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Beso 15-04-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281319)
Oh please, most of your friends on this forum only defend and have empathy for women when it serves them the chance to attack gays or trans people, you should probably have a word with them before saying I have no empathy for women :joker:

I think cherie was asking for your views and opinions that dont make you think about how you look on a bb forum liam!

Cherie 16-04-2023 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281319)
Oh please, most of your friends on this forum only defend and have empathy for women when it serves them the chance to attack gays or trans people, you should probably have a word with them before saying I have no empathy for women :joker:

we were having a conversation Liam, you and I, I dont know why you needed to bring anyone else into it :shrug:

Well I do because you have no answer to my question, you dont care about women it's been very plain in your posts for ages

Cherie 16-04-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hijaxers (Post 11281320)
Give up Cherie its like talking to a wall

I know Jax, its just a bit rich to say we are trying to erase trans people which he knows full well is not the case at all, when its clear he hates women and doesnt care about their safety or quality of life

Oliver_W 16-04-2023 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11280852)
general society

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...FpdK/giphy.gif

Liam- 17-04-2023 03:05 PM



They don’t care about children, don’t let them pretend they do

Cherie 17-04-2023 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281754)


They don’t care about children, don’t let them pretend they do

When a school contacts a parent about any number of issues they dont know what they are walking into....some parents could go nuts for instance if they are not doing their homework, or skiving lessons, do you think parents should be involved if kids are skipping school? why should parents be kept in the dark if their child leaves home as Harry and is called Harriet at school, its not like it wouldn't get back to them by other means, parents dont exist in a bubble they usually know what is going on at school with their children and will know other parents of other children and will speak to them ....this is just nonsense to think a child can keep that from their parents even if they dont tell them directly....

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2023 03:26 PM

:clap1:

Rishi

Barry. 17-04-2023 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281754)


They don’t care about children, don’t let them pretend they do

That’s bullying!

Oliver_W 17-04-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281754)


They don’t care about children, don’t let them pretend they do

Schools keeping that sort of thing secret would be a blatent disregard for safeguarding.

Livia 17-04-2023 03:27 PM

Liam, pretending to know what others think.

Liam- 17-04-2023 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry. (Post 11281765)
That’s bullying!

Yep, government sponsored bullying and when they start doing it, any child that gets abused, neglected or thrown out as a result, they will be responsible for, all this bull**** about them ‘protecting kids’ then they go and implement policies purposefully putting kids in harms way because they don’t like who they are, it’s gross.

A lot of the time schools are the only safe space for kids who grow up in hostile or uncomfortable surroundings and to choose to take that away from the most already marginalised people, is just a full on act of cruelty

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2023 03:38 PM

Time to get a grip on this social contagion in schools. Rishi stepping forward with action - Starmer, like Sturgeon trying to encourage it.

user104658 17-04-2023 03:40 PM

The idea that schools should be hiding information about kids from their parents is quite troubling. If a kid has come to a person at the school in confidence to let them know that they have specific issues/worries about how they're being treated at home or what might happen at home, that's a totally different discussion because the school should also be taking that very seriously. But just "as standard" keeping information about a child's social existence back from their own primary caregivers? :umm2:

Cherie 17-04-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281775)
Yep, government sponsored bullying and when they start doing it, any child that gets abused, neglected or thrown out as a result, they will be responsible for, all this bull**** about them ‘protecting kids’ then they go and implement policies purposefully putting kids in harms way because they don’t like who they are, it’s gross.

A lot of the time schools are the only safe space for kids who grow up in hostile or uncomfortable surroundings and to choose to take that away from the most already marginalised people, is just a full on act of cruelty

I would never consider secondary schools to be a safe place, full of bullies :shrug: hands up anyone who wasn't bullied at secondary school

Liam- 17-04-2023 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11281781)
I would never consider secondary schools to be a safe place, full of bullies :shrug: hands up anyone who wasn't bullied at secondary school

Bullied by teachers and guidance officers were you?

user104658 17-04-2023 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281782)
Bullied by teachers and guidance officers were you?

Bullying by teachers is extremely common. Sadly.

