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rusticgal 03-07-2022 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11184684)
Where is the disrespectful discussion? I have been respectful at all points. We cant all agree, but this has remained pretty respectful from all sides. I've not seen name calling at all.

My point is, it can be turned off but shouldn't be removed as sone parent's will feel it is an education opportunity to discuss trans issues with their children. Where is the harm?

Do we ban Emmerdale as Matty is trans and has discussed issues of gender realignment as that might be confusing as why does a man have breasts? Emmerdale is on pre watershed when most kids at watching tv?

Annie...you always hold a respectful discussion. My comments were not aimed at you. Its more than obvious who the name callers are....

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184710)
Because of a 1 minute clip when the whole thing was probably 30 minutes long? :joker:
There are Shows out there that aren't that entertaining at the moment imo, because they pride realism over entertainment.

Ironically this Show isn't even the worst sounding Show that I've heard about.

rusticgal 03-07-2022 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184705)
Exactly. Just ridiculous.

You don't like an opposing opinion so you get the hump.

Get a grip. :joker::joker:
There is debating...and there is name calling which is just uncalled for.

ThomasC 03-07-2022 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184717)
Would children find this content entertaining though?

Don't get me wrong it sounds better now that I know it's not an entire episode, but it's still one of those scenes that sounds like it'd be a really boring scene.
Well if they didn't then they would turn it off:conf:

What you find entertaining as a child will not be the same as an adult

It would solve this whole debate if parents did if they're not happy.

ThomasC 03-07-2022 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11184720)
There is debating...and there is name calling which is just uncalled for.
Like what?

Show me the name calling?

I think someone called someone a bigot at worse. :laugh:

Which only means you won't change your opinion on something.

Shall we just shut down the debate section?

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184712)
Let's just put our heads in our laps and pretend that people don't have periods?

And then when the day comes that your child or children have them they can be really distressed because we didn't want to discuss it or see anything about it.

Ohh, and let's just leave it down to the schools to educate them. Not our business.
It's one of those topics that I personally just don't find interesting to watch.

I wouldn't ban the scene or anything like that because I'm not a lunatic, but I just think it's one of them that's weird to be apart of a Big Hero 6 which looks like a more fantastical story of our world.

So a story about sanitary products just looks to Slice Of Life for that Show.:joker:

ThomasC 03-07-2022 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184723)
It's one of those topics that I personally just don't find interesting to watch.

I wouldn't ban the scene or anything like that because I'm not a lunatic, but I just think it's one of them that's weird to be apart of a Big Hero 6 which looks like a more fantastical story of our world.

So a story about sanitary products just looks to Slice Of Life for that Show.:joker:
Omg. It's like arguing with cotton wool.

You're not a CHILD

Beso 03-07-2022 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184712)
Let's just put our heads in our laps and pretend that people don't have periods?

And then when the day comes that your child or children have them they can be really distressed because we didn't want to discuss it or see anything about it.

Ohh, and let's just leave it down to the schools to educate them. Not our business.

You can pick up plenty of leaflets at the doctors surgery, you dont need a white blob on the telly confusing the issue.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11184713)
You say that, but some people think men can have periods and women can have penises :joker:
I don't think anyone thinks that is biologically possible.

And tbf I wouldn't want Disney to deliberately offend Trans people either, it's supposed to be an entertainment company at the end of the day.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184716)
No you said:

What child would want to watch an episode about Periods? In fact what adult would want to watch an episode about Periods?

And that's when I said well it's not aimed at adults yet you keep going on about adults finding it entertaining and even asking who of us on here would...which just not relevant as it's a children's programme....

Well, :joker: this isn't realistic either...it's a robot asking for recommendations which as I kid I would probably have found funny. The role that children's TV plays has changed somewhat over the years. I feel they are able to add in educational aspects whilst still making it fun... Mr Tumble springs to mind.....the wombles
...I can't think but there's loads, the one where they explain how stuff works and lots of them include maths for example... You are taking something massively out of context to try and say it's not entertaining when all we have seen is a 1 minute clip in which they're in a supermarket buying some sanitary products

No I've asked about children & adults, who would find this entertaining?

Thinking about kids taste in Shows and scenes, they tend to normally love one of three things.

1. Gross humour like Sanjay & Craig.
2. Adventure Shows.
3. Musicals are a big hit with kids.

But ironically you're just jumping onto one part of what I've said, and have completely ignored posts where I've said about who in general (including kids) will find a scene, an episode or a season about Sanitary products entertaining? Thinking of when I was a kid, my Niece & Nephew's taste in Shows, and kids in general, they aren't really that interested in this type of scene so it's weird for Disney to make it imo.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184721)
Well if they didn't then they would turn it off:conf:

What you find entertaining as a child will not be the same as an adult

It would solve this whole debate if parents did if they're not happy.
Tbf I haven't seen the scene in question so maybe it is less boring than it sounds.

It's just to me personally the idea sounds dull, speaking for myself as a kid too, it just sounds like a really dull scene.

