Diana is now 9-4 fave Paddy Power:thumbs: and 3-1 fave at Betfair

Yay, go Diana :elephant:

Yes I do. I can only play a recorder and the flute, but I could create a melody for a song. Then using a computer and a keyboard I could probably even arrange it and I know enough about music to know what works and sounds right. I didn't spend all the time at primary school and secondary school until I was 14 without learning something about music.

But then again may be you are right and she can't write her own songs but does that really matter?

There are lots of singers out there that don't write their own stuff, so what is the problem.

I think it is people want to compare her to other people, why can't she be her own person and appreciated for what she does.

I didn't know that. I'm amazed that none of them have played an instrument yet. You would have thought one of the would have done so by now.

Yes I did..... my dyslexia strikes again....... sorry :thumbs:

I'm sorry, I had no idea!

If that’s the case then why aren’t we all millions selling songwriters? You've oversimplified it a touch. It may be true that anyone can write a song but can anyone write an album, then follow that up with a 2nd album a year later, then a third album a year after that and so on and so on

It does matter that she doesn't write her own songs because, as I've pointed out a couple of times, I don’t think professional songwriters would write songs for her as opposed to much bigger better selling commercial artists. I just don’t see it.

I think if she can't write her own songs then she won't have much of a career in the music business.

No problem, you wouldn't I use a Apple Macbook and Safari has an inbuilt spell checker. :thumbs:

Because we can't be bothered and have other things to do in life. We all don't aspire to be singers or song writers. and I'm sure once yo have done your first song then the second would be easier and so on.

If you are a commercial song writer you not going to turn down work and not all commercial song writers can right for the big names. And any case does she want a established commercial song writer, what she probably needs is a songwriter that is starting their career can develop their style with hers.

I can't see why she needs to write her own stuff, she doesn't have to be a singer/song writer to be a success. Other people have made it in the past.

I think the whole idea of her writing her own stuff is because people seem to want her to emulate existing singers and thinking she can't compete unless she does, but how do you know she can't unless she tries.

No. It’s the other way round. It gets harder. Noel Gallagher has said that he thought, when he wrote Definitely Maybe, that he'd be writing albums like that for 20 years. Now fifteen years later he admits that he's struggling as a songwriter.

Like Guy Chambers did with Robby Williams? Unfortunately relationships like that are few and far between.

Who recently? Back in the sixties and seventies maybe but not these days. These day a vocalist needs to be outstanding - or win a 'talent' contest - to get away without writing their own material.

For me the reason why she has to write her own stuff is because I don’t think she can be taken seriously as an artist if she doesn't. Her vocals are not good enough.

Tbh she's good enough for the singles market. She doesn't need to play instruments, just record her voice!! She is obviously popular. I remain unconvinced.

Its not all about the vocals, its the full pop package, its the X factor, you might not like her but loads do and loads will probably buy into it

That's is Noel Gallagher's experiance of song writing that it gets harder as time goes on, it can't be everyones or people wouldn't do it for a living.

If it can work with Guy Chambers did with Robby Williams, why can't that sort relationship happen again, just because they are few and far between doesn't mean they can't happen, because clear it does.

The point she is different and that is why she could sing songs written for her and if people aren't happy she doesn't write her own stuff then they don't have to buy her albums. It's not compulsory.

The Noel Gallagher reference was just to emphasise someone who wrote a few songs, had a few hits and thought the whole thing was easy only to later find out song writing is a lot harder than they initially anticipated.

If she got herself a Guy Chambers i.e. someone who would help her write songs then I think she'll have a future but I don't see any other way she can survive.

I guess only time will tell.

But at the moment and until she leaves the X-Factor she will be a lovely contrast to all the belt it out girl singers.

At some point she's going to have to prove she can belt songs out too. Until then I think she's wildly overrated. Her vocal style is very stylised with little emphasis on vocal power and technique. Her only appeal seems to be her quirky nature. I think she needs more.

IMO, Diana has the X Factor, the looks, voice, stage precence, chrisma ect.

Everyone keeps telling you its not her only appeal, she looks like a star, shes cute and charismatic shes appeals to a wide range of people, she has a good voice, better than girls aloud who were well ropey saturday! and it doesnt matter if they dont belt out songs. They dont have to have the most technically perfect voice to have IT and make it in the pop world

That's my fear for Diana, I think she's very good but the quirkiness is hiding the fact she's not really shown much power to her voice. I thought her performance in week 2 was a cheap imitation of her performance in week 1. If she does something similar in week 3, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

thats the way she sings! and she doesnt need to be a mariah or a whitney, people like her voice the way it is, shes got character which some of them are sadly lacking! Technical perfect singing is not what its about!!

...and if you want to get technical JLS have been off key more than Diana who hasnt at all

But that is what she is, why should she try and be like the rest of them. She not that sort of singer and probably never will be.

Do we really need a world full of women singers that just belt stuff out?

Okay, she is going to have problems with some of the themes on the x-factor, but so is Laura with her voice which is more jazzy, but that is just the way the show works and in the end it won't affect the either girls career at the end of the day. It's just a game show.

I know, I like Diana, my point isn't how good her singing is, it's how she's picked two songs that have a similar tempo that have worked well with her voice - which is great. But Big Band Week is a tough one, and I'm struggling to come up with ideas about what she's going to sing this week. If she picks another slow song, people are going to see her as a one trick pony.

However, I really hope she's in the final 6 (I have 6 favourites at the moment. Haha.)

I agree with Z. Diana hasn't shown much true vocal talent so far. She needs to show that she can belt songs out, that she can sing vibrato, she can improvise while signing etc. I think Red is wrong Laura has shown many of those qualities where as Diana is still relying on her quirkiness.

You're right she could end up sounding the same ever week and it will be hard for her to up her game and that could be her downfall.

Like you I think that this week will be hard for her. I keep trying to think of a soft sounding big band songs and I can't think of any, but she not going to be the only one with this problem as Eoghan going to find it hard with his weak voice.

I agree with NettoSuperstar! Diana is who she is and she doesn't have to sound like mariah or a whitney. I think Girth is wrong for wanting to change her into something she isn't.

And as Laura she is a completely different type of singer than Diana and sings in a different style. It would be pointless try to make Diana sound like Laura.