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Billy 30-06-2007 06:36 PM

whats that got to with anything, just cos someone doesnt get along with tjhe Benoits dont mean there gonna kill them. Anyway, with Benoits strength he would have been able to protect them

Sarah. 30-06-2007 06:44 PM

Maybe so but Sullivan would have had easy access to their house because he knew them, Benoit may not have been there, if he was he may have been worried for the safety of his family.
There are so many possibilities like I keep saying.

Dan_ 30-06-2007 06:51 PM

Kevin Sullivan was also a wrestler, he was the one that pretty much brought Nancy into the wrestling business, I've already read a blog by someone who outlined why they believe why he could have done it but I really don't know about that, from what the police of said it does look fairly conclusive but we shall see.

I am still trying to get my head around this whole thing.Benoit was always a favourite wrestler of mine and that was over a long period of time and I always saw him as just a respectful family man as did all of his co-workers who must be totally bewildered by the whole thing.The full story behind it will most likely never be known but it is still so hard to come to terms with.

Sarah. 30-06-2007 07:12 PM

Didn't Sullivan do a storyline with Nancy and Chris and they fell in love after it .. or am i making it up? I mean I'd be pretty pissed at someone if they stole my husband you know.. but it was 10 years ago, however he is a Satanist.. he's evvvil probably .

It is a very hard thing to overcome and understand. Don't think it will happen in the near future for me. Until the whole results come out thats when I'll try to understand everything properly. I really can't get round the fact he's gone and I never got the pleasure to watch him live or meet him. It was always something I really wanted to do. :bawling:

Dan_ 30-06-2007 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by mrs_rko
Didn't Sullivan do a storyline with Nancy and Chris and they fell in love after it .. or am i making it up? I mean I'd be pretty p****d at someone if they stole my husband you know.. but it was 10 years ago, however he is a Satanist.. he's evvvil probably .

It is a very hard thing to overcome and understand. Don't think it will happen in the near future for me. Until the whole results come out thats when I'll try to understand everything properly. I really can't get round the fact he's gone and I never got the pleasure to watch him live or meet him. It was always something I really wanted to do. :bawling:
Yeah he was the booker back in WCW back then and it ended up evolving in real life too.I saw an article done by Sullivan a couple days back and he seemed far to at ease over Nancy leaving him.I found it strange to be honest.

The whole thing is just so random and odd that it's hard to comprehend.

Amy21 30-06-2007 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by Dan_

Just terrible, I'm in a state of shock right now.

RIP Chris and family :bawling:.
Save your tears Dan_ Chris murdered his wife and son. He is a murdering scum bag who doesnt deserve any sympathey at all. I cant believe he did this and now he wont get punished for his crime :mad:. I only feel sorry for his wife, son and their familes and friends. I cant imagine what there going through right now.

Sarah. 30-06-2007 07:49 PM

You say that like it's the truth and you know that for a fact, I'm pretty sure the investigation is still ongoing.

Amy21 30-06-2007 08:12 PM

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Originally posted by mrs_rko
You say that like it's the truth and you know that for a fact, I'm pretty sure the investigation is still ongoing.
I know it as I have read true facts in places. Nancy was tied up by her hands and feet in one room with blood under her head so obviously there was some sort of struggle and Chris killed her. She not going to tie herself up is she :rolleyes:. Daniel was in his bedroom in his bed and apprentely Chris put a choke hold on him to kill. And then Chris goes and kills himself in his weight room with a weight lifting machine. Now to me nobody could of gotten someone as strong as Chris to sit on a weight lifting machine to hang himself to kill him. He had to of done that himself. And there are other things that have come out like there was no forced entry to the house so nobody broke in. And it was said there was no outsiders to be involved with how they did the investigation. The dogs had been let outside with the back gate open as Chris sent text messages to Chavo saying that. Also he sent text messages with his house address on. And these messages were sent from Chris phone so it cant of been anyone else plus how would anyone else know Chavo phone number. It wouldnt make any sense. Then theres Chris calling to say he has a "family emergency" but no other details but really is he killing his family then himself. He said he would be there for the house show but he didnt go. Then Vengance came but he didnt show up for that either. So all the evidence is there and to me and anyone else it says it clearly that Chris killed his family and then himself. If someone had really done this then dont you think someone would of seen a person around the house running away. But nothing was seen so thats another thing thats points out that it has to be Chris. Believe what you want but I know Chris had to of done it. Theres no way Nancy or Daniel could of done something like this. Chris was obiously not right in the head and someone should of found this out and got him help and then his poor family wouldnt of been killed.

