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lostalex 02-08-2014 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7119698)
It's the golden rule... whoever has the gold makes the rules.

The rest of the world has far more "gold" (money and power) than the US and Israel.

Kizzy 02-08-2014 11:04 AM

'Documents obtained by The Independent showed that arms export licences worth £42 million have been granted to 130 British defence manufacturers since 2010 to sell military equipment to Israel, ranging from weapons control and targeting systems to ammunition, drones and armoured vehicles.

The Government said it was reviewing all licences to Israel, but a Labour MP said ministers were "burying their heads in the sand" over the issue of whether UK-manufactured weapons or components have been used in Gaza since the current round of hostilities began three weeks ago.'

British weapons killing kids on beaches... am I surprised?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?ncid=webmail1

arista 02-08-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7119894)
'Documents obtained by The Independent showed that arms export licences worth £42 million have been granted to 130 British defence manufacturers since 2010 to sell military equipment to Israel, ranging from weapons control and targeting systems to ammunition, drones and armoured vehicles.

The Government said it was reviewing all licences to Israel, but a Labour MP said ministers were "burying their heads in the sand" over the issue of whether UK-manufactured weapons or components have been used in Gaza since the current round of hostilities began three weeks ago.'

British weapons killing kids on beaches... am I surprised?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?ncid=webmail1



Yes Its a Business
to sell Israel HiTech Weapons

Are you saying Kizzy - all those workers to get Fired?

arista 02-08-2014 01:50 PM

[Early on Saturday, the Hamas military wing said in a statement
on its website that it was "not aware until this moment of a
missing soldier or his whereabouts or the circumstances of his disappearance".
The group said it believed the soldier might have been killed in a clash with
Hamas fighters about an hour before the start of the ceasefire
.
The Israeli military declined comment on the statement.]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...dier-ceasefire



Whats the truth here?

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-626x352.jpg
http://news.sky.com/story/1311786/de...ts-for-soldier

The American President has said its wrong to Kidnap him?
Has he got his facts right?

arista 02-08-2014 05:15 PM

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...s-prot-011.jpg
Bloated BBC is Pro Israel

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...za-palestinian

the truth 02-08-2014 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7119894)
'Documents obtained by The Independent showed that arms export licences worth £42 million have been granted to 130 British defence manufacturers since 2010 to sell military equipment to Israel, ranging from weapons control and targeting systems to ammunition, drones and armoured vehicles.

The Government said it was reviewing all licences to Israel, but a Labour MP said ministers were "burying their heads in the sand" over the issue of whether UK-manufactured weapons or components have been used in Gaza since the current round of hostilities began three weeks ago.'

British weapons killing kids on beaches... am I surprised?
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014...?ncid=webmail1

spot on, yet the bbc dont cover this properly , why?

Kizzy 03-08-2014 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7120171)
Yes Its a Business
to sell Israel HiTech Weapons

Are you saying Kizzy - all those workers to get Fired?

Make something else maybe, didn't we used to make planes, trains and automobiles?..
Not that making money is the issue here, but let's not let an ethical debate stand in the way of 'business'.

the truth 03-08-2014 04:26 PM

the israel jews have bombed another school today more innocent children butchered

Brother Leon 03-08-2014 07:56 PM



Oh dear.

the truth 04-08-2014 02:14 AM

radical judaism is the biggest threat to world peace

arista 04-08-2014 05:22 PM

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-626x352.jpg
Israel Resumes Assault On Gaza As Truce Ends

http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-778x437.jpg

http://news.sky.com/story/1312820/is...-as-truce-ends



The War that may never end

the truth 04-08-2014 09:13 PM

the only way it will end is when those jewish psychos drop the bomb.....then afterwards oif theres anything left of the planet, the world will win back its right to criticize them without being called racist.

billy123 04-08-2014 10:21 PM

Nobody is innocent in this mess. One side is suffering more though thats for sure but that doesnt clear them of any blame.
Walking through Manchester today hearing pro Hitler chants from a group of Free Palestine protestors aimed at a Jewish family owned Jewellers shop while the police just watched on turned my stomach. The family looked terrified locked inside with children.
This is in ****ing Manchester what have they done to deserve that. What has Manchester got to do with this conflict?
I felt so angry watching this play out.

The Hatred is so ingrained in both sides i dont see how it can end.
Israel hold most of the power surely its up to them to make the move towards ending it even under such provocation it has to be them that make a big step first but lets not underestimate the amount of provocation they are under.

the truth 04-08-2014 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7128929)
Nobody is innocent in this mess. One side is suffering more though thats for sure but that doesnt clear them of any blame.
Walking through Manchester today hearing pro Hitler chants from a group of Free Palestine protestors aimed at a Jewish family owned Jewellers shop while the police just watched on turned my stomach. The family looked terrified locked inside with children.
This is in ****ing Manchester what have they done to deserve that. What has Manchester got to do with this conflict?
I felt so angry watching this play out.

