I disagree with you but as you're a dude, it's not an issue, my brother :smug:

Seriously. I've written enough on centrism already. there is loads more I could write, but I think the forum might explode if I do.

What put us on to a path was post war socialism. That's just a fact. Now, if socialism had been in charge of the country for 50 years, then human nature and corruption would have taken over, and it would have failed. However, right wing neoliberalism has been in charge for 50 years, and it has failed. No one thinks this country is in a healthy state at the moment, and yet right wing neoliberalism can't survive on the right alone, it needed the centre, whether that's Blairs (a thatcher acolyte) version of neoliberalism (more centrist, and better, actually - but not good enough), or Camerons/Johnsons, right through to truss' libertarian version.

None of this would have been possible without the centre ground.

Now after 50 years of this, absolutely no change is on offer, only more of the exact same thing, only this time with a different colour rosette. For this to keep happening, then centrists need to have been on board and whether that's knowingly or unwittingly the results are the same.

Centrist labour members were awarded peerages by Johnsons tory party for working against labour with false smears. When centrists have the choice of left or right, they invariably, and provably go right. Now that's ok if that's what people believe, but to pretend that isn't actually the case is not a position based in reality.

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper View Post
We've only had the chat for a few hours, and it's a Friday night - not really surprising. Need to give folks the chance to get sorted. Chill, sister Kate.

:umm2:What even is that, you are making my skin crawl, aside from that you bring up two mods who said something to you in private years ago about my attitude to you,not too hard to figure out who they are, nice of you to throw people who probably consider you as a friend under the bus just to point score though, I am putting you on permanent ignore now, you will be all on your own on there, I just cannot be dealing with your gaslighting creepy bullshit for another minute on here, so chat away to yourself, bring me up as many times as you want as per your obsession with me, but I wont be reading it .

Hi.

This is difficult as I claim both Cherie and Slim as friends and like them both.

I have little to say except that I didn't take offence at Slim saying I was a Robinson supporter, and I've told him so. I looked up acolyte as I wasn't sure of the meaning and it means follower.

I'd like to add that I don't support riots by following Tommy and if you take time to find out truly what he's all about he is a peaceful man, as is Paul Thorpe one of his associates. People probably won't agree, that's fine.

I'm sad Cherie feels aggrieved and I can see both sides of the disagreement. I'll stay neutral.

Peace to you both and I hope maybe one day your differences will resolve. If not then please know I enjoy and appreciate you both on a personal level.

Thank you for listening.

Kate xx

No bother Kate thanks for posting

I agree; that post makes my skin crawl too, but when you say I don't say sister, but I'm quoted using sister, then what are we doing here?

No one has been thrown under the bus, because there is nothing for anyone to be under a bus for. You already know you're also on good terms with everyone, so it's obvious you weren't being slagged off or gossiped about. Asking what was up was a legitimate question at the time; that's how jarring and (for the time) out of character it was. Or are we pretending that mods don't talk to anyone or have any curiosity about what's going on a forum they moderate.

Took a while but we made it in the end. None of this ever had to happen. We were on good terms, and that's where this started, none of this is because of any misogyny. I haven't been the nicest person in this thread, but I haven't resorted to anything like the torrent of attempted personal attacks you've thrown my way.