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So there's this other side of the discussion that a few of you say exists, and yet none of you will present it for fear of having it scrutinised? Just doesn't really make a lot of sense. If you look at the Keir Starmer thread, you'll see me criticising him continually. |
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If no one is willing to present this other side then it probably doesn't exist. If it does, share it with the class.
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You ask why a government would alienate their voters, but they happily destroyed communities with Austerity for a decade and still won this past election, so voters are generally like goldfish when it comes to holding governments to account. |
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Oh please, it's not a tax problem. That's an excuse and nothing more and one that wouldn't work had this been a labour government that ruled against this. The tories will give away millions in government contracts to tory backers but spending what would be a trifling amount in comparison to feed children is too much?
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I don't think kids are starving because their parents are too busy buying ipads, Kazanne... I love how economic woes are blamed on the most vulnerable and not the tories in charge, makes so much sense.
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Stop throwing your toys out of the pram, this is a discussion. |
those on minimum wage get a top up to help with things. If a parent chooses to prioritise other things to feeding their children then there is a problem.
Splitting out specific items that can be allocated to children etc becomes a bureaucratic nightmare to administer, something that the labour party love to do and the tories don't. |
I wondered how long it would take to get to the ‘they’ve got iPhones and sky!!’ portion of the poor bashing
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The whole idea was to feed kids who would normally receive free school meals, so I'm not sure there is a difference between those already receiving free meals, and those that "genuinely need it", because if they're already receiving free meals, then they already genuinely need it. I mean, we've seen with universal credit that people have and are starving to death - the evidence is out there. Boris Johnson has repeatedly called those on benefits, "scroungers" and "a waste of taxpayer money". So I'm sorry, we have the evidence of Johnsons own words. The tories are handing out PPE contracts to their friends/donors, worth billions. These contracts aren't being tendered out so competition drives prices lower and finds the best suited companies to manage it, they're just given out like presents. I think a lot of anger is directed and the lack of care for taxpayer money when it's to see their donors right, but when the actual tax payers need something, then suddenly they remember that "magic money trees" don't exist. |
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Keeping food on the table is a costly thing, especially in a system rigged against the poor like ours is. To assume that people are in the positions they are because of their own mistakes is just ignorant. Things are more complicated then 'Oh, they obviously spend their money on material goods so it's obviously their fault they can't feed their children.' |
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Everyone working for an employer is PAYE so your tax is proportional to your income. Essentially all government money is public money, and if my monthly income tax were to be used to help underprivileged children in this country I would be immensely proud. |
I don’t think the way it has been done up to now is the answer, vouchers are too easily spent on nutrition poor food, they could give the cash to a meals on wheels type business who can deliver the meals chosen by the child or the parent at the beginning of each holiday week
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also what puzzles me for a long time too, how come if you are poor, you can't seem to afford food on the table, but many poor all have their own iPhones :skull:
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We've been under tory rule for well over a decade now, you'd think the public would have realised that things have only gotten worse under tory rule, not better but that would be giving them too much credit. |
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