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bots 26-09-2020 01:42 PM

Cases are re-opened all the time, the fact that there may not have been the evidence available at the time for an indictment, doesn't mean that there can't be in the future. It was not a trial

Crimson Dynamo 26-09-2020 01:49 PM

and if the officer had been found guilty of murder would anyone be making these points?

i suspect not

(just my opinion of course)

Kizzy 26-09-2020 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10921910)
and if the officer had been found guilty of murder would anyone be making these points?

i suspect not

(just my opinion of course)

Well no because there would have been some justice served.

Nobody should be allowed to break into a perfectly innocent persons home and shoot them in their bed, not even an on duty police officer... especially not an officer, as they are more aware than most of the rule of law.

Crimson Dynamo 26-09-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 10921936)
well no because there would have been some justice served.

Nobody should be allowed to break into a perfectly innocent persons home and shoot them in their bed, not even an on duty police officer... Especially not an officer, as they are more aware than most of the rule of law.

they had a search warrant issued by a judge

arista 26-09-2020 07:56 PM

Tonight it was not on her neck


She is a Trouble maker

user104658 26-09-2020 08:00 PM

Insufficient evidence of guilt =/= evidence of innocence. I don't know what people find so hard to understand about that, it's a pretty simple piece of the legal puzzle.

In all honesty in this case I think the evidence points to manslaughter through extreme recklessness and professional negligence but honestly, when we're talking about heavily armed and supposedly trained individuals, I actually find that much ****ing scarier than an intentional killing. "It's not out fault! We didn't MEAN to shoot an innocent woman, we just blunder around with guns blazing and sometimes random people get hit by the bullets OK??"

That kind of negligence leading to a death is EASILY justification for a sentence as harsh as murder, in my opinion.

Crimson Dynamo 26-09-2020 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10922207)
Insufficient evidence of guilt =/= evidence of innocence. I don't know what people find so hard to understand about that, it's a pretty simple piece of the legal puzzle.

In all honesty in this case I think the evidence points to manslaughter through extreme recklessness and professional negligence but honestly, when we're talking about heavily armed and supposedly trained individuals, I actually find that much ****ing scarier than an intentional killing. "It's not out fault! We didn't MEAN to shoot an innocent woman, we just blunder around with guns blazing and sometimes random people get hit by the bullets OK??"

That kind of negligence leading to a death is EASILY justification for a sentence as harsh as murder, in my opinion.

How much of the trial evidence did you read?

Cherie 26-09-2020 10:05 PM

Amanda had her breasts out tonight so Ofcom will be busy tomorrow

AnnieK 26-09-2020 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10922271)
Amanda had her breasts out tonight so Ofcom will be busy tomorrow

The tape on that dress to hold it where it should be looked painful

Cherie 26-09-2020 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10922274)
The tape on that dress to hold it where it should be looked painful

It looked really uncomfortable, don’t know why she puts herself through that

Nicky91 27-09-2020 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10922271)
Amanda had her breasts out tonight so Ofcom will be busy tomorrow

if you complain about a silly necklace, you can also validly complain about that yes

there is children watching this show

Oliver_W 27-09-2020 08:27 AM

It does sound more like manslaughter, because they were returning fire after Taylor's boyfriend shot at them, as he thought they were intruders. But they fired blind, as she was standing behind a covered patio thing, which is why she was hit.

bots 27-09-2020 09:33 AM

murder has to be intentional, and that wasn't. George Floyd was murder to my mind

Cherie 27-09-2020 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10922376)
It does sound more like manslaughter, because they were returning fire after Taylor's boyfriend shot at them, as he thought they were intruders. But they fired blind, as she was standing behind a covered patio thing, which is why she was hit.

I don’t think Alesha’s necklace shot anyone

bots 27-09-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10922405)
I don’t think Alesha’s necklace shot anyone

it shot everyone with a bolt of self righteousness :laugh:

Liam- 27-09-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10922404)
murder has to be intentional, and that wasn't. George Floyd was murder to my mind

Well leaving someone to bleed out for 20 minutes without calling for medical help can be classified as murder

Cherie 27-09-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10922408)
it shot everyone with a bolt of self righteousness :laugh:

:laugh:

bots 27-09-2020 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10922409)
Well leaving someone to bleed out for 20 minutes without calling for medical help can be classified as murder

no it cant, you are making it up as you go along. The problem was with the no knock warrant, which has now been withdrawn in that state

Nicky91 27-09-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10922404)
murder has to be intentional, and that wasn't. George Floyd was murder to my mind

yes i also believe George Floyd death was a murder

i mean the man shouted i can't breathe 20 times, the man was apprehended by that cop and he kept his knee on top of him

Breonna, well i am gonna be controversial here, umm i think her boyfriend can be blamed for her death, fatally endangering her by being possession of a weapon, being on record with law enforcement

the cop pulled the trigger, but his criminal past is what led the police to that house

Liam- 27-09-2020 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10922411)
no it cant, you are making it up as you go along. The problem was with the no knock warrant, which has now been withdrawn in that state

Well, yes, technically, I’m the purest sense of the word, you’re right, it wouldn’t be ‘murder’, but the person who refuses to help a clearly dying person could be held responsible for their eventual death, especially if said person is in a position of obligation to save a persons life

Liam- 27-09-2020 09:46 AM

Also the problem was that they shouldn’t have had a warrant anyway, because the person they were looking for was already in custody and didn’t even live at her address.

Oliver_W 27-09-2020 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 10922415)
Also the problem was that they shouldn’t have had a warrant anyway, because the person they were looking for was already in custody and didn’t even live at her address.

She was thought to have been involved though, her address was one of the places the drugs were being sent to.

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10922411)
no it cant, you are making it up as you go along.

Hm, while it's obvious they didn't mean to shoot her (they didn't know she was standing there, they were firing back at her boyfriend) leaving her to bleed out is pretty bad. Even that on its own could (should) be called manslaughter, even if her boyfriend shot her.

Kizzy 27-09-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 10922411)
no it cant, you are making it up as you go along. The problem was with the no knock warrant, which has now been withdrawn in that state

Now you are making I things up..warrants don't kill people.
If a trigger happy officer is twitchy when lone females are asleep what are they going to be like when they're awake?

Oliver_W 27-09-2020 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10922429)
Now you are making I things up..warrants don't kill people.
If a trigger happy officer is twitchy when lone females are asleep what are they going to be like when they're awake?

She was awake, she was standing in the hallway.

Tom4784 27-09-2020 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10922376)
It does sound more like manslaughter, because they were returning fire after Taylor's boyfriend shot at them, as he thought they were intruders. But they fired blind, as she was standing behind a covered patio thing, which is why she was hit.

That makes it sound like the police were defending themselves although they intruded on someone's property without announcing themselves, leading to one of the owners of that property defending themselves against intruders. What a load of ****ing ****.

The police invaded someone's house, they shot it up and they murdered an innocent woman with a bright future and blamed it on the boyfriend who was just defending his property, if he was white, he would be the ****ing darling of the Right Wing for doing so.


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