Crimson Dynamo 17-04-2023 04:02 PM

this is the war we have in our schools..

Female teacher at £20,000-a-year girls' school is forced to
apologise to pupils for saying 'Good afternoon, girls'


A teacher was left 'humiliated' after being ordered to apologise to 11-year-
olds at a private girls' school – for calling them girls.

Bosses at the £20,000-a-year school told the woman to deliver the mea culpa
after her class complained that she had said 'good afternoon, girls' at the
start of a lesson, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

After being told by the pupils that 'not everyone here identifies as female',
she arrived in class the following day to find they had pointedly written their
names and pronouns on the board, including one who used they/them.

They also held a lunchtime protest after she refused to acknowledge their
demands.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oon-girls.html


absolute spineless cowards in charge

Cherie 17-04-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11281788)
this is the war we have in our schools..

Female teacher at £20,000-a-year girls' school is forced to
apologise to pupils for saying 'Good afternoon, girls'


A teacher was left 'humiliated' after being ordered to apologise to 11-year-
olds at a private girls' school – for calling them girls.

Bosses at the £20,000-a-year school told the woman to deliver the mea culpa
after her class complained that she had said 'good afternoon, girls' at the
start of a lesson, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

After being told by the pupils that 'not everyone here identifies as female',
she arrived in class the following day to find they had pointedly written their
names and pronouns on the board, including one who used they/them.

They also held a lunchtime protest after she refused to acknowledge their
demands.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oon-girls.html


absolute spineless cowards in charge

Looks like the kids are in charge, wonderful!

Cherie 17-04-2023 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281782)
Bullied by teachers and guidance officers were you?

We had teachers who had obvious dislikes for some students yes

I am a bit confused by this safe haven, most schools do nothing about bullying and kids wont report it as it makes it worse

Cherie 17-04-2023 04:26 PM

You didn't answer my question Liam, do you think parents or guardians should be contacted if students are skipping lessons or falling behind with their homework?

Liam- 17-04-2023 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11281793)
You didn't answer my question Liam, do you think parents or guardians should be contacted if students are skipping lessons or falling behind with their homework?

Yes, because that is about school conduct and rules, contacting parents and outing kids to potentially abusive or negligent parents is a completely different thing, it’s none of the schools business what someone identifies as, as long as nobody is getting hurt or in danger, there is no excuse for a school to get involved so personally with a students life

user104658 17-04-2023 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 11281798)
Yes, because that is about school conduct and rules, contacting parents and outing kids to potentially abusive or negligent parents is a completely different thing, it’s none of the schools business what someone identifies as, as long as nobody is getting hurt or in danger, there is no excuse for a school to get involved so personally with a students life

The idea that a kid could be out and proud at school and it not get back to their parents is -- to be blunt -- absolute fantasy in the first place. School communities are small. If Jenny is Johnny at school, every parent in the catchment area is going to know about it within a couple of months, whether the teachers say anything about it or not. You can't "keep a secret" in a public setting and pretending to a kid that this is even possible is much riskier than being realistic and saying "if this is going to be a thing, your parents are going to know about it".

user104658 17-04-2023 04:38 PM

To use a real world anecdotal example - our next door neighbour's son (15) who is friends with my daughter is gay. My daughter has known since he was about 13. A year later he decided to be openly out at school.

His mum was told by the kid across the street when she announced it to her when she was out washing her car... three DAYS later :joker:. Not an ideal way to be outed to one's parents, I imagine.

Beso 17-04-2023 05:02 PM

War on trans my arsehole.

Just watch all the videos of the TRA abusing and assaulting anyone and everyone involved in womens rights, rosie parker, TLA, etc. Just watch how the police stand back and facilitate them on every video out there.

Beso 17-04-2023 05:10 PM

A person with parental responsibility can make decisions about the child’s upbringing and is entitled to information about their child. For example, they can give consent to the child’s medical treatment and make decisions about the child’s education. They also have the right to receive information about their child’s health and education..

There is no war, the parent has rights and always have done. This is not a new thing, sorry to burst the bubbles, but the school by law, have to divulge things to parents.


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