Sarah. 30-06-2007 08:34 PM

What from newspapers? Yes but it could have easily been somone who knew the Benoits.. that would have granted them access to the house easily WITHOUT forced entry, hence no proof. Chris did not put a choke hold on him. It's been said bibles were left at the side of the bodies, Chris doesn't believe in religion so why would he do it? I do believe Chris killed himself but I'm still not convinced he killed his family. Chris maybe did send these texts to alert someone what had happened, he wouldn't have sent them really if he knew he was going to get such bad publicity for all of this. No suicide note, surely he would have left one at least explaining to his other relatives and fans what had happened so we wouldn't be talking about it right now. That makes me believe even more he could have been forced into this. You never know. Erm, maybe the number was stored in his phone book??? Apparently this family emergency was that his family had been poisoned and were coughing up blood. I don't think anyone would take notice of someone walking down their street, if it was Sullivan, they could have even thought he was visiting, who knows. Don't think I'm in denial, i'm speculating. Police need to widen their investigation.

Sunny_01 30-06-2007 09:15 PM

I understand their is what appears to be over whelming evidence that suggests Chris killed his family but I still ask what state of mind must he have been in.

My friend certainly wasnt evil when she killed her son and herself, she was depressed, struggling to cope with a handicapped child and feeling isolated as it was for her to deal with! She certainly wasnt a monster, or evil or anything near to that. She was un fact a loving mum who couldnt live with her son and certainly couldnt live without him.

What happened to her was a tragedy and I feel it could be similar with Benoit! his son was handicapped, he was having marriage problems, and could well have been terribly depressed.

None of what I have said excuses it but could explain it if that makes sense.

Sarah. 30-06-2007 09:22 PM

there you go, is everybody happy now?

Dave confirmed he used a form of the Crippler Crossface on Daniel. This is interesting since Bryan was adamant that the story was bullshit. Apparently investigators found marks on the boys arm and neck that they didn't understand and upon watching a tape of a Benoit match and seeing the move it made sense. They just said it was a "choke" as to not further sensationalize an already sensationalized story.

-Dave said Bryan Alvarez was closer to Benoit (he found his writing hilarious) then he was and that Dave hardly ever talked to Chris (while Bryan seemed to indicate semi regular contact).

-Benoit got a prescription for the anti-depressant Xanax at the doctor's visit on Friday.

-Benoit started going downhill after Eddy died because he lost the one guy who he could confide in and shared his problems with. Apparently close friends always knew Benoit had the same problems as Eddy (pills, etc.) and suggested Benoit seriously needed to see a therapist but no one suggested it since he wasn't the type to be open to that sort of thing.

-Apparently the death of Johnny Grunge hit Benoit even harder then Eddy since they were neighbors and him and Nancy fighting was somewhat common and he'd be the one to come over and defuse situations and make Chris laugh. After he died, Chris didn't have that buffer when things got out of control.

-Chris and Nancy had recently separated for a period of time, and Dave received a change of address form for an apartment different then their house (I believe Bryan mentioned he got a different address too).

-Chris recently opened up a new life insurance claim naming his ex-wife and his older 2 kids as the beneficiaries and refused to include Nancy or Daniel.

-When there were rumors of him leaving for TNA, Dave asked him about it and Chris was paranoid thinking Dave had inside info that WWE was going to release him. He apparently may have thought ECW was a demotion and the next step would be out the door. He was reportedly obsessed with establishing himself at the HHH/HBK level. He had grown increasingly paranoid that someone was out to get him and didn't let Nancy leave the house at night or Daniel to play outside and would take different routes from the airport home each time in case he was being followed.

-Nancy confided to a friend in wrestling days before the murders that she feared for her life and the friend told her to go take Daniel to her parents place in Florida (as she had done before when Chris became violent) but she didn't this time. Apparently she had a lockbox at the bank with notes indicating if something happened to her, it was Chris.

-Theory is that she told him she was leaving him for good and taking Daniel and that's when he snapped on her. Loved his son and when she filed for divorce all he wanted was joint custody. Theory is he killed Daniel because in his mind he couldn't bare to let him be alone without his parents and in his condition so it was a "mercy killing".

-Someone in WWE informed Dave before the RAW show that Chris had killed them, but others in the company were unaware but at least someone high up knew before the tribute show was put on the air.

Nancy visited Dr. Astin on Thursday asking questions about how she could raise Daniel on her own.

-Dave gave a description of the common profile of men who kill their whole families and it was eerily similar to Benoit (hard working, driven, experienced a loss, a few friends but no real support system, anxiety, etc."

-Said Chris was constantly anxious about something. When he was at home he was worried about wrestling, when wrestling he was worried about his family.

