Because when they get asked the hard questions they can't handle it, notice how he got more extreme towards the end?

And he claimed to be speaking for the moderate Muslims! No wonder they get involved in so many conflicts!

Thought i would post this video, watch it in full: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNVUB...ayer_embedded#

Shame you never see that in the UK lol

This is a christian country


dont like it

get the fuck out.

Yep, the ones that hate our goverment, hate the west, hate English laws, yes insist on living here

And many of them get paid by us the UK Tax Payers.

But question anything they do and you're a racist, question Islam and you're attacking the whole middle east, every brother and sister around the world

Im not defending extremists thats why Ive joined this group to oppose the march http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?...4445082&ref=mf (although I know you wouldnt want to join this one because its muslims and non muslims opposing together) and I know that does not compute with you, most muslims are not extremists and are just as pissed off about it as the rest of us...you continually want to suggest "they" are all the same!

Im talking about the twats marching ...as I pointed out, the law of the land fight terrorism not the EDL or the like...and most muslims despise the likes of Islam4UK as much as anyone else and I have provided plenty of evidence to suggest that (even though its just blatantly obvious to most people), you continually want to lump them all in together and refuse to believe that "they" arent all the same...whos lost all sense and rational perspective here???

See you can't have a debate with putting in silly sarcastic remarks can you?? Pathetic really.

I'm not saying that all Muslims support extremists, not at all, what I am saying is that there are a lot more do than you are prepared to admit, probably to yourself, nevermind to us.

And for those that genuinely don't - I do strongly believe they should stand up to them. They are much more able to do so here, than in Muslim countries. They as a group should regularly publicly denounce them and their actions. They should refuse to have anything to do with them - and families should disown family members involved. They need to take a stronger stance and voice their disapproval, to them and to us. They are of the same faith - and much more likely to get through to them than us! And if reason doesn't work - completely disown them.

Join the group then if you really want to do something about it, listen to some of the ordinary muslims on there

http://www.kentnews.co.uk/kent-news/...spx?news=local

Appalling.

Yet not suprising. Don't get your own way?? Why don't you start a riot, or issue a fatwah, or send death threads, you know, the typical peaceful Islamic way.

If this **** goes down, there's guna be riots..

Whats the current stand on it? How likely is it to happen?

Not sure at the moment. Some sources are saying they'll be banned from doing it, while others are saying they can't be banned...

I don't think think they can technically banned really, which is bad, they just don't seem to give a fuck

God, you should read the shite from his website.. it's unbelievable.

http://www.islam4uk.com/


Note: They've taken all the other pages offline. Only the page with the 'official statement' is still around.

The problem is.. if the powers that be don't ban this march, and it goes ahead, and there's a riot.. who's to blame?

Well they seem to stereotype anyone who questions Islam as a violent, working-class, stupid pisshead. That is why, and they won't get the blaim will they?? I have to talked to Americans and they laugh at us, cos we get pushed around and groups like 'Islam4UK' are allowed to exist. Why would you hate the EDL? They are the only ones doing anything about it, and fucking middle class students who stalk them and give them back press, and they don't have fucking clue what they're talking about. They don't live it, they don't see it, just sit in their nice comfy homes passing judgement.

If you speak out against Islam you get branded a racist. If Muslims speak out against everyone else, that's ok though.

If it happens, i'm liking the EDL's reaction.

Interesting video :thumbs:

I thought he made a good point when saying when the IRA were active, nobody would have let them stand in the middle of a square preaching.

Yeah, I liked that point. He comes across well to be fair. He doesn't come over like some of the BNP twats.

He tells it how it is basically, when people are afraid to say.

It's hardly surprising people are afraid to say.. look what's happening to the woman who organised the fb campaign..

Yep it's true actually, he is paraded round like some sort of god, and like he not, not met with angry muslims, but with handshakes. I'm sick of all this 'moderate' muslim bollocks

Some people on here act as if it's like 20 Muslims or something who are extremist. I reckon the youth are getting more and more drawn to it. they are angry, don't know where they belong. And so far it's been quite intelligent ones that have done it, wait until they find the less intelligent more violent, they also pray on young muslims in prisons and especially at unis.

There has always been 3 types of people in this country.

1. People who stand up against this kind of thing.
2. People who allow this kind of thing.
3. (The majority) - People who just go about their business and don't bother with any of it.

Unfortunately, the longer extremists are allowed to shove their views into our faces, the more likely the people in group #3 are to go to group #1.

That's when the problems will really start.

:thumbs: Very true!

Yep, pretty much so, it's not even a conspiracy, or a theory, or hate, it's actually happening.

It's getting beyond a joke.

No not quite, if you suggest that all or most muslims think the same way as Islam4UK then thats a very bigoted view of things...http://www.facebook.com/#/group.php?...4445082&ref=mf

The muslims you are talking about are a small minority!

The muslim secular society has **** loads more members than Islam4UK and the like...how can that be??...they all oppose democracy and want to enforce Sharia law on us! helllllpp the world isnt black and white!! my head is going to explode!

Yeh that group are not typical!!! how long does it take to see sense!...and the march has been called off due to public outcry including a strong muslim opposition...but the dickheads had too much exposure out of this already...he should be treated just like Nick Griffin and not given the time of day!

That Stupid Islamic Ponce
has now said it was a good PR move.


They are Not going to go there.

So Mrs.Netto
no more fighting InOne.

He should be arrested frankly. He was inciting racial hatred, and that's a crime.

Such a *****in sorry state of affairs. It's a pity that their pussy's don't stay sewn shut.

The media loves people like that though, it will always be a problem.

I dont understand why you dont give up, trying to convince 2 people who are what they are. Just like those extremists are a minority, the ignorant, not so bright, "lets put them all in one cathegory", type, are also a minority. Just let them be. :)
They dont bother me, as a muslim, dont let it bother you, as a non muslim.