to which sites do you refer and to what posts show far right leanings?

Would you give it more credence were it the sun?

I am surprised at the Indie running it, now wonder its closing

Trump has often attacked the losers and then everybody wonders why the losers are voting for him. Trump has answered this by shouting out at his rally, "The Mexicans are here raping all your women and the Muslims are here to blow you all up", aww so that's why they are losers, get rid of the Mexicans and Muslims and they won't be losers anymore. Trumps one hell of an expert in the art of scapegoating.

If you are going to put a controversial direct quote in you need to put the link in as well?

so can we get the link to that statement?

This place always reminds me of this Disney song.:joker:

[QUOTE=Johnnyuk123;8550892]This place always reminds me of this Disney song.:joker:

It would be lovely to get your thoughts and reasons Johnny. Sorry but I don't think I've ever seen you actually debate a topic so I'm being serious here.

dont forget red you have 2 questions to address

Barbara Rez who won the first Apprentice and went on to work for him says this:

"Trump really appeals to people who feel some measure of shame for harbouring prejudices.
He makes them think it’s OK and nobody challenges him."

[QUOTE=DemolitionRed;8550897]All your posts are negative no matter what thread you are in so there is no point in me or anyone on here trying to debate with someone so blinkered and negative. Having a delault setting of being negative doesn't encourage debate at all on any platform, all it does is close it.

Donald Trump’s Economic Appeal to Poor Whites

Donald Trump has latched onto a zeitgeist and identity that forms a large part of the fabric of our nation. We’d like to say that this sullied portion of the fabric is the strain of racist and bigoted segregation that we’d hoped America had moved beyond. And while this unfortunate reality is central to Trump’s appeal, the explanation for Trump’s rise is a bit more complex, but equally as troubling and regularly overlooked.

The root connector of Trump’s supporters and the vile ascension of his campaign may reside in the combination of, on the one hand, the antiquated notions of property, status, and class that Americans originally brought with them from the Old World, and on the other, the racist, segregated, and oppressive structures Americans established in the New World.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...or-whites.html

You mean I don't agree with the posts that you agree with? :joker: negative or not, at least I give people something to debate.

Ah ok, I get it. You see anyone who disagrees with the people you agree with as negative and because the people you agree with are already debating with the people you disagree with, you don't need to add anything other than the odd applaud...for the people you agree with obviously, whilst ignoring the ones you disagree with.

so far you have made 2 posts you cant back up

1. which members are far right
2. link to that quote from DT


not exactly a great record

See what i mean...
You always assume what others think (then post it as a matter of fact) and look to the negative first then try to mock the individual rather than respond honestly on what was just posted to you. Something which YOU asked me to do for you. This is a perfect example of how you view others posts on here and more importantly how you respond to them. Yet you wish to debate with others when your post back to me just now shows that you have no interest at all in debating with me or anyone but yet you are very open to insulting others on here. :shrug:

Yes Johnny


Make America Great Again


Rock On
President Trump

EH :conf: unless you are agreeing with DR that you find anything other than your own point of view as negative then i have absolutely no idea what you are on about. :joker:

No, you are assuming that I assume but that's merely your assumption.

I asked you for your opinion and you came back telling me you didn't want to debate with me because I'm so negative. I asked you your thoughts, you gave them to me and those thoughts of yours included direct insults at me.

I wasn't asking you to debate with me, we are on an open forum so whatever you put in here is open for debate by all members. I wasn't asking for a pm of your opinion, I was asking for your public input into a topic that is being shared with half a dozen people.

Now you're suggesting I'm very open to insulting others on here? really...REALLY?!? why haven't I been warned about this? why haven't I had temporary bans? geez man, you must live a sheltered life if you think my words are insulting but its not that is it? I insult you because you don't like the way I think.

With deference to the universal laws of Supply and Demand - Hate him or Love him, Trump MUST be supplying the type of political solution a lot of Americans are now Demanding. He would NOT be where he is now if that was NOT the case.

As for "Why are Brits on this forum so interested in Trump" or variations on that theme - Hate the USA or Love it, the UK has always had a universally recognised and accepted 'Special Relationship with that country, and it is ridiculous for anyone to question why some of us are 'interested' in someone who may well be running that country as its next President.

