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arista 12-12-2021 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11121395)
Movies are fine, watch them. Just turn off the programmes taking about Covid. Which is most of them.


There is Other News
CNN HD Live in Tornado Twisters


Ch4HDnews had an expert saying that many in December
is wrong
The Warmer air temps longer now.

bots 12-12-2021 04:39 PM

there are now some omicron cases in uk hospitals, as we don't have an easy test to identify omicron. The likelihood is that 1000's currently have it so we have no idea what proportion need hospitalisation and what their vaccination status was

People will just ignore any further restrictions, they cant fine everyone

arista 12-12-2021 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta (Post 11121407)
there are now some omicron cases in uk hospitals, as we don't have an easy test to identify omicron. The likelihood is that 1000's currently have it so we have no idea what proportion need hospitalisation and what their vaccination status was

People will just ignore any further restrictions, they cant fine everyone


Yes, the Test has to go to a Lab.

Alf 12-12-2021 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry Christmas (Post 11121403)
What the hell is he going to do now...if he closes businesses there will be outright war ...

Maybe outright war is the intention?

Crimson Dynamo 12-12-2021 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie (Post 11121405)
We're panicking more about Omicron than South Africa are

and they are 20% vaccinated

thesheriff443 12-12-2021 04:45 PM

Let’s all be honest boris is an embarrassment at this stage and needs to go

bots 12-12-2021 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie (Post 11121387)
These predictions of a million cases a day are insane

if that is accurate then in 2 months we can forget about covid for a while :laugh:

arista 12-12-2021 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11121410)
Maybe outright war is the intention?


No
this is about boosters


8PM Live SkyNewsHD
LBC

Crimson Dynamo 12-12-2021 04:51 PM

Daily Telegraph comment
 
The Government cannot help the fact that the world is now being confronted by the omicron variant, but it has to take responsibility for its failure to do enough to prepare one of the richest, most advanced countries for the oncoming storm.

No wonder so many voters, and, increasingly, back-bench MPs, ministers and Cabinet members, are cynical, angry and exhausted. Two years into this crisis, the authorities appear to have learnt little. The roll-out of third jabs (which appear to be vital in combating the variant) has proceeded far too slowly; bureaucratic errors continue to befuddle every move (with people unnecessarily turned away from vaccination walk-in centres); the Government has ordered far too few antiviral pills; and the process of working on and giving authorisation for new, improved vaccines is scandalously slow.

Just as bad has been the Government’s utter inability to increase the NHS’s capacity. This is extremely hard to do, granted, but why didn’t we spend the past year at least working on a plan for temporary, emergency field hospitals, perhaps staffed with retirees, volunteers and students?

The basic problem is that, while omicron, at present, appears less dangerous than previous variants, it spreads more rapidly, meaning that even if it sends a smaller proportion of the infected to hospital, this could be a very large number in real terms. That, at least, is the hypothesis (still not fully confirmed by data) that senior Government figures are working to. Hence their abject panic at the latest models, and why we are back to the prospect that our lives will be shut down – killing businesses, curtailing liberties and wrecking mental health – to “save” an NHS that, we are told, won’t be able to withstand a looming “tsunami” of hospitalisations.

This was more forgivable in early 2020 because Covid was new and the entire planet had been caught short. Britain had no domestic diagnostic industry, for a start, and the emergency procedures signed off by Jeremy Hunt were for the wrong kind of pandemic.

But why has the Government done so little since then to cope with the inevitability of fresh waves? Why is it falling back on restrictions yet again? Why is nobody sure where the gradual tightening of the rules will end? And does this mean that every new variant will overwhelm us, even when we are on to our fourth or fifth jabs? That would be a strange kind of society. The Government must be held to account for betraying its own earlier success. The world-leading vaccine roll-out was made possible by innovation – taking procurement out of the hands of the NHS, creating a brilliant public/private vaccine taskforce. Then the Government handed the operation back to the sainted NHS. After an initial period of apparent achievement, it lost momentum.

Why doesn’t the booster operation run 24/7? Are there lists of retired medical staff being actively recruited and directed to help?