The Hatred is so ingrained in both sides i dont see how it can end.
Israel hold most of the power surely its up to them to make the move towards ending it even under such provocation it has to be them that make a big step first but lets not underestimate the amount of provocation they are under.

your trivial tale is wholly irrelevant compared to 1000s of innocents murdered on the streets

billy123 04-08-2014 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7129352)
your trivial tale is wholly irrelevant compared to 1000s of innocents murdered on the streets

And who's opinion is relevant when compared to the deaths of anyone? Not your one eyed rubbish thats for sure.
There is just no need for it if you dont like it dont reply to it with a silly little sarcastic comment just ignore it.
Im flattered that you stalk me round the board and launch these petty attacks every few days but i made my feelings towards you quite clear a couple of days ago and thats not going to change any time soon.
Sorry Hun you are out of luck. :hehe:

the truth 05-08-2014 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7129413)
And who's opinion is relevant when compared to the deaths of anyone? Not your one eyed rubbish thats for sure.
There is just no need for it if you dont like it dont reply to it with a silly little sarcastic comment just ignore it.
Im flattered that you stalk me round the board and launch these petty attacks every few days but i made my feelings towards you quite clear a couple of days ago and thats not going to change any time soon.
Sorry Hun you are out of luck. :hehe:

who hell are you? ive literally never noticed a word youve ever said, no offence....im talking about israel palestine and the end of the world, you seem to be talking about yourself which is a significantly smaller topic thats of zero interest.

billy123 05-08-2014 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7129674)
who hell are you? ive literally never noticed a word youve ever said, no offence....im talking about israel palestine and the end of the world, you seem to be talking about yourself which is a significantly smaller topic thats of zero interest.

Oh dear dont be so angry hun just try sticking to the topic.
It is very amusing that you claim not to know me when you pointlessly report my posts so often that it wastes peoples time on here.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/436...-hee-hee-o.gif

billy123 05-08-2014 06:16 AM

Lets hope the ceasefire holds this time.
Although its not a big first step this time that in my opinion needs to be taken to try and fix this at least the deaths might slow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28654229

the truth (ironic name imo) might have had nothing but hate to offer to my previous post but the point was what i saw in Manchester yesterday just made me pause and re-evaluate what was happening instead of getting caught up in the purely pro Palestine fervour that seems to be the cool thing to do just now it just made me realise how much hate was coming from both sides.

Heres the group i saw and the dickhead guy that i saw spouting off yesterday at about 1:55 in the video he was 1 of 50 that were spewing the same hate.


Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 08:54 AM

where do hamas get all the money for the rockets?

lostalex 05-08-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7130340)
where do hamas get all the money for the rockets?

Iran i'm guessing. (probably Russia too)

arista 05-08-2014 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7130340)
where do hamas get all the money for the rockets?


They are gifts from America

Other nations like Qatar
get them from USA for their own stock
but they,
then give loads free to Hamas

lostalex 05-08-2014 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7130483)
They are gifts from America

Other nations like Qatar
get them from USA for their own stock
but then give loads free to Hamas

and the UK isn't a mass arms dealer on the international stage? if you you are gonna start calling out arms dealers you must talk about the UK, BRO.

arista 05-08-2014 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7130488)
and the UK isn't a mass arms dealer on the international stage? if you you are gonna start calling out arms dealers you must talk about the UK, BRO.



Sure arms are sold from the UK to Israel



But Americas missiles end up being fired at Israel
as other nations give the free to Hamas

MTVN 05-08-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

The oil-rich Gulf state of Qatar’s influence has been widely felt during the ongoing Israel-Hamas conflict. While traditionally closely aligned with Iran, Hamas has pivoted to Sunni powers like Qatar and Turkey in recent years for economic and political support. Keen to expand its regional and international influence, Qatar’s ties to the Palestinian terrorist group have drawn increasing criticism from Israel, the United States, and even fellow Arab states like Egypt and Saudi Arabia, who accuse Qatar of undermining regional stability by supporting Hamas.

“Qatar is a very strange place. They rely on the U.S. for protection and invest heavily in the U.S.,” said Jonathan Schanzer, vice president for research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies (FDD), noting that the U.S. has its largest Mideast airbase—Al-Udeid Air Base—in Qatar.

“[But] at the same time, just miles away from [the airbase], you can find the head of Hamas (Khaled Mashal), and there was even a Taliban embassy there for a while too. All of these things make for a foreign-policy anomaly,” Schanzer told JNS.org.
With the war raging in Gaza, Israeli leaders have begun to single out Qatar for its support of Hamas. During a meeting with U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on July 23, now-former Israeli President Shimon Peres slammed Qatar for becoming “the world’s largest funder of terror.”
http://themoderatevoice.com/197426/g...Moderate+Voice)

Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7130495)

and lets also give them the world cup as a reward

:facepalm:

the truth 05-08-2014 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7130257)
Lets hope the ceasefire holds this time.
Although its not a big first step this time that in my opinion needs to be taken to try and fix this at least the deaths might slow.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28654229

the truth (ironic name imo) might have had nothing but hate to offer to my previous post but the point was what i saw in Manchester yesterday just made me pause and re-evaluate what was happening instead of getting caught up in the purely pro Palestine fervour that seems to be the cool thing to do just now it just made me realise how much hate was coming from both sides.