Did we NOT have 'Human Rights' BEFORE we were conned into joining the EU?

Or do you mean that insane shambles of a Court The Court of European Rights in Strasbourg and its bewildering laws - so beloved of Foreign Murderers, Rapists, and Terrorists because they afford them a 'STAY OUT OF JAIL FREE' card as well as a 'STAY FREE TO ROAM BRITAIN AND COMMIT FURTHER CRIME INSTEAD OF BEING DEPORTED' card too?

You know - dangerous Anti-UK Islamic Terrorists such as Abu Qatada, who BEYOND DOUBT inspired terrorist attacks on the United Kingdom, but yet CANNOT be deported to stand trial in Jordan because of the 'Human Rights Act'.

And any ONE of the 4,000 Foreign Criminals - including Child Rapists and Murderers who we also cannot DEPORT because of that same Act.

You know - the 4,000 foreign criminals LET LOOSE BACK ONTO BRITISH STREETS - SOME OF THEM TO REOFFEND AGAIN WITHIN WEEKS - by 'Home Secretary' Theresa May in 2013, because of The 'HUMAN RIGHTS ACT'.

The Democratically Elected UK Government WANTED to DEPORT these scum but COULD NOT because of our BRUSSELS OVERLORDS and their HUMAN RIGHTS SHYTE ACT has MORE POWER than our COURTS and OUR GOVERNMENT.



IS THIS REALLY THE 'HUMAN RIGHTS' YOU ARE CRYING FOR IF WE EXIT THE ATROCIOUS EU AND REGAIN CONTROL OF OUR OWN LAWS AND JUSTICE?

No one gets away with breaking forum rules concerning personal insults and baiting, more than those with far left views - of which exclusive club -- you are a member.

He's basically doing what the Nazi's did in their rise to power, they created a scapegoat out of the Jews in order to try unite Germany against a common 'threat.' Trump's doing it now but instead of Jews, he's targeting Immigrants and Muslims.

Trump supplies nothing but hot air, he's a failure of a business man who's only as rich as he is because of his family's wealth, it's not self made and he'd certainly be broke without it due to the fact that most of his business ventures have failed. He's a reality star trying to play at being President, everything about him is fake and overemphasised for the cameras, he has no political sense, he's got no sense of diplomacy and he appeals to the lowest common denominator and he is an idiot. I do not understand why anyone would want someone with the intellect of an amoeba to run the most powerful country in the world.

His place is on TV, engaging in manufactored drama with D-list celebs. to elect him would be like electing a Kardashian or a member of Duck Dynasty.

This donald trump guy looks like some oriental-asian man who has had his hair and face bleached in poisonous acid

what a weirdo

I have watched trump all week and the debate and he never mentions immigrants

"intellect of an amoeba"

well some how he is is both more successful and richer than you will ever dream of


so?

:hehe:

Right, we should scrap the human rights act because people who have already faced justice can't be deported, forgoing all other rights and protections offered within the act for all UK European nationals?
Sorry that idea is a bit crackers.

Your posts become more confused and confusing daily.

I never advocated scrapping the Human Rights Act - It was NOT me but YOU yourself who said that Human Rights would be in the bin when we leave the EU:

Originally Posted by Kizzy View Post
"Oh don't worry all that will be in the bin along with human rights when we leave the EU."

The Human Rights Act is a piece of malignant shyte which is all too easily abused by scumbags, and the Court of Human Rights increasingly more bizarre decisions ruling IN FAVOUR of those scumbags, illustrates more than anything else, that the sooner we exit the corrupt EU and restore our own SANE laws and justice, the better.

I notice how you describe the bastards highlighted in my post as "people who have already faced justice" though - "PEOPLE" - REALLY? Fecking scumbag subhuman CHILD RAPISTS are NOT 'People'.

This is MY country as well as yours, and I will fight to my dying day to ensure that it does NOT become the type of country which the insane Extreme Left would have it become.

ISIS are less dangerous than the Extreme Left - in my opinion.

