Doing wrong things in life, comes with consequences is the lesson, I think

....and learning consequences is important, rather than learning a slap...if you do wrong in my eyes, I will hit you...that’s how big I am and how small you are, is not any definition of a lesson that will positively benefit the character of a child in any way...

They'll go through much, much more stress and trauma in their lives than getting a tanned arse for misbehaving.

Parenting is simple...


Just be as big a kid as they are..they will always look up to you..

Until they are bigger than you, but the jobs already been done by then...let them moan about not having any discipline in thier lIves when they were younger as they explain away thier flaws in thier 40s..

You can discipline kids without hitting them. Many perfectly rounded adults were not hit as children.

somethings always rubbed me the wrong way about using violence to discipline children

And many were..maybe parents should be allowed to judge how thier own kids would react to certain disciplines or what thier own kid needs for discipline.

Hitting kids is so primitive. Whenever I experienced it or witnessed it, it was always because the parent was angry or didn't know what else to do. Very sad.

Many things are
including the Spanish Bull race through Streets,

Yeah, I don't think that should be done either. I've never supported anything like that though. I stand by my opinion that physically hurting children as a form of punishment is oafish.

I agree, I constantly see this suggestion that smacking can be done in a level-headed, deliberate way without anger as a fully considered part of parenting... and yet, I have literally NEVER seen a parent hit a child when it wasn't simply a case of them getting angry and losing control. I think "calm smacking" is a lie and an excuse.

Wasn't that how it used to be done..the father would put the naughty child over his knee when he came home from work...I think I was parented by a man who experienced that...it made him chase me from the living room up and half way up the stairs to smack my bare legs a good few times in a total rage ...that made me the father I am...I think my grandkids upbringing will be peaceful.

"Calm smacking" seems even weirder [emoji23]

Not this nazis were socialists rollocks again?... oh my days :joker:

Yup, like brexit :laugh:

Ofgs.:sleep:

Scotland is an interesting beast. They're the first place I am aware of that made it illegal for dog-owners to teach their dogs the Nazi salute. Very odd.

America is riddled with Scots .has been since the signing...how many of them were scottish again?

15 or something out of 49..

They were overwhelmingly of English descent. Interesting fact, during the American War for Independence, Americans were pretty divided (about 1/3 were for Leave, 1/5 were for Remain, and the rest wanted another referendum :hehe:). Scots were overwhelmingly loyal to the British crown.

https://www.electricscotland.com/his...0of%20Scotland.



As a scot, I will take all that as riddled.

I like Scotland but the relationship between Scotland and America during the War for American Independence was an odd one. Scottish tended to be loyalists to British crown. That's an interesting article you have given me. Here's an interesting one I'll share with you:

https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/10...an-revolution/