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Dr43%er 27-02-2008 03:41 PM

"But then he wanted more from me and I couldnt give it so it had to end."

You did the right thing. It can not work if there is a hint of the other person wanting more as then it is no longer honest.

"I admire you Doc, if you can keep that happy medium with friend and sex buddy then I respect you because its hard to do "

We have not found it hard at all. I think it is because we don't really fancy each other. There is obviously a sexual attraction but nothing more. Saying that we could have a beer as mates and nothing more at any time.

Captain.Remy 27-02-2008 05:10 PM

I agree with everyone except Bananarama in this topic: why is it wrong to have sex for a night ? I really don't understand.
Sex is such a wonderful thing, feelings or not, it doesn't matter.

Tom 27-02-2008 05:19 PM

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But thats not how the majority of one night stands work.
I'm sure some of them work like that. I've known guys who have had one night stands after meeting a girl and spending loads of money on her.

I was simply tryng to show how 'normal' dating acts and one nights stands are not far removed from prostitution.
But most, not just in my circle of friends but shown through the media, do not have all of the spending money rubbish.

GiRTh 27-02-2008 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Tom_
But most, not just in my circle of friends but shown through the media, do not have all of the spending money rubbish.
So you agree that wining and dining a woman for sex is much the same as prostitution?

Dr43%er 27-02-2008 05:24 PM

If I was wining and dining it would be because I wanted to. Not to get sex.

Legend 27-02-2008 05:29 PM

I don't "agree" with the fact one night stands are worse than prostitution. However, I don't agree it's any better.

It boils down to pretty much the same thing ... having sex with a stranger. The only difference being is that prostitutes make a living out of it rather than climbing on their high horse and then pretty much doing it themselves. Neither is done out of love ... prostitutes do it for the financial gain, people who have one night stands do it for the sexual gain.

And no, I'm not calling people who have had one night stands prostitutes, I'm just saying they don't really have a right to look down on prostitutes.

GiRTh 27-02-2008 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by Dr43%er
If I was wining and dining it would be because I wanted to. Not to get sex.
Me too.

But the point is would you say that some men wine and dine for sex and some women feel they have a duty to give it up if they've been wined and dined. Thats kind of like prostitution.

Tom 27-02-2008 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
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Originally posted by Tom_
But most, not just in my circle of friends but shown through the media, do not have all of the spending money rubbish.
So you agree that wining and dining a woman for sex is much the same as prostitution?
Maybe. It depends on a few circumstances e.g. how long they have known eachother. But that doesn't go to say that most one night stands are worse than prostitution which is what you are implying.

GiRTh 27-02-2008 05:39 PM

I think some one night stands are as bad as prostitution but I feel its an individual choice. Personally, I think some men would be better off going to a prostitute than engaging in sex with a stranger.

I also feel the relationship in many marriages is similar to prostitution. We've all seen these older balding fat guys with their trophy wives. What do we think is going on there?

Tom 27-02-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
I think some one night stands are as bad as prostitution but I feel its an individual choice. Personally, I think some men would be better off going to a prostitute than engaging in sex with a stranger.

I also feel the relationship in many marriages is similar to prostitution. We've all seen these older balding fat guys with their trophy wives. What do we think is going on there?
Because they are loaded which is basically prostitution with a marriage certificate.

I agree that some one night stands are just as "low" as prostitution but I don't think the majority are.

GiRTh 27-02-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by GiRTh
I think some one night stands are as bad as prostitution but I feel its an individual choice. Personally, I think some men would be better off going to a prostitute than engaging in sex with a stranger.

I also feel the relationship in many marriages is similar to prostitution. We've all seen these older balding fat guys with their trophy wives. What do we think is going on there?
Because they are loaded which is basically prostitution with a marriage certificate.

I agree that some one night stands are just as "low" as prostitution but I don't think the majority are.
I agree with both points.

These trophy wives can never get on their high horse IMO.

