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Crimson Dynamo 29-04-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7726207)
Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?

I think the whole thing (her reporting it, not taking a different road etc) tells you a lot more about her tbh

We only have her word for the blocking thing. She seems to be, as i said before, a piece of work.

Any other girl would have ignored, it, changed route, told them to feck off etc

but for some reason she decided to go to the police who rightly told her to do one in a polite and official manner

No one is excusing the oiks but oiks exist and she needs to get a bit more street savvy and realistic

also maybe get her hair styled :umm2:

Crimson Dynamo 29-04-2015 03:14 PM

and welcome to kitchenspoon

Niamh. 29-04-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7726251)
I think the whole thing (her reporting it, not taking a different road etc) tells you a lot more about her tbh

We only have her word for the blocking thing. She seems to be, as i said before, a piece of work.

Any other girl would have ignored, it, changed route, told them to feck off etc

but for some reason she decided to go to the police who rightly told her to do one in a polite and official manner

No one is excusing the oiks but oiks exist and she needs to get a bit more street savvy and realistic

also maybe get her hair styled :umm2:

We're going round in circles here LT.

Crimson Dynamo 29-04-2015 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7726257)
We're going round in circles here LT.

:fist: well go a different route


and put those boobs away

:hehe:

Niamh. 29-04-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7726272)
:fist: well go a different route


and put those boobs away

:hehe:

:laugh:

kitchenspoon 29-04-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7726207)
Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?


If it's ongoing i can understand that it would be annoying, especially with men ogling at her and undressing her with their eyes. However, as i mentioned, there were many options available to her before contacting the police. By all accounts it appears none of these avenues were explored. If she felt uncomfortable physically walking on site, or perhaps turning around and asking them to stop, the majority of sites have board up with company names, numbers and so forth. It's evident she has a phone, and it's evident she knows how to use it so surely she could of made a phone call?

Yes i am a guy, and i have a daughter, and obviously being a father, i'd be uncomfortable hearing men wolf whistling at my daughter, i would be even more annoyed if it was consistent. However, manners cost nothing, and nor does asking other people politely that something is not welcome. You'd be surprised how accommodating the regular jo can be when a stranger doesn't like something.

I live in a world where wolf whistling is natural and an acceptable part of society, it's is complimentary, and if seen as anything else other than that has lived in a box for the last century.

This is a snippet of information on the origin of the wolf whistle...

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The wolf-whistle originates from the navy General Call made with a boatswain's pipe. The general call is made on a ship to get the attention of all hands for an announcement. Sailors in harbour would whistle the general call when seeing a pretty woman to draw fellow sailors' attention to her. It was eventually picked up by passers-by, not knowing the real meaning of the whistle, and passed on. Over time, the precise tones of the general call were flattened somewhat into the wolf whistle common today.[citation needed] Today, cat-calling or wolf-whistling can be considered a form of sexual harassment.
The action of wolf whistling is really down to interpretation. I see it as a way to get a womans attention and let her know that i like her, i think she's pretty and such. Many would agree with this.

Crimson Dynamo 29-04-2015 03:28 PM

where is her dad. If it was my daughter I would have phoned the boss of the site and told him. but not before asking her to just go a different way

Niamh. 29-04-2015 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kitchenspoon (Post 7726279)
If it's ongoing i can understand that it would be annoying, especially with men ogling at her and undressing her with their eyes. However, as i mentioned, there were many options available to her before contacting the police. By all accounts it appears none of these avenues were explored. If she felt uncomfortable physically walking on site, or perhaps turning around and asking them to stop, the majority of sites have board up with company names, numbers and so forth. It's evident she has a phone, and it's evident she knows how to use it so surely she could of made a phone call?

Yes i am a guy, and i have a daughter, and obviously being a father, i'd be uncomfortable hearing men wolf whistling at my daughter, i would be even more annoyed if it was consistent. However, manners cost nothing, and nor does asking other people politely that something is not welcome. You'd be surprised how accommodating the regular jo can be when a stranger doesn't like something.

I live in a world where wolf whistling is natural and an acceptable part of society, it's is complimentary, and if seen as anything else other than that has lived in a box for the last century.

This is a snippet of information on the origin of the wolf whistle...



The action of wolf whistling is really down to interpretation. I see it as a way to get a womans attention and let her know that i like her, i think she's pretty and such. Many would agree with this.

Is it really a natural and acceptable part of society anymore though? I don't know tbh. Now look, as I said it wouldn't bother me that much personally if it were just whistling but I know if it happened to me I would think "****ing idiots" rather than "Oh wow I must look amazing today" :laugh:

You know up until not that long ago grabbing your secretaries ass was perfectly acceptable too (I watch Mad Men you know :P )

As for whether or not she should have went to the company first rather than the Police, that's debatable, if a person is feeling intimidated or harassed, the first port of call is usually the police not the persons employer :shrug:


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