-How's this for eerie. When Vince called all the guys in the ring before RAW to give the news, the stage had been decorated with a casket, reefs, candles with Vince's picture, etc. like a funeral. Talent was told to bring dark suits like a funeral to the taping. I'm sure that was a blast. Vince apparently handled it really well, told anyone who wanted to go home would not be disciplined but guys were basket cases and trying to think of some rationalization (carbon monoxide, etc.)

-Regal was a neighbor of Benoit's and Grunge and would have know about the home troubles so that sheds some light on his "tribute".

-Dave says he can't write a proper obit/career retrospect and doesn't know if he ever will.


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Sarah. 01-07-2007 12:22 PM

I still support the man even now it's been said what he did. Depression is a very horrible thing and i think he suffered from it taking 4 months off last year.

Lauren 01-07-2007 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by mrs_rko
there you go, is everybody happy now?
No-one is happy when a child and his mother has been killed by someone they love.

Sarah. 01-07-2007 12:26 PM

I never said thats what you were happy about. Probably the fact that you were right and I wasn't.

Lauren 01-07-2007 01:27 PM

I know you didn't mean that, I didn't mean it to sound like I was snapping at you, sorry. I just meant I'm not happy even if I was right, it would be so much better if they were all alive and happy again.

Dan_ 01-07-2007 02:02 PM

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NEWS FROM THE WRESTLING-ONLINE NEWSWIRE
Web version at -[http://www.wrestling-online.com/news]-

> CHRIS BENOIT'S EX WIFE GIVES COMMENTS ON TRAGEDY
- Martina Benoit, the ex wife of former World champion of Chris Benoit gave
some comments to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper saying that her
ex husband was the "most loving person anyone could imagine." Telling the
newspaper that she "loves him", Martina Benoit called the allegations of the
killings "crap" before hanging up and ending the call. The two have two
other children from their previous marriage. She lives in Ardrossan,
Alberta, Canada with their two kids.

> DEA RAID DOCTOR'S OFFICE AGAIN IN CONNECTION WITH BENOIT'S MURDERS
- Chris Benoit's personal physician seems that he has gone missing in action
as the DEA did a second raid in his offices in Georgia and also raided his
mother's home, who also was not there. This is now an official DEA
investigation which spells trouble for the doc as they will get information
on those other personalities who he prescribed steroids in the past. Benoit
visited Dr. Phil Astin on Friday of last week, just hours before he murdered
his wife Nancy.

> POLICE SEIZE COMPUTER OF WIKIPEDIA USER WHO SUBMITTED BENOIT DEATH INFO
- In another twist in the Wikipedia posting saga, authorities managed to
locate the person who posted the entry on Wikipedia regarding Nancy Benoit's
death hours before Georgia police even knew and took away the computer used
to make the posting. While the anonymous user - who lives in Stamford, CT.,
- said it was just a coincidence and posted the information without credible
sources, police are going to look deeper into the story as they feel the
person could be hiding something and his computer might contain important
evidence. The person who made the posting apologized yesterday and his
unedited letter appeared yesterday on Wikinews.org.

> NANCY BENOIT'S PARENTS SPEAK
- For the first time since the tragedy, the parents of Nancy Benoit, Paul
and Maureen Toffoloni, released a statement through their attorney to
ESPN.COM. "We're trying to stay out of their way right now," their attorney
said. "In the meantime, Maureen and Paul and Sandra (Nancy's sister) have
asked me to ask members of the media and public to remember that this is an
investigation of the death of their daughter and only grandchild. And even
though Chris and Nancy led public lives, the family, specifically Daniel,
did not lead a public life." Nancy's parents said that they often baby-sit
seven year old Daniel but never noticed any medical issues with him. "There
has been a lot of speculation and rumor in the media that is doing nothing
to advance the investigation and doing everything to cause the Toffolonis
intense pain," the statement said.

Sarah. 01-07-2007 03:20 PM

Ok, just most people I know would probably just laugh about it, knowing they were right anyway.

Dan_ 03-07-2007 02:22 PM

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The chiseled professional wrestler suspected of last week's murder-suicide was prescribed a 10-month supply of steroids at least every four weeks, according to a federal indictment Monday of his Carrollton doctor.

Though he wasn't charged with putting steroids into the hands of wrestler Chris Benoit, Astin was indicted on seven counts of distributing excessive amounts of pain and anxiety medicine and an amphetamine to two people in Carrollton. The recipients were not identified beyond their initials, M.J. and O.G.

Over two years, Nahmias said the doctor prescribed more than 1 million doses of drugs such as steroids, painkillers and anxiety medicine. Many of the prescriptions were undated, a violation of federal law.

Astin pleaded not guilty. He faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison on each count.

If he makes his $125,000 bond, Astin will be confined to his home and will be required to wear an electronic monitor.

The investigation of the Benoit family deaths led to the federal charges. Police say the wrestling star killed his wife, his 7-year-old son and himself on the weekend of June 24 at their Fayette County home.

