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Niamh. 23-08-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11683096)
I see

But it was basically an execution so you can see why it brings mixed feelings



If we look at it from the justice side they are murderers

Oh absolutely but they have served a lot of time already

Niamh. 23-08-2025 12:58 PM

Plus I doubt they are a case where there's a risk of re offending either

Zizu 23-08-2025 02:01 PM

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11683107)
Plus I doubt they are a case where there's a risk of re offending either


Are you really suggesting that two people who are capable of executing two other others ( their own parents ) are not a risk to the public !??


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Niamh. 23-08-2025 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11683120)
Are you really suggesting that two people who are capable of executing two other others ( their own parents ) are not a risk to the public !??


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I'm suggesting that two people who killed their abusers are not the average type of killer and are unlikely to kill again yes.

bots 23-08-2025 04:15 PM

To be fair, they were adults when they killed their parents, they did have other options available to them.

I don't for a second, understand the american legal system and they have had some very serious criminals that get executed and others that seem to get a pat on the head and told not to do it again.

Also, we need to remember that America is basically a banana republic now, your guilt or innocence is based on your ability to pay or what dirty details you have on Trump

Niamh. 23-08-2025 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bots (Post 11683151)
To be fair, they were adults when they killed their parents, they did have other options available to them.

I don't for a second, understand the american legal system and they have had some very serious criminals that get executed and others that seem to get a pat on the head and told not to do it again.

Also, we need to remember that America is basically a banana republic now, your guilt or innocence is based on your ability to pay or what dirty details you have on Trump

I'm not saying they should have gotten away with no sentence at all. I just think 30 years is long enough considering the circumstances.

Zizu 23-08-2025 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11683126)
I'm suggesting that two people who killed their abusers are not the average type of killer and are unlikely to kill again yes.


But they are surely CAPABLE of anything so why on Earth take risks with innocent members of the public


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Niamh. 23-08-2025 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11683278)
But they are surely CAPABLE of anything so why on Earth take risks with innocent members of the public


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I don't consider child rapists and child rapist coverers innocent members of the public :shrug:

Zizu 23-08-2025 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11683279)
I don't consider child rapists and child rapist coverers innocent members of the public :shrug:


What !?!?

I mean if they release them it puts genuinely innocent people at risk ..


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Niamh. 23-08-2025 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11683280)
What !?!?

I mean if they release them it puts genuinely innocent people at risk ..


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And i don't agree with you, they killed their abusers.

Zizu 23-08-2025 11:18 PM

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11683282)
And i don't agree with you, they killed their abusers.


So they are obviously capable of killing again !!!

I don’t even kill flies and I pick up worms on paths on rainy days then place them safely elsewhere


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thesheriff443 23-08-2025 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11683295)
So they are obviously capable of killing again !!!

I don’t even kill flies and pick up worms on paths ..


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They are in America so what ever happens it’s not going to affect you

Zizu 23-08-2025 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11683296)
They are in America so what ever happens it’s not going to affect you


I am obviously not bothered about myself just any other innocent people …


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Ammi 24-08-2025 06:42 AM

…honestly Zizu, you would be the worst jury person when you don’t seem to need to know any details/accounts of a case to form such definite conclusions…

…anyway, this case of the brothers was always so complex that there were two trials originally, with the first ending in a hung jury…and then with the second trial, the alleged sexual and mental abuse/which had also had been cited by others was not allowed to be brought into their trial at all…so without that, then the verdict was pretty much a given to be what it was…if I recall as well with the judge in the first trial…?…it was even suggested that because gay men seemed to be drawn and attracted to Erik…?…that he in some way enjoyed the sexual abuse from his father…so acknowledging that sexual abuse…(…which wasn’t allowed to be cited in the second trial…)…but that it wasn’t perceived as damaging abuse…

…anyway, the decision has been made not to grant either of them parole and that will remain until they can appeal for it again…/…which will be at least three years…I’m sure that it’s probably what they thought it would be anyway and it’s what they’ve prepared for…interesting though that for Erik…?…the parole decision was said to not be because of the crime committed but because of behaviours in prison …whereas with Lyle, he was described by his parole board as a model prisoner and still denied parole, presumably based on the crime…for me it doesn’t seem as though there is any intention to ever release them…

Zizu 24-08-2025 09:10 AM

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 
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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11683339)
…honestly Zizu, you would be the worst jury person when you don’t seem to need to know any details/accounts of a case to form such definite conclusions…

