everybodies circumstances will be different, but there wont be anyone comfortable that relies on a minimum wage whereas its possible to be comfortable earning more than that. It's going to be hard for those affected, i just hope they get it back under control quickly

The Bills just wouldn't get paid, they would be the first to go. It's only me so I wouldn't give 2 ****s about them.

Well I hope you're right, I am barely managing on 80% of my wage as it stands now and I'm not anywhere close to a min wage earner. People live to their means and when those means are taken away life gets tough. I am lucky that I have savings because my bills haven't dropped, if anything I'm spending more keeping this kid of mine fed and warm whilst isolating from school...

An awful lot of families are facing a grim winter...not just here.

"Just you lot stay up there licking windows and us sensible lot down here will keep you all ticking along like 1980s dole wallers"

"....that's what I want to say to every idiot that's helped spread corona up in Manchester, liverpool etc..cause they are great cities with some amazing people.

Unfortunately, there are some selfish idiots as well that just cant listen..And I seriously doubt those already selfish idiots will listen now

I'm alright jack...

How long have you been on 80 percent? If I may ask.

I'm not though.:nono:

I have been furloughed since 1st April. My company gave us 100% for the first 2 months but then we dropped to 80.

But there are selfish idiots everywhere Parmy. Its not exclusive to Liverpool and Manchester. :shrug:

Haha! Hark at you Mr Garnett...brought it on themselves they did, ficcy norvern baaaaarstards

Fgs a lot of the SE is in Tier 2, the simple fact is it started in London so effectively the North had two weeks grace before it hit, and in some places up there despite lockdown and partial lock down the numbers never fell, something is not right, there are plenty flouting the guidelines down here as well just not as many as up there and as Bots has alluded to the way of life is more antisocial..no one calls on spec to your home in London :laugh:we make arrangements :hehe:

Jesus you are not even in a Manchester what are you so hot under the collar about

Parm is Scottish, can’t get more Northern UK than that :pipe:

Was there any glimmer of a return to work Annie?

We have a meeting on Thursday....hopefully regarding at least a partial return. I NEED to work now, I am literally going mad :laugh:

Oh that’s great news, :fc:

I can see why you would now begin to feel the difference now annie, with heating expenses going up but I'm sure companies wont put the squeeze on families suffering. I've just of the phone to my sister who has been writing a paper for her company regarding this very issue and her company have started wheeling out aid plans for people having to pay for thier services...

Its still going to be ****ty winter though.

3.2 miles over the border...:wavey:

If it was the old days I could swim into england.

That's obvious katey...

And there are so many ifs and buts or why and hows certain areas and cities are suffering more than others.

I'm loving the us and them aspect... it fell across the country cherie just as they said it would. And now we're seeing a second wave just as they said we would, which will be country wide. Whether you're accepting callers or not, it's coming.

Leeds isn't a million miles away, we'll be tier 3 by Halloween.

Maybe he's been deprogrammed. ..like you.

please don't get personal, you are not the only one who can hit the report button, keep to the rules...lots of rules to follow now innit, do keep up

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