And for me an entertainment medium should be providing entertainment for it's audience, maybe Disney can prove me wrong though and kids will rate this scene really highly.

jet 03-07-2022 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184705)
Exactly. Just ridiculous.

You don't like an opposing opinion so you get the hump.

Get a grip. :joker::joker:
I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, and I had an opinion on one aspect only, as I repeatedly said.
It’s when they go on to expand and lecture you on things you didn’t even refer to or have a problem with in the first place, that its not worth the bother. My personal choice.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11184720)
There is debating...and there is name calling which is just uncalled for.
Have I missed something?

I feel like me and ThomasC at least have debated each other respectfully, and Jet & AnnieK seemed fine to me.

I mean this is a 5 page thread so I might've missed something, but everyone seems reasonably respectful in the debate from what I've read.

Black Dagger 03-07-2022 03:14 PM
I'm actually ashamed at what this forum has become. Really don't know why I bothered to log in but it had to be said.

rusticgal 03-07-2022 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184722)
Like what?

Show me the name calling?

I think someone called someone a bigot at worse. :laugh:

Which only means you won't change your opinion on something.

Shall we just shut down the debate section?

Look at the put downs to anyone who dare challenge the point....'Thick' 'Unintelligent' 'Bigots'....and you quoted them and agreed :shrug:

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 11184740)
I'm actually ashamed at what this forum has become. Really don't know why I bothered to log in but it had to be said.
Welcome back Black Dagger.

Not meant as sarcasm btw, I'm happy to see you back.

I apologize if my posts have put you off coming back on here, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was thinking about the episode from an entertainment/interest perspective.

I don't perceive myself to be in the transphobic camp, but people can correct me on that if they feel otherwise.

rusticgal 03-07-2022 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184739)
Have I missed something?

I feel like me and ThomasC at least have debated each other respectfully, and Jet & AnnieK seemed fine to me.

I mean this is a 5 page thread so I might've missed something, but everyone seems reasonably respectful in the debate from what I've read.
The random few come on here and spoil the tone...calling any parent or anyone that objects "Thick, uneducated and unintelligent"....TC offers good debate but he quoted these comments and agreed with them...
...and that was up to page 2.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ThomasC (Post 11184724)
Omg. It's like arguing with cotton wool.

You're not a CHILD
I know.

No offence intended here, but I think you're not judging this Show through the lens of what a child would want to watch.

I'm judging it from a child's perspective first and foremost, and when I was a child I wouldn't watch a programme that had such a realistic approach to storytelling, and a lot of kids don't like realistic kids stories like this either as they're immature and normally want to watch something more juvenile or adventurous.

And then I judge the programme through my own personal tastes that I have now, and that scene sounds incredibly dull, and as it's the only thing that I know about the programme then it's the only thing that I have to go off.

I hope that I've made my point clear.

Black Dagger 03-07-2022 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184743)
Welcome back Black Dagger.

Not meant as sarcasm btw, I'm happy to see you back.

I apologize if my posts have put you off coming back on here, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was thinking about the episode from an entertainment/interest perspective.

I don't perceive myself to be in the transphobic camp, but people can correct me on that if they feel otherwise.
Oh it's not you that has made me not want to post anymore. Don't worry about that.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 11184747)
Oh it's not you that has made me not want to post anymore. Don't worry about that.
Well I'm relieved about that.

Hopefully you do reconsider and stick around though, you have made really good posts over the years.

Mystic Mock 03-07-2022 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 11184745)
The random few come on here and spoil the tone...calling any parent or anyone that objects "Thick, uneducated and unintelligent"....TC offers good debate but he quoted these comments and agreed with them...
...and that was up to page 2.
Fair enough, I've probably missed them when skimming through the thread.

I'm gonna be off now anyway, I've enjoyed the debate.

See you guys later.:wavey:

jet 03-07-2022 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184703)
Tbf it's a debates section of the Forum so people are gonna disagree with you on topics, it's natural with these threads.
I'll reply to you too Mock as I did to Thomas:

I have no problem whatsoever with anyone disagreeing with my opinion, and I had an opinion on one aspect only, as I repeatedly said.
It’s when they go on to expand and lecture you on things you didn’t even refer to or have a problem with in the first place, that its not worth the bother. My personal choice.

rusticgal 03-07-2022 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184749)
Fair enough, I've probably missed them when skimming through the thread.

I'm gonna be off now anyway, I've enjoyed the debate.

See you guys later.:wavey:

:wavey:

Beso 03-07-2022 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11184743)
Welcome back Black Dagger.

Not meant as sarcasm btw, I'm happy to see you back.

I apologize if my posts have put you off coming back on here, I didn't mean to offend anyone, I was thinking about the episode from an entertainment/interest perspective.

I don't perceive myself to be in the transphobic camp, but people can correct me on that if they feel otherwise.


Half the problem is the fact you've been made to feel like you have to apologise.

Jordan. 03-07-2022 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11184583)
Having it as two words is confusing. It should be transman, adding the space makes it sound like "man who is trans", which would be a transwoman.
Okay? Well take it up with the dictionary or something then pick me


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