I dont think the majority of one night stands are as bad but I think there is a lot of hypocricy regarding this subject. Not from you. You and others have been very frank and honest with your views - I respect that - but some people really do get on their high horse about prostitutes when at the end of the day they are indirectly paying or being paid for sex.

Ruth 27-02-2008 06:18 PM

I've never had a one night stand!! It's just not for me - but if other people want to, why should I be bothered? I had a friend I used to go out with a lot - she used to have a lot of one night stands...it didn't make me feel any differently about her as a friend at all, but I never fancied it myself.

Stu 27-02-2008 06:33 PM

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What is worse than a prostitute who gives out sex for money. In my book what is lower than prostitution are the one night stand merchants who do it like two dog that have just met in the street a complete stranger for nothing exept a drink and a pkt of crisps.
Rubbish. One night stands are from two people who have just met and have a genuine interest in eachother. A prostitute just has sex with whoever because if they don't they won't get paid. People who have one night stands have a real job and yes they usually end up regretting it the next morning but at the time it seems like the right thing to do, and nobody is forcing anybody to have sex or feeling pressured into it for money.
People who have one night stands are infinitely worse than prostitutes as they have no value on themselves. Just like dirty dogs with no sense or morals. Animal behavour by humans at its worst...
Dont make me laugh. Sex is great. Including casual sex. Casual sex includes one night stands. Theirs nothing at all wrong with them once their done right and safe. No value on themselves? Depends on opinion - not fact , which you seem to think you bear.

Kate.. 27-02-2008 06:37 PM

I don't have anything against prostitution, if someone wants to have sex for money, so be it. It's their choice.

Matt10k 27-02-2008 07:28 PM

A one night stand can be more honest than a lot of peoples relationships in my opinion.
People who stay in bad relationships, feel trapped in a marriage, stay with violent partners, stay for other reasons such as for children or money, not that honest really…

So as long as both people know what they want and make it clear that it's no strings, I really struggle to see how there is anything wrong with it or how it is like prostitution?!

I also don't think the majority of one night stands involve wining and dining. Usually, it'll be someone you meet in a club or bar and you're usually both ‘wined’ up by that point anyway!, unless you’re lucky enough to have someone like Dr43%er, in which case you both just make sure that’s all you want.

Again, fail to see how this is prostitution. Both people do it because they ‘want’ to and there’s no ‘payment’ involved, though I do agree with the trophy wife comment. That could easily be compared to prostitution but that’s not the same as a one night stand…

GiRTh 28-02-2008 01:58 PM

To clarify, I have not said that anyone is better than any one else. I feel there are many shades of grey. I do believe there is a great deal of hypocricy regarding sex, marriage, dating etc. To me there seem to be a lot of people who do think what they do is better but when stripped down they're no better than anyone else

Matt10k 28-02-2008 04:36 PM

Usually the ones that think they are better than everyone else are the ones saying it's wrong to have one night stands. They are the ones that put themselves up on a pedestal, when there is nothing wrong with a one night stand between two consenting adults.

Christina 28-02-2008 05:13 PM

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I don't understand what is wrong with two consenting adults having sex. If you're not hurting anyone else, then surely it is nobody else's business?
But its not for plesure isit... they are being paid and i dont think its right x

Stu 28-02-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Ruth
I don't understand what is wrong with two consenting adults having sex. If you're not hurting anyone else, then surely it is nobody else's business?
But its not for plesure isit... they are being paid and i dont think its right x
But the point still stands that it is hurting nobody. Their is no victim if it is performed right , hence there is no crime. And legalisation would go a long way in helping it be performed right.

Captain.Remy 28-02-2008 06:50 PM

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But the point still stands that it is hurting nobody. Their is no victim if it is performed right , hence there is no crime. And legalisation would go a long way in helping it be performed right.
If it is performed right so I can't see the problem but by legalising it we forget all these young girls who don't want to do that and are forced so the problem remains the same.
If we legalise it then we allow, in a way, the bad prostitution buisness and all those people who make money on their girls's back, and for me it's just sick.

