Shh, don't apply logic to the 'PC gone mad!' brigade.

How is this a defence?

They INTENDED it to be offensive? Really helps it now.

This is NOT censorship ffs. It's a production company deciding what they do and do not want to distribute, which is THEIR freedom. The material is NOT banned.

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Yes, I know. The depiction of slavery itself is not grounds for it being removed. Contextually, it is correct. It is the PORTRAYAL of it, glamourising and using stereotypes.

Hence why HBO Max said when it returns they hope they can have more balanced material alongside it that depict the REALITY of slavery that isn't romanticised in a Hollywood epic.

I think the question you all need to ask yourselves is.."can intentional blackfacing be seen as funny"

It's a bit like Karen-like to want everything banned that makes one choose to feel "offended" :laugh:

don't get me wrong, when i say this

fiction and reality are 2 different things so yes i can understand the PC world is bothering some people


so yeah reality shows like Cops ok fair to ban that


but yeah i guess it's more the ''based upon real life'' term


overall i find this a very difficult, complicated matter

I thought that all went away with the Black and White Minstrels .. Incidentally I wonder why they didn’t just use black singers ??


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Because that wasn't the point, they were literally mocking black stereotypes rather than trying to emulate real black people.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/03/95/58/0...nday-night.jpg

People are now saying the movie 'White Chicks' should be pulled,have you seen it ? I haven't ,but apparently there are two black guys whited up as white women :laugh: also people saying the Pyramids need to come down now as they were built by slaves, what are your thoughts on that ? are we going too far /

White chicks is hilarious

Of course Oliver, how stupid of me to forget.

White Chicks is great. I'm not gonna play the "whatabout" game, if people find White Chicks offensive they're free to petition whatever platforms it's on, and ask them to remove it.

The answer they should get is the same answer the places hosting the other comedies in question should have given - get a grip and watch something else.

Let's start a list of things we can't laugh about. We can have people with no sense of humour police it, and tell us what we should and shouldn't find insulting.

You’ll probably find that the only people suggesting those things are people trying to mock and belittle the feelings of black people

And thereby really upsetting all you woke white people.

Who’s upset and who’s woke?

Did... did you watch the office? Have you heard Ricky Gervais talk about the office? You know what it's about, right, and are just being deliberately obtuse?

In The Office - the entire POINT of The Office - is that Brent isn't telling jokes that are funny ... Brent is the joke. And even then it's not intended that he's a joke to be laughed at - he's a joke to be pitied, because he does these things to try to impress people and make people like him... he tries to be "a friendly funny guy" because he's sad and lonely. But people don't think he's funny. His jokes are completely misjudged and fall flat. They think he's awkward and sexist/racist/whatever. That's literally the whole show.

i get it, sarcasm from you :laugh:

but anyway it goes a bit too far now, comedies for example are meant for light entertainment purposes, not to be taken serious

the only ones going too far for me personally are some stand up comedians but then again i never have been a huge fan of stand up comedy with all honesty

Alf Garnet was also the joke. But people didn't get that and still don't.

To be fair, the part when the black guy didn't care about Brent's "joke" and it turned out the complaint came from a stuckup white woman was somewhat prophetic :laugh: From what I've seen at least it's usually middle-class white folks who jump on the banned-wagon for things they think are offensive, while the "targets" just ignore it :shrug:

Hmm. There's a difference between what you should and shouldn't find funny or insulting, and the ability to appreciate that what other people find insulting, and where the line is, in different social situations.

I think there's stuff in Little Britain that can pass in a stand-up comedy but not in a mainstream TV show. And lots of things in stand-up that just can't and shouldn't be in mainstream (essentially) "family telly".

Me and my wife say and laugh about things at home that we would not in public. Me and my friends say things in WhatsApp groups that we would never say on a public forum or open social media.

No one is telling you what you're privately allowed to find funny or what you "should" find insulting. You can disagree with someone and still have consideration for them.

It's like that part in Fawlty Towers that is sometimes trimmed out.

The Major was (sort of) discussing the difference between N-words and "w*gs" (I've only ever head that word on Fawlty Towers, not counting Gollywog dolls,so I guess it's outdated?) and even the bigoted Basil was trying to change the subject to shut him up :laugh

Because the targets have gotten used to it and don't have the level of privilege required to feel like they can openly and loudly complain about it whilst remaining firmly "in the right". White people complain louder because they feel like their complaints will be taken seriously. One of the great ironies of the nuance of privilege.

Then white people should be insulted more :laugh: Everyone is a fair target, leave the old things up and make new things!