Yes it will be in the bin due to people like yourself only equating it with cases such as that, I'm not going to allow you to suggest you feel more strongly about that disgusting crime than I do simply because you disagree with the act of parliament keeping him here. :/
Is it only the extreme left that want the human rights act?... Why are you bleating to me about extreme left?

This is interesting and gives some insight into his surge in support.

:joker:

...I guess that Trump's the American Dream really...(obviously if it's just ignored, his many financial privileged advantages in life that he had no personal part in..)..we'll just forget those for a moment and say that he's the All American Dream, the very ethos of America and the land of opportunity as all men are created equally etc...well, apart from the Mexicans/Muslims and ethnic minorities etc, they need to know their place really because they're not part of Trump's All American Dream...maybe a few will be part of it actually if they're lucky enough, but only in the very lowest paid of jobs that Donald and his all American Dream Team people need workers who are just so very grateful to them for the privilege and honour of living in America, the land of opportunity...isn't that what made America great and a 'vision' to all of those fresh face immigrants stepping foot for the first time and looking up to the Statue of Liberty, like we see in the movies...the USA, no class system where anyone can achieve, where anyone could become 'a Trump'....none of your bugger off please and we're building a wall...he goes against everything suerely that America has ever stood for/the very ethos that has made it great and the power that it is in the world....


..it's not about jealousy, it's about respect for...I have no interest in the amount of money someone has made in their life, how amazing a business person they are etc...it's about how they treat people, the respect they have for people in the priveledged and 'successful' lives that they lead...I don't want to hear from big executives who work for Donald Trump, telling me how great he is, those with the highest paid jobs in his company...I want to hear from those people who do clean his toilets...(as he's mentioned in the past with Mexican workers..)..the very 'lowest' of his emplyees.and hear what a great employer he is from their mouths... that he respects them equally as he does, his big fat salaried employees....he has no 'success' as a human being at all so far as I'm concerned unless he has success in character, in the person he is, not what his financial achievements are...that imo is what is needed from any potential President of the USA...

..the land of unequal opportunity, the good old United Trumps of America../Donald's world....

Excellent post and it sums up just about all I feel as to this individual too.

Trump isn't a fascist in the classic sense, but he's certainly not a conservative and I can only imagine the depths of his dislike for the left. He's a man who is comfortable with violence at his rallies, he plays heavily on those he considers his countries enemy as a threat to the nation, his foreign policy is ridiculously patriotic, and he's appealing to national chauvinism.

Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used, and so its no surprise he's being likened to that monster. Is he another Hitler though? when you understand the fundamental principles of fascism, its clear that Trump is as close to fascism as you'll get with a popular movement in the US in 2016.

"Trump is using similar tactics the nazis used,"


evidence please

I have to report this hateful post:nono:

he never said any of that, youre lying again:nono:

Red if you can't provide a link no one will believe you anymore

Making g up hateful stuff like that is actually illegal

more lies...what about the millions of illegal immigrants? what are you going to do about that? Let me guess like all radical liberals, youd do nothing. even after we see 33000 innocents murdered around the world by terrorists infiltrating endless countries, plus the drugs imports, the crime, and the violence they bring...and yes some illegal immigrants are rapists too.

yes welcome to the world of radical liberalism...where all free speech is banned unless youre abusing a white man lol

Fascism, while invariably being far-right and authoritarian in practice, is just as opposed to traditional liberal capitalism as it is to the revolutionary left, and isn't particularly fond of conservatism. It's radical in that it aims to abolish existing hierarchies, but at the same time wants to institute new ones based on merit within rigid ethnic and ideological parameters. It's extremist nationalism where working class struggle and bourgeois sociopolitical prerogatives are pushed to the side so that everyone of the right racial and cultural background can come together behind a romanticized notion of "the people" as manifested in the national leader.
A short history of fascism


Like I said, Trump isn’t a conservative and he’s certainly not left thinking. He’s against liberal capitalism and wants to ditch free market economy for nationalism and this is what makes him close to the above quote.

When I said in my other post that Trump appears to be comfortable with violence at his rallies and he puts huge emphasis on the ‘other’ as a threat to the nation, Hitler did this too. There are similarities.

double post