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arista 01-08-2022 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11196787)
it's to give the family time to say goodbye in a dignified manner


That sounds OK
so long as they accept the new time,

hijaxers 01-08-2022 04:44 PM

Sadly the family have lost in court ~ so it will be inevitable now.

joeysteele 01-08-2022 04:56 PM

I'm actually stunned by the Judges decision today.

I can't see what the problem could or should have been to give the time for the UN appeal to look into this.
It seems odd Judges went against that.

I know it's life support but it is ONLY 3 months about since he was found unconscious.
That's not a greatly long period as to life support.

My heart totally goes out to the family.
To end Archie's existence while they clearly are not ready to accept that .
Plus still in likely intense shock and emotional trauma too.
Sorry, I think the medical team and Judges are WRONG to not allow them the time to exhaust all possible avenues of appeal.

This UN one would have probably been the last channel they could have gone down.

Why Judges would dismiss that seems to me extremely ill judged all through.

Bless the lad.
How the family move on from this when they are so traumatised is beyond me.
Bless them too.
They must be really physically, emotionally and mentality exhausted.

Kazanne 01-08-2022 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11196826)
I'm actually stunned by the Judges decision today.

I can't see what the problem could or should have been to give the time for the UN appeal to look into this.
It seems odd Judges went against that.

I know it's life support but it is ONLY 3 months about since he was found unconscious.
That's not a greatly long period as to life support.

Me heart totally goes out to the family.
To end Archie's existence while they clearly are not ready to accept that .
Plus still in likely intense shock and emotional trauma too.
Sorry, I think the medical team and Judges are WRONG to not allow them the time to exhaust all possible avenues of appeal.

This UN one would have probably been the last channel they could have gone down.

Why Judges would dismiss that seems to me extremely ill judged all through.

Bless the lad.
How the family move on from this when they are so traumatised is beyond me.
Bless them too.
They must be really physically, emotionally and mentality exhausted.

I agree Joey,If it was one of mine I would never want to give up,where theres life theres hope and you do hear of people coming round after a year or more,I would never want to be full of "What ifs" I feel so sorry for them,that his life has been taken out of their hands.

joeysteele 01-08-2022 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 11196831)
I agree Joey,If it was one of mine I would never want to give up,where theres life theres hope and you do hear of people coming round after a year or more,I would never want to be full of "What ifs" I feel so sorry for them,that his life has been taken out of their hands.


Hello Kazanne :wavey:

That's exactly it, they will be full of what ifs.
All through their lives now.

Long after these medics have got their way.
I agree too 3 months is no way a long time and in my view nothing like enough for the family.

I think the courts thus far and the Judges have acted very insensitively and wrongly on this traumatic and heartbreaking case.

Cherie 01-08-2022 05:23 PM

It’s far too short a time ...awful for the family

Crimson Dynamo 01-08-2022 05:24 PM

Imagine the poor Mum the second she awakes tomorrow

and realises

horrific :sad:

Liam- 01-08-2022 05:25 PM

The poor lad has been brain dead since April/May, he’s already dead, keeping him on life support doesn’t make any logistical sense and I know, obviously and understandably that his parents won’t be thinking logically at this time, but I unfortunately think they are being exploited by people who want exposure, they are obviously in the denial phase and who can blame them? But the attacks on the staff who, without a doubt in my mind, have worked tirelessly to do everything that they can possibly do for their son, are completely unwarranted, publicly calling this decision an ‘orchestrated execution’ is beyond insulting and dangerous.

It’s obviously an excruciating time for them and no parent should have to go through losing a child, but they’ve already lost him and now someone who actually needs the equipment can have the chance to make the recovery this boy won’t

AnnieK 01-08-2022 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11196844)
Imagine the poor Mum the second she awakes tomorrow

and realises

horrific :sad:

I doubt she'll sleep. It will be the longest and shortest hours of her life. I can't imagine what I would do. I know I'd want to go with him.

I completely understand that medically it looks hopeless, but who wouldn't look for a miracle if it were their child.

Such a hopeless time for them.....they will feel its a countdown to their own execution. To knowingly watch the machinery be removed that is keeping your child alive must be the single worst thing a human could ever see. I would feel I had failed him on every level and then allowed his death.

I am sure it is terribly difficult for the medical staff, their jobs are to preserve life so to not be able to save a child must be gut wrenching for them too.

Such a sad, painful situation for everyone.

bots 01-08-2022 05:32 PM

the problem is that archie is brain stem dead. There isn't any coming back from that. He isn't being kept alive now because the reality is that he is dead. They can keep a heart pumping but there is no chance of recovery

Mystic Mock 01-08-2022 07:04 PM

This is an awful situation for both the parents and the Doctors to be in.

rusticgal 01-08-2022 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11196848)
the problem is that archie is brain stem dead. There isn't any coming back from that. He isn't being kept alive now because the reality is that he is dead. They can keep a heart pumping but there is no chance of recovery

…and sadly that is the reality. However as a parent you cling to whatever hope you can..it’s human nature…but there will be little or no quality of life.
It’s just tragic..

arista 02-08-2022 11:45 AM

Supreme Court has now Stopped the Machine turn off
for today.

All Media.

UserSince2005 02-08-2022 11:56 AM

He'll never know that BB will be back :sad:

arista 02-08-2022 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UserSince2005 (Post 11197299)
He'll never know that BB will be back :sad:


He is aged 12.

Alf 02-08-2022 12:03 PM

A great mother.

Whatever happens the mother has done everything and more to save her son.

arista 02-08-2022 12:58 PM

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...i076067934.jpg

joeysteele 02-08-2022 02:16 PM

I find this case devastating and heartbreaking.
I'd have to support his family.

After the time passed they shouldn't be left with ANY, 'what ifs'.

bots 02-08-2022 02:55 PM

there aren't any what ifs joey, the lad is brain stem dead. It's devastating for the parents, and they are being egged on and funded by a group that has their own agenda.

UserSince2005 02-08-2022 03:00 PM

They’re still finding ways to prolong this agony? Would someone just turn the machine off and give this poor boy some rest.

joeysteele 02-08-2022 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11197458)
there aren't any what ifs joey, the lad is brain stem dead. It's devastating for the parents, and they are being egged on and funded by a group that has their own agenda.

There's is one now very big, what if.

The Court after the government asked the court to hear the appeal from the UN source.
Then refused time for that.

That, what if, will now likely haunt the Mother and family forever.

It may well be hopeless but I can't see what possibly another period of time given for that UN to fully look at the case, I can't see the justification to refuse that.
If only for the family's needs.

That outside UN source reaching probably the same conclusion could have however helped the Mother and family to now accept this heartbreaking loss slightly more.

That will now likely be the biggest 'what if' of Archie's Mother and family's lives for all time.

Liam- 02-08-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11197458)
there aren't any what ifs joey, the lad is brain stem dead. It's devastating for the parents, and they are being egged on and funded by a group that has their own agenda.

Yep, unfortunate people are exploiting their grief and it’s sad, I find it even worse that a lot of the public are buying into it and feeding the false hope

Liam- 02-08-2022 03:46 PM


arista 02-08-2022 04:05 PM

Yes, the Family want him moved to a hospice?

arista 02-08-2022 04:06 PM

Later today or tomorrow
they can turn off the machine


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