…anyway, this case of the brothers was always so complex that there were two trials originally, with the first ending in a hung jury…and then with the second trial, the alleged sexual and mental abuse/which had also had been cited by others was not allowed to be brought into their trial at all…so without that, then the verdict was pretty much a given to be what it was…if I recall as well with the judge in the first trial…?…it was even suggested that because gay men seemed to be drawn and attracted to Erik…?…that he in some way enjoyed the sexual abuse from his father…so acknowledging that sexual abuse…(…which wasn’t allowed to be cited in the second trial…)…but that it wasn’t perceived as damaging abuse…

…anyway, the decision has been made not to grant either of them parole and that will remain until they can appeal for it again…/…which will be at least three years…I’m sure that it’s probably what they thought it would be anyway and it’s what they’ve prepared for…interesting though that for Erik…?…the parole decision was said to not be because of the crime committed but because of behaviours in prison …whereas with Lyle, he was described by his parole board as a model prisoner and still denied parole, presumably based on the crime…for me it doesn’t seem as though there is any intention to ever release them…


Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people



PS

A clue may be found in their nicknames..

The MONSTERS ..


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Zizu 24-08-2025 09:12 AM

Someone do a poll to see what everyone thinks

Keep behind bars or release


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Ammi 24-08-2025 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11683419)
Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people


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…and yet you’ve also suggested in other stories that sexual abusers/paedophiles be put to death and specifically shot…which is essentially the crux of the case/that the brothers shot their abusers …that’s cool though, you have all of the details you need of a complex case/which appears to be no details at all, to enable you to reach a conclusion…

Niamh. 24-08-2025 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11683419)
Two brothers killed their parents - end of

Those are the only details I need to come to the ( obvious) conclusion that they should never, ever be released from captivity- for the sake of all innocent people



PS

A clue may be found in their nicknames..

The MONSTERS ..


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Again, you're misinformed, Monsters isn't their nickname, it's the name of the Netflix dramatisation of the case and it's ambiguous as to who they're referring to as the "monsters" whether it's the parents or the sons or maybe a bit of both

Ammi 24-08-2025 12:07 PM

…I absolutely understand that many mindsets are that Lyle and Erik should never be released and that a life sentence should mean a life sentence with no parole, I mean that’s obviously where the parole board stand as well …but those mindsets and those decisions are hopefully based on information and the balancing and weighing of that information…

bots 24-08-2025 02:39 PM

i was just reading in the news today that anyone that gets sentenced to a year won't serve time if the government get their way and that prisoners will be able to earn early release after completing a third of their sentence. Soon i would imagine they just wont bother sending anyone to jail. Thats the UK for you

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 02-09-2025 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11683156)
I'm not saying they should have gotten away with no sentence at all. I just think 30 years is long enough considering the circumstances.

Agreed.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo 02-09-2025 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11683494)
…I absolutely understand that many mindsets are that Lyle and Erik should never be released and that a life sentence should mean a life sentence with no parole, I mean that’s obviously where the parole board stand as well …but those mindsets and those decisions are hopefully based on information and the balancing and weighing of that information…

They probably weren't able to prove that their parents were going to kill them first as they claimed.

Zizu 02-09-2025 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 11683423)
…and yet you’ve also suggested in other stories that sexual abusers/paedophiles be put to death and specifically shot…which is essentially the crux of the case/that the brothers shot their abusers …that’s cool though, you have all of the details you need of a complex case/which appears to be no details at all, to enable you to reach a conclusion…


Oh the death penalty for these two creatures would be my first choice definitely.. is there any proof the parents were sexual abusers


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Niamh. 03-09-2025 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11686735)
Oh the death penalty for these two creatures would be my first choice definitely.. is there any proof the parents were sexual abusers


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Yes but why are you even bothering to ask? You clearly have a closed mind and don't want any information on the case.

The father has had other accusations of sexual abuse from members of a boy band he used to manage, there was naked photos found of the boys when they were children, cousins have testified in court saying that the brothers told them it was happening and older relatives have come forward saying they witnessed the dad being physically abusive

Zizu 03-09-2025 06:07 PM

MONSTERS: The Lyle and Erik Menendez Story
 
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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11686800)
Yes but why are you even bothering to ask? You clearly have a closed mind and don't want any information on the case.

The father has had other accusations of sexual abuse from members of a boy band he used to manage, there was naked photos found of the boys when they were children, cousins have testified in court saying that the brothers told them it was happening and older relatives have come forward saying they witnessed the dad being physically abusive


Fair enough .. point taken

I still don’t want ANYONE capable of killing/ assassinating someone to ever be released


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