Injectable steroids were found at the crime scene. Nahmias said Astin was indicted quickly so pharmacists will stop filling his prescriptions.

Last week, Astin's office and home in Carrollton were raided by the Drug Enforcement Administration and local investigators.

Law enforcement was aware of Astin even before the Benoit deaths, the federal government said.

"Dr. Astin has been the subject of concern for excessive and/or suspicious prescribing activity by the Carrollton, Georgia [State] Police Department and local area pharmacies," the federal search warrant says.

The search warrant says Astin prescribed an excessive amount of steroids to Benoit.

"Dr. Astin has been identified as prescribing, on average, a 10-month supply of anabolic steroids to Mr. Benoit every three to four weeks from May 4, 2006 through May 9, 2007," the warrant says. The information was gleaned through prescription records from Jones Pharmacy in Fayetteville.

Steroids can help athletes improve their performance. But they can also trigger violent outbursts known as "'roid rage."

"Dr. Astin allegedy prescribed such drugs like candy, with little regard for appropriate medical practice or the recipients' health," Nahmias said. Benoit's name also surfaced in a Drug Enforcement Administration investigation of a weight-loss company the feds are now prosecuting.

"In a DEA investigation of Rx Weight Loss ... Mr. Benoit was previously identified as an excessive purchaser of injectable steroids," the search warrant says.

The indictment says Astin prescribed unusually large amounts of Percocet, Vicoprofen, Xanax and Lorcet between April 2004 and September 2005 in Carrollton. The drugs are used in the treatment of pain or anxiety.

Many of Astin's friends, patients and relatives showed up for the hearing, and some had to stand outside the small courtroom.

"We love you Doc Astin," a woman cried as Astin was led away in shackles.

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballarde said Monday he has no plans to file criminal charges against anyone in the case.

Astin prescribed testosterone for Benoit, a longtime friend, in the past but has not said what, if any, medications he prescribed when Benoit visited his office June 22, the start of the weekend when the killings occurred.

Toxicology tests on Benoit's body have not been completed, Ballard said.
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metr...703benoit.html

Sarah. 03-07-2007 05:13 PM

I think he probably prescribed them due to depression also. He became depressed after Eddie's death I think. Pain too, and how do people who believe the wrestlers dont get hurt at all explain this?:rolleyes:

Should'nt have prescribed them, at least Benoits not ALL to blame, the doctor should NOT have prescribed that many for him, surely he has some sense in doing that?

Dan_ 17-07-2007 07:04 PM

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DECATUR, Ga. -- The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said Tuesday that steroids and other drugs were found in the body of former pro wrestler Chris Benoit, and prescription drugs were also found in the bodies of his wife and son.

Also found in Benoit were the drugs Xanax and hydrocodone, according to a GBI statement. The agency said Benoit was negative for blood alcohol.

The statement said Nancy Benoit had Xanax, hydrocodone and hydromporphone in her body.

The 7-year-old boy, Daniel, had Xanax in his system. The GBI said it could not perform tests for steroids or human growth hormones on the boy because of lack of adequate amount of urine.

Xanax is an anti-anxiety drug. Hydrocodone is a painkiller.

The statement was released just before an afternoon news conference.
Credit: ESPN.com

Dan_ 17-07-2007 07:06 PM

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The press conference with Dr. Kris Sperry who is the Georgia Chief Medical Examiner is just finishing up. Here is the rundown of what was found in the systems of the Benoit Family.

Nancy Benoit

Hydrocodone- 120 mg per liter
Hydromorphone - (By product of Hydrocodone once metabolized).
Xanax- 23 mg per liter
Blood Alcohol Level of .184. The medical examiner believes this level would of been achieved through the bodies natural decomposition process.

Daniel Benoit

Xanax- 110mg per liter.

This was the only drug found in Daniel Benoit's system. Based on the amount of Xanax found in his system, the medical examiner believes that Daniel was sedated at the time of his death.

Chris Benoit

Xanax- 50 mg. (Therapeutic Range)
Hydrocodone- 45mg (Therapeutic Range)

When the medical examiner tested the urine of Chris Benoit he found Testosterone at a rate of 200 mg per liter. This would indicate he would of had to take it for quite some time to achieve these elevated levels.

No artificial steroids were found in his system.

No GHB was found in his system.

The medical examiner made it clear that this does not shed any light on why this tragedy happened. The only thing that is clear at a scientific standpoint is that Daniel Benoit was sedated at the time of his death.

In regards to the elevated testosterone levels, he said scientifically there is no way to determine if testosterone affects the mental state of an individual.
http://www.pwheadlines.com/WWE_News/...y_report.shtml


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