1,033
Current Covid 19 Deaths in relaxed Sweden.

What’s the trend though .. these individual figures are just meaningless tbh


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A report
on CNN HD at 3:35PM
said half of killed were in homes of the Elderly.

W.H.O.
said in 2 or 3 weeks time it could be far worse.

Sweden now at 1,203 Deaths from Covid 19

Is that a positive or a negative ?


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Is death ever seen as a positive?

Relatively speaking ..


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Define relative.

“ considered in relation or in proportion to something else “

Google is your friend :)


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Its a much more severe death toll than their neighbours Norway who locked down early

I think its definitely clear that lockdown do save lives in the short term, it might be years before we know what the best approach was in the long run though

Sweden's differing, more relaxed response to coronavirus
 

Fair comments

Thanks for the Twitter link as well !


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In terms of these graphs, it's worth remembering that Sweden does have roughly double the population of its Scandinavian neighbours. It is still a steeper death toll even with adjusted figures, but you can't do a flat comparison between, say, Norway (5.3 million) and Sweden (10.2 million). You would expect Sweden's figures to be double.

According to that the curve is flattening everywhere...is this purely due to lockdown?

That graph uses a non-linear x-axis so the illustration is unclear.

A LOT of the newspapers use these for Covid stuff and I honestly think it's very unhelpful because most readers aren't going to know what they're looking at.

In basic terms, the "blocks" on the vertical axis are not regular intervals. The first block represents 10 people, the second block represents 90 people, the third block represents 900 people... Thus the line will look exponentially less steep in third section than in the second even if the number is actually higher, creating the illusion of "slowing" or "flattening".

Look for the ones where it is actually flat or where it has started to drop back down. Otherwise, zoom in and look ONLY at the third block on the vertical axis to assess the curve.

People are trying to draw simple conclusions from 1 piece of data and that is absurdly wrong. The factors that we know about are age, health, population density, transportation facilities and weather. There are probably a dozen more all interacting with each other to produce an outcome. So while it might be nice to say that something appears to be working to help, we have no real idea until we know more, and we model it properly. It's only a couple of steps off total speculation at the moment

Belgium are following Denmark in opening up more shops and facilities DESPITE having horrendous stats for deaths and infection increases.. whilst Denmark’s stats are marvellous in comparison.


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There is talk of opening schools here in May in non hot spot areas

Headmasters union want to open for a couple of weeks before summer if possible, because transitioning into new classes after summer will be very difficult without any prep before summer.

I think it largely depends on the numbers, though.

We're in the "lucky" position of having one kid who is well ahead of her year level in all areas, and another in special provision where targets are individual anyway so there are no arbitrary levels. This whole situation is an absolute disaster for kids in mainstream education who were at the expected level, or slightly behind. Some kids will be playing catchup for years to come and it'll have a dramatic impact on the outcome of their education overall.

Schools are doing their best with online resources etc. but there comes a point where we have to conceded that it's not the same at all.

What country ?


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Cherie is a dirty immigrant worker living in the UK, taking our jobs and further burdening our fragile pensions system. Makes me sick. This isn't what we Brexitted for is it? For Cherie to drain our resources and take up space in the NHS.

[edit] Sadly because of the world we live in, I feel like I need to clarify that this is said in jest :worry:

UK

:omgno: I ain't moving ...yet.. although I think this might precipitate our planned exodus from the big Smoke :laugh:

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So where have you heard May mentioned in regards to schools !?

Any links ?


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"Cherie is a dirty immigrant worker living in the UK,"

Sure TS
but she is Quality Worker
we need them in England


And That Lady has ever right to Free NHS

There was an scientific study recently which said that closing schools, only had a minimal impact on the spread of the virus - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52180783

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...us-news-latest

and it was reported across a lot of media a few days ago

The whole point of the lockdown was to defer the peak so that the NHS got over the months of the year when they would be struggling with other viral illnesses like seasonal flu, we cant stay closed for business until a vaccine is found