The worst error of all must be the failure to produce and distribute enough antiviral pills. These can be taken at home, and, as long as Covid is detected quickly and the treatment starts promptly, are hugely effective. This would be the best way to reduce the pressure on the NHS as the pillsscould be delivered to homes or picked up at pharmacies – so why isn’t it happening? We need answers.

For all the vast sums spent, the massively increased NHS budget, and the endless boosterism, we are left playing a giant game of Russian roulette – gambling upon authoritarian measures, the healthcare system not collapsing, and the hope that the variants will eventually fizzle out to something resembling the cold. This is a shocking failure of policy. The Government must get its act together immediately.

Crimson Dynamo 12-12-2021 04:52 PM

and the top comment:

The Government is also being conned by juvenile modelling that is simply wrong. I can only conclude that the ‘scientists’ are now saying the vaccines were a total waste of time and effort. How else could they come up with such stupid numbers, more hospitalisations and 75,000 deaths? I also assume that they have totally discounted natural immunity
Surely these utterly useless modellers and scientists should be properly challenged by people with a proper grasp of numbers, then the truth can be reported to the British public. Why not ask an independent firm of accountants to report back on the models within a 48 hour period, it is not a difficult job for anyone with a good grasp of numbers? The reason is simple, the report would be scathing and the whole scam would collapse

bots 12-12-2021 04:58 PM

again, i saw a model yesterday predicting as many as 450,000 hospitalisations before march, but the model is just complete tosh, anyone with a brain knows they are exaggerating it for effect

arista 12-12-2021 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeghansLetterToSanta (Post 11121429)
again, i saw a model yesterday predicting as many as 450,000 hospitalisations before march, but the model is just complete tosh, anyone with a brain knows they are exaggerating it for effect


Ignore the Guessing

arista 12-12-2021 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11121398)
Any excuse for getting out of nappy changing duty.


No 8PM with his Science/Doctors team


Getting more public onto boosters
must be speeded up.

arista 12-12-2021 05:15 PM

[COVID UK's alert level raised to level 4 - second highest tier
- amid rapid increase in Omicron cases]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uks...cases-12494268

arista 12-12-2021 05:19 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12...9309287667.jpg

Alf 12-12-2021 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11121413)
Let’s all be honest boris is an embarrassment at this stage and needs to go

At least so far he hasn't gone to the extremes that some other countries leaders have. And for that reason, that's why they're pushing to get rid of him. They (the real masters) want someone in who will go to the extremes.

MTVN 12-12-2021 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11121443)
[COVID UK's alert level raised to level 4 - second highest tier
- amid rapid increase in Omicron cases]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uks...cases-12494268

Who even knew that the covid alert levels were still a thing

Pathetic

arista 12-12-2021 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cousin Eddie (Post 11121449)
Who even knew that the covid alert levels were still a thing

Pathetic


Look Facts are important.

So long as you can go to Pubs
you should be OK.

arista 12-12-2021 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11121413)
Let’s all be honest boris is an embarrassment at this stage and needs to go

No,
General Election
vote your Starmer in.

Zizu 12-12-2021 05:31 PM

The country's four chief medical officers have recommended to ministers that the UK moves from level 3 to 4.
The CMOs warn
Omicron
is spreading much faster than Delta and there is less vaccine protection against symptomatic disease from the new variant.

They also said that people are already being treated in hospital due to Omicron and the number of patients is "likely to increase rapidly".


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thesheriff443 12-12-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11121454)
No,
General Election
vote your Starmer in.

No starmer is not the answer we need someone with half a brain in the Conservative party to take over

MTVN 12-12-2021 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11121452)
Look Facts are important.

So long as you can go to Pubs
you should be OK.

Indeed I should, fingers crossed!

MTVN 12-12-2021 05:33 PM

Last Christmas eve I spent in tier 2 (which was lucky at the time tbf as most the country was tier 3) having to rush through pints over a miserable meal and being kicked out as soon as we'd finished our food at 10pm

Better be different this year

arista 12-12-2021 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11121457)
No starmer is not the answer we need someone with half a brain in the Conservative party to take over


But they can not Win Elections

Alf 12-12-2021 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11121452)
Look Facts are important.

So long as you can go to Pubs
you should be OK.

The facts are that I don't need the government's permission to go to the pub. If I want to go to the pub, I go.


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