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Swan 02-11-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224558)
Far right terrorism is a much bigger issue in the UK then Islamic terrorism despite what people will have you belive

No, that's simply not true. Of course far right terrorism exists, but Islamic terrorism in the UK is a much bigger threat to life. I think the figures for the last 5 or so years in the UK were 2 people dead due to far right terrorism, 37 dead due to Islamic terrorism.

arista 02-11-2022 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11224561)
I think a different European country tried this in the 1930's. Not sure how it played out, but would be an interesting topic to look into.


No you are being silly, again

The Slim Reaper 02-11-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11224566)
No you are being silly, again

Check the history books, it's definitely there.

arista 02-11-2022 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11224567)
Check the history books, it's definitely there.


Nothing like what we are planning

Zizu 02-11-2022 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 11224533)
The Crazy attacker
who killed himself
Andrew Leak, 66, frequently shared
far-right conspiracy theories.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...P=share_btn_tw

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11...7349231397.jpg


They should shut down every conspiracy theory site/page immediately it’s uploaded


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arista 02-11-2022 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11224569)
They should shut down every conspiracy theory site/page immediately it’s uploaded


Many are international
so takes time to close

Denver 02-11-2022 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11224562)
No, that's simply not true. Of course far right terrorism exists, but Islamic terrorism in the UK is a much bigger threat to life. I think the figures for the last 5 or so years in the UK were 2 people dead due to far right terrorism, 37 dead due to Islamic terrorism.

The growth of far right terrorism is terrifyingly high compared to that of Islamic terrorism over the last 5 to 10 years and the government allows political parties to exist that are involved in such thing.

People need to stop thinking only Asian people are a threat because the white are so much worse and for your statistics they don't count for every death and crime committed by the far right, how many lgbt or poc have been physically attacked and murdered by the far right? Ask yourself that question because we need to stop throwing the white people cant be terrorist cards out there as the countries failure to deal with what was infront of their eyes has allowed it to get stronger

Oliver_W 02-11-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224571)
how many lgbt or poc have been physically attacked and murdered by the far right?

How many? This is all just rhetoric unless you can prove it's any significant number, and because of their demographic trait.

Crimson Dynamo 02-11-2022 11:44 AM

not the whole far right terror myth again :facepalm:

Swan 02-11-2022 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224571)
The growth of far right terrorism is terrifyingly high compared to that of Islamic terrorism over the last 5 to 10 years and the government allows political parties to exist that are involved in such thing.

People need to stop thinking only Asian people are a threat because the white are so much worse and for your statistics they don't count for every death and crime committed by the far right, how many lgbt or poc have been physically attacked and murdered by the far right? Ask yourself that question because we need to stop throwing the white people cant be terrorist cards out there as the countries failure to deal with what was infront of their eyes has allowed it to get stronger

Of course white people can be terrorists, who is saying they can't? I don't want to get into the "well whites are worse than Islamic terrorists" argument because it's ridiculous to compare 2 evils who's goals are exactly the same. Lets not be stupid here either, if you think Islamic terrorists are allies of the LGBT community then you are very much mistaken. It's disturbingly ironic that both the far right and Islamic terrorist detest LGBT people. Wasn't it only a couple of years ago when 3 gay men were stabbed to death by an Islamic terrorist in the UK?

Neither is worst as they're both terrible. If a white person, black person, brown person, if ANYONE ran up to you with a knife you'd sh!t your pants just like anyone would. Their colour or religion wouldn't enter your mind.

Oliver_W 02-11-2022 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224571)
The growth of far right terrorism is terrifyingly high compared to that of Islamic terrorism over the last 5 to 10 years

What figures lead you to that conclusion?

Denver 02-11-2022 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11224593)
What figures lead you to that conclusion?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ght-extremists

While 15 years ago it was dominated by Islamist plotters, in recent years the most severe threats to the country’s national security feature people planning atrocities linked to extreme rightwing ideology.

Oliver_W 02-11-2022 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224604)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...ght-extremists



While 15 years ago it was dominated by Islamist plotters, in recent years the most severe threats to the country’s national security feature people planning atrocities linked to extreme rightwing ideology.

The ratio of counter-terrorism investigations is still roughly six Islamist for every one from the extreme right wing
~ also from the article you linked.

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Denver 02-11-2022 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11224605)
The ratio of counter-terrorism investigations is still roughly six Islamist for every one from the extreme right wing
~ also from the article you linked.

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Which shows the threat of Islamic terrorism hasn't change but the threat of Right Wing terrorism is growing at a much faster speed

Oliver_W 02-11-2022 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224607)
Which shows the threat of Islamic terrorism hasn't change but the threat of Right Wing terrorism is growing at a much faster speed

Which figures are you comparing it to in order to demonstrate which is growing faster?

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Denver 02-11-2022 12:49 PM

Only people with suspicious intentions would try to make out right wing terrorism is not an issue

Crimson Dynamo 02-11-2022 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224610)
Only people with suspicious intentions would try to make out right wing terrorism is not an issue

Only people with chips on their shoulders and agendas would say that people who have suspicious intentions would try to make out right wing terrorism is not an issue

Oliver_W 02-11-2022 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224610)
Only people with suspicious intentions would try to make out right wing terrorism is not an issue

Who's trying to make it not an issue? If you want to make things up, fine. But if you want to pretend you're not pulling stuff out of your hat, it might help if you have sources for the increases abojt which you're talking.

Beso 02-11-2022 02:53 PM

Poor bloke lost hos cock to cancer, and his head to a car noose.

Beso 02-11-2022 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224558)
Far right terrorism is a much bigger issue in the UK then Islamic terrorism despite what people will have you belive

Not to me it's not.

Mystic Mock 02-11-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 11224535)
No way. I don't believe it.

Well you'd better start believing it.:laugh:

Mystic Mock 02-11-2022 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11224558)
Far right terrorism is a much bigger issue in the UK then Islamic terrorism despite what people will have you belive

You have a point tbh, because sometimes the country in general doesn't recognize situations like trying to attack a group of people in a Van as terrorism, when it clearly is.

Mystic Mock 02-11-2022 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Swan (Post 11224562)
No, that's simply not true. Of course far right terrorism exists, but Islamic terrorism in the UK is a much bigger threat to life. I think the figures for the last 5 or so years in the UK were 2 people dead due to far right terrorism, 37 dead due to Islamic terrorism.

I actually didn't know that statistic.

I do wonder though if the stats are a bit skewed because a lot of terrorist acts don't actually get labelled as terrorism in this country?

Crimson Dynamo 02-11-2022 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11224680)
I actually didn't know that statistic.

I do wonder though if the stats are a bit skewed because a lot of terrorist acts don't actually get labelled as terrorism in this country?

What like when West Ham ICF batter a load of Spurs fans

is that Terrorism?

or if 2 Doormen knock the granny out of a mouthy teen?

Is that Terrorism?

Denver 02-11-2022 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11224759)
What like when West Ham ICF batter a load of Spurs fans

is that Terrorism?

or if 2 Doormen knock the granny out of a mouthy teen?

Is that Terrorism?

When a Asian person does something its terrorism when a white person does the exact same they are labeled mental ill


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