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Brillopad 08-06-2017 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9342929)
I don't know if you've noticed, Brillo, but there are actually people in those other countries too :think:. Apparently you think it's "safer for the many" to deport them to another country and say "Oh well lol whatever they're not here now" than it is to keep them where we can actually keep an eye on them...

A reasonable question at least. I see what you're saying but it's natural to think of you and yours and I have no delusions that those other countries would not do the same in the same situation. If we can do more to protect ourselves we should.

Jack_ 08-06-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9342931)
Are you trying to say we have no terrorists amongst us. You can 'okay' to hell and back but if you can't answer a straight question with a straight answer then your allegations are everything you are trying to accuse me of.

No, I was merely alluding to the fact you accused me of 'exaggeration' and 'putting words in people's mouths' and then in the next breath wrote 'if you want to live amongst known terrorists'. You couldn't have made a bigger jump.

Tom4784 08-06-2017 12:56 PM

Brillo going back to her 'if you don't agree with me you're basically a terrorist sympathiser' schtick when her silly suggestions about essentially bringing back exile (and taking the very North Korean approach of punishing multiple generations in the process) is shot down because it's not realistic, possible or even a good idea? I'm shocked.

People with a British passport or citizenship are our responsibility to bring to justice, the idea of desperately looking for an excuse to hand people over to other countries is laughable and wrong. The level of extremism from certain right wing members in this section is getting rather worrisome.

Brillopad 08-06-2017 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9343015)
Brillo going back to her 'if you don't agree with me you're basically a terrorist sympathiser' schtick when her silly suggestions about essentially bringing back exile (and taking the very North Korean approach of punishing multiple generations in the process) is shot down because it's not realistic, possible or even a good idea? I'm shocked.

People with a British passport or citizenship are our responsibility to bring to justice, the idea of desperately looking for an excuse to hand people over to other countries is laughable and wrong. The level of extremism from certain right wing members in this section is getting rather worrisome.

My posts do not justify attempting to call me a right-ring extremist. That is ridiculous.

People have talked of the possibility of deportation of TERRORISTS (seems necessarry to highlight that word) for some time now including the government. I was suggesting a viable way that maybe that could be achieved. I know you will never agree with it that but don't you dare try to use this to call me a right-ring extremist.

And btw I never suggested you were a terrorist sympathiser, you took it that way to suit. So you think I have implied that so you get your revenge by calling me a right-wing extremist. I have never committed a terrorist attack in my life thank you - and you talk of boundaries.

And no need for the 'her' - if you want to make such comments then have the decency to address me personally rather than say 'Brillo, going back to her....'. Weak, putting it mildly.

:nono:

user104658 08-06-2017 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9343066)
My posts do not justify attempting to call me a right-ring extremist. That is ridiculous.

People have talked of the possibility of deportation of TERRORISTS (seems necessarry to highlight that word) for some time now including the government. I was suggesting a viable way that maybe that could be achieved. I know you will never agree with it that but don't you dare try to use this to call me a right-ring extremist.

And btw I never suggested you were a terrorist sympathiser, you took it that way to suit. So you think I have implied that so you get your revenge by calling me a right-wing extremist. I have never committed a terrorist attack in my life thank you - and you talk of boundaries. :nono:

I wouldn't call you a right-wing extremist because you don't have the power to actually enact any of your bizarre fantasies. But I don't think it would be unfair to suggest that you are a... right-wing extremist sympathiser? You promote and express admiration of extreme right-wing measures, surely?

Brillopad 08-06-2017 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9343074)
I wouldn't call you a right-wing extremist because you don't have the power to actually enact any of your bizarre fantasies. But I don't think it would be unfair to suggest that you are a... right-wing extremist sympathiser? You promote and express admiration of extreme right-wing measures, surely?

By deporting terrorists! In what other way have I demonstrated being a right-wing sympathiser? :shrug:

You lean left I lean right - no extremism involved on either side, unless of course you have something substantial to substantiate such a bizarre comment. :shrug:

Tom4784 08-06-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9343066)
My posts do not justify attempting to call me a right-ring extremist. That is ridiculous.