Heres the group i saw and the dickhead guy that i saw spouting off yesterday at about 1:55 in the video he was 1 of 50 that were spewing the same hate.


are you justifying bombing hospitals and UN buildings and schools killing 100s and 100s of children?

id rather question israel at this stage, they have the power the bombs the money the US / UK support, theyre abusing their power on a massive scale

id rather question israels disgusting tactics, its far better than the populist radical pro zionism that got us into this mess to start with .........everyone knows theres 2 sides....the trouble is israels actions are totally disproportionate totally inhumane and ultimately self defeating...

Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 05:46 PM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aa6_1407249013

Hamas Assembles and Fires Rockets outside hotel
Hamas putting journalists, hotel guests and other civilians in danger.

the truth 05-08-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7131643)
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aa6_1407249013

Hamas Assembles and Fires Rockets outside hotel
Hamas putting journalists, hotel guests and other civilians in danger.

toy rockets that have only killed 1 person, compare dto the 1400+ bombed by the israels? even if hammas fires a toy rocket, the reaction to bomb hospitals schoools and UN buildings is 100 times too disproportionate, immoral, illegal and self defeating

billy123 05-08-2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7131668)
toy rockets that have only killed 1 person, compare dto the 1400+ bombed by the israels? even if hammas fires a toy rocket, the reaction to bomb hospitals schoools and UN buildings is 100 times too disproportionate, immoral, illegal and self defeating

That thing is no toy ffs.

Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7131668)
toy rockets that have only killed 1 person, compare dto the 1400+ bombed by the israels? even if hammas fires a toy rocket, the reaction to bomb hospitals schoools and UN buildings is 100 times too disproportionate, immoral, illegal and self defeating



that, i am afraid, is not how war works

GypsyGoth 05-08-2014 06:31 PM

It's a tough situation, neither side is in the right.

The fact that Hamas knows Israel can kick their ass, well maybe they shouldn't provoke them. It's like having to live in the same cave as a bear, yet you continually prod the bear with a stick. And from what I know the Israel army are one of the best trained in the world.

Hamas should stop firing in rockets and try it's best to protect the citizens who voted for them.

Livia 05-08-2014 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth (Post 7131793)
It's a tough situation, neither side is in the right.

The fact that Hamas knows Israel can kick their ass, well maybe they shouldn't provoke them. It's like having to live in the same cave as a bear, yet you continually prod the bear with a stick. And from what I know the Israel army are one of the best trained in the world.

Hamas should stop firing in rockets and try it's best to protect the citizens who voted for them.

That's a great post Gyps.

The eyes of the world are on Gaza, and the sympathy of the world is with the ordinary Palestinians trying to protect themselves and their families. if Hamas stopped the madness now there would be immense international pressure on Israel to stand down. Sadly I don't think that will happen.

the truth 05-08-2014 06:41 PM

its time for the israelis to give the palestinians their rights and their land and their right to be a country instead of terrorising these poor victims of their cruel opporession...israel is morally in the wrong from the start, it begins and ends with that fact.

billy123 05-08-2014 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7131835)
its time for the israelis to give the palestinians their rights and their land and their right to be a country instead of terrorising these poor victims of their cruel opporession...israel is morally in the wrong from the start, it begins and ends with that fact.

Firing rockets at them wont achieve that.

the truth 05-08-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 7131861)
Firing rockets at them wont achieve that.

i agree....neither does diplomacy and 200+ countries voting for palestine to be a nation in its own right....the palestinians cant win theyve had their land and country stolen, their rights taken, their freedoms destroyed, their families either butchered and murdered or disabled for life.....and why? why do the poor palestinians have to pay for the sins of the nazis? how does that equate?

Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7131812)
That's a great post Gyps.

The eyes of the world are on Gaza, and the sympathy of the world is with the ordinary Palestinians trying to protect themselves and their families. if Hamas stopped the madness now there would be immense international pressure on Israel to stand down. Sadly I don't think that will happen.

Absolutely. If they were smart they could use the public to achieve their aims - the heartstrings are a far more powerful weapon than the rocket

dont poke the bear

Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7131874)
i agree....neither does diplomacy and 200+ countries voting for palestine to be a nation in its own right....the palestinians cant win theyve had their land and country stolen, their rights taken, their freedoms destroyed, their families either butchered and murdered or disabled for life.....and why? why do the poor palestinians have to pay for the sins of the nazis? how does that equate?

Israel is a reality

move on

the truth 05-08-2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7131892)
Israel is a reality

move on

to what? world war 3? its a disastrous reality.....palestine is also a reality that needs to become a nation

Crimson Dynamo 05-08-2014 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7131902)
to what? world war 3? its a disastrous reality.....palestine is also a reality that needs to become a nation

my advise to them is stop firing rockets you did not pay for at Israel

then

start talking and the world will listen

the truth 05-08-2014 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7131918)
my advise to them is stop firing rockets you did not pay for at Israel

then

start talking and the world will listen

your sentence makes no sense.


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