Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11221495)

She has a much bigger back bone then Kier and knows exactly what needs doing, Kier constantly harms himself by not even given a sleek of what he would do like if Labour is elected as expected we don't even have any sort of idea what they would plan to do apart from take back the things the tories privatised

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11221502)

Jess Phillips, Angela Raynor, David Lammy. They dont fill me with confidence but they seem to be the future of labour. :bored:

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11221503)

Andy Burnham could do wonders if given the chance

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11220986)

Agreed. I don't think Starmer is a strong leader....but people are now so sick of the Tories Labour will win by a landslide if there was election tomorrow, regardless of their leader.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11221456)

I actually hope there is a general election and Labour win

I cannot wait to come in here to see you lot defending them on a daily basis .. as Labour mess everything up big time

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11221478)

You can stick by the conservatives all you like Zizu, but at the end of the day this ISN'T about Labour. The Tory party are the ones who have been in power for the past long 12 YEARS.

If you fail to see any wrongdoing they ever do then that's up to you. But the conservatives have proved time and time again that it's every man for themselves,they don't give a damn about the general public. And they will continue to lie and manipulate and run this country into the ground.

Truss quitting after just 44 days will go down in history as one of the most embarrassing pathetic moments in politics . Seriously the whole party is a joke .

You bringing up Labour ..reminds me of when people use to slag Obama down in American politics despite the fact it was Trump who had been in power at the time for the past few years. People see what they want to see . You can't keep bringing up previous politicians whilst ignoring current very real problems. It just doesn't make sense ,and it feels like a deflection tactic .

They will blindly defend and support whoever they want. Knock yourself out and continue to feel sorry for Boris all you want with rose tinted glasses . But Joey put it best when he described him as a ODIOUS CREEP . I will never like Boris after everything he's done , he has ZERO morals ...... I WOULDN'T trust him AN INCH.

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11221522)

I voted twice for him to be Labour leader.
I really rate Andy Burnham.
So I agree with what you say there.

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11221486)

Don't insult me Zizu, its not a good look.
I have lived through both Labour and Tory governments and neither have benefitted me much. I have never revealed on here which way I vote, ever, so you have no idea which party I vote for. The fact that I can't stand Johnson has nothing to do with my memory, thank you very much.

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11221528)

I’ve said all along that all the parties are as bad as each other when they are in power ..


All totally useless and corrupt


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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 11221543)

Even if they are all 'bad as eachother' , the tories are the ones who have royally screwed things up so badly to the point where they need to be booted out.

SO like i said of course Labour will be looking might fine at the moment. I've personally always been a Labour supporter ... no party is perfect 100% . Ideally Labour needs a NEW STRONG leader who will stick by their principles. If we had a general election now i think most of the country would get behind labour.

At the end of the day we still live in a democracy , so somebody has to be in office whether you like them or not .

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11221581)

the problem with Burnham is that all the people likely to vote for labour because of the tory mess wouldnt end up voting for labour if he were the leader

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11221584)

Originally Posted by Kate! (Post 11221582)

How come? I think Andy is very personable.

Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11221529)

I think a Rayner/Burnham team would be gold for Labour

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11221587)

Nah, Burnham is a.media *****. He tried to stick us with a congestion charge then backed down when everyone kicked off and tried to blame the Gov when not one other council were going to charge theor citizens. He thinks of himaelf not his constituents. Not many in Manchester would vote for him if he were leader.

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11221459)

That's a lie, Jet. Vaccine rollout was nothing to do with brexit whatsoever.