People have talked of the possibility of deportation of TERRORISTS (seems necessarry to highlight that word) for some time now including the government. I was suggesting a viable way that maybe that could be achieved. I know you will never agree with it that but don't you dare try to use this to call me a right-ring extremist.

And btw I never suggested you were a terrorist sympathiser, you took it that way to suit. So you think I have implied that so you get your revenge by calling me a right-wing extremist. I have never committed a terrorist attack in my life thank you - and you talk of boundaries.

And no need for the 'her' - if you want to make such comments then have the decency to address me personally rather than say 'Brillo, going back to her....'. Weak, putting it mildly.

:nono:

You are not a politician, mentioning the word 'terrorist' at every opportunity won't adhere people to your views, nor will suggesting that anyone who thinks differently has sympathy towards terrorism. Don't deny you've not insinuated that because you have.

Nothing you have suggested is viable, We can't force people out of the country and onto other countries because of a vague ancestral link. You only think it's viable because you don't understand international law.

Also because you seem quite confused on the matter, extremist does not always equal terrorist. Katie Hopkins is an extremist, Richard Spencer is an extremist, UKIP is half full of extremists, Trump is an extremist etc. None of them will commit acts of terror but they are still extreme in their views.

user104658 08-06-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9343081)
By deporting terrorists! In what other way have I demonstrated being a right-wing sympathiser? :shrug:

You lean left I lean right - no extremism involved on either side, unless of course you have something substantial to substantiate such a bizarre comment. :shrug:

The concept of deporting 3rd generation immigrants to non-specific countries of "genetic and cultural origin" as a counter-terror measure. Supporting armed soldiers being on our streets. Advocating the removal or reducation of civil liberties in exchange for "keeping us safe". The idea that every Muslim immigrant is responsible for curbing the actions of extremists. None of these are just "right leaning", Brillo, at least have the courage of your convictions.

Kazanne 08-06-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9342920)
Exaggeration and putting words in people's mouths as usual. What does that achieve - nothing.

If you want to live amongst known terrorists that is your choice but guess what most don't and we have to live here too. Your views don't just affect you but everyone else as well. So you know what you can do with your inflammatory allegations don't you!

Are there no ISIS terrorists in Britain then, are none of us at risk of harm - or is it all just a figment of my hateful imagination. Waste of time.

Really don't know why you bother Brillo,it's no good having a different opinion on here.come and have a cuppa you gobby mare,LOL

bots 08-06-2017 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9343127)
Really don't know why you bother Brillo,it's no good having a different opinion on here.come and have a cuppa you gobby mare,LOL

i think its important that all avenues are explored so that everyone has a deeper understanding of how things work, and what we can do to resolve the situation. Its not like we don't all want a solution

Kazanne 08-06-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9343297)
i think its important that all avenues are explored so that everyone has a deeper understanding of how things work, and what we can do to resolve the situation. Its not like we don't all want a solution

I agree BOTS,I just feel brillo is shutdown by some on everything she posts,it's not needed,and not nice,we are all entitalled to a differening opinion infact it makes the forum more interesting,I just feel a few hostile tones.:wavey:

Brillopad 08-06-2017 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9343127)
Really don't know why you bother Brillo,it's no good having a different opinion on here.come and have a cuppa you gobby mare,LOL

Anytime Kaz!:hee:

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 9343302)
I agree BOTS,I just feel brillo is shutdown by some on everything she posts,it's not needed,and not nice,we are all entitalled to a differening opinion infact it makes the forum more interesting,I just feel a few hostile tones.:wavey:

Disagreeing with someone does not equal shutting someone down. Brillo has made some strange suggestions, like deporting British people to countries they're not from, you have to expect some people to respond to that pretty strongly

Brillopad 08-06-2017 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9343092)
The concept of deporting 3rd generation immigrants to non-specific countries of "genetic and cultural origin" as a counter-terror measure. Supporting armed soldiers being on our streets. Advocating the removal or reducation of civil liberties in exchange for "keeping us safe". The idea that every Muslim immigrant is responsible for curbing the actions of extremists. None of these are just "right leaning", Brillo, at least have the courage of your convictions.

Nothing substantial in that little list. Is