Stu 28-02-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : Morpheus
But the point still stands that it is hurting nobody. Their is no victim if it is performed right , hence there is no crime. And legalisation would go a long way in helping it be performed right.
If it is performed right so I can't see the problem but by legalising it we forget all these young girls who don't want to do that and are forced so the problem remains the same.
If we legalise it then we allow, in a way, the bad prostitution buisness and all those people who make money on their girls's back, and for me it's just sick.
No girl is forced into prostituiton. And if they were , they would be forced in to something that in its present state breaks the law so I cant understand your argument.
Prostitution will always be around. Legal or not. And its the girls choice. I for one would rather she did it within a government monitored , legal industry than do it in the current setting.

Again , to quote the two words that in this case will win over any argument - personal choice.

Captain.Remy 28-02-2008 07:09 PM

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Message original : Morpheus
No girl is forced into prostituiton. And if they were , they would be forced in to something that in its present state breaks the law so I cant understand your argument.
Prostitution will always be around. Legal or not. And its the girls choice. I for one would rather she did it within a government monitored , legal industry than do it in the current setting.

Again , to quote the two words that in this case will win over any argument - personal choice.
No one is forced ? Please Stu, I don't know if you read or if you watch TV but it's well known that some girls are definately forced. Not most of the prostitutes but some are, and it's a fact.
Of course it could be a personal choice as I said in a previous post but you can't ignore the fact some are forced.
And of course it will be around, legal or not, it's the oldest profession in the History so it's not going to change.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be legalized, it's far from this but if the government does something, it should think about all those girls who don't want that.

Stu 28-02-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally posted by Captain.Remy
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Message original : Morpheus
No girl is forced into prostituiton. And if they were , they would be forced in to something that in its present state breaks the law so I cant understand your argument.
Prostitution will always be around. Legal or not. And its the girls choice. I for one would rather she did it within a government monitored , legal industry than do it in the current setting.

Again , to quote the two words that in this case will win over any argument - personal choice.
No one is forced ? Please Stu, I don't know if you read or if you watch TV but it's well known that some girls are definately forced. Not most of the prostitutes but some are, and it's a fact.
Of course it could be a personal choice as I said in a previous post but you can't ignore the fact some are forced.
And of course it will be around, legal or not, it's the oldest profession in the History so it's not going to change.
I'm not saying it shouldn't be legalized, it's far from this but if the government does something, it should think about all those girls who don't want that.
But if it is legalised it wont be forced! Thats the point im trying to make!The government can monitor all of this! Keep tabs on prostitution places of business! Keep it controled! Nobody will be forced!

Heck , nobody is forced to beign with! There are very few prostitutes who did not get themselves into it in the first place!

Captain.Remy 28-02-2008 07:17 PM

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Message original : Morpheus
But if it is legalised it wont be forced! Thats the point Im trying to make!The government can monitor all of this! Keep tabs on prostitution places of business! Keep it controled! Nobody will be forced!

Heck , nobody is forced to beign with! There are very few prostitutes who did not get themselves into it in the first place!
I'm not sure because look at all those girls who come from Russia and Eastern countries mainly who thought they were going to dance in West countries....and do you see where they are now ? They have been screwed up by those sick men who think about making money.

And I understand your point now lol I thought you were ignoring the buisness I'm trying to describe.

And it should be controled, absolutely but I think we have to see how it will work and so far, our societies aren't ready to legalise it.

Ruth 29-02-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by x-kween-dilemma-x
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Originally posted by Ruth
I don't understand what is wrong with two consenting adults having sex. If you're not hurting anyone else, then surely it is nobody else's business?
But its not for plesure isit... they are being paid and i dont think its right x
Why isn't it right? Something needs to be done about children - or anyone for that matter - being forced into prostitution. But if a woman chooses to be a prostitute, why is it wrong? Don't get me wrong - it's not something I could personally ever do, but why is it wrong for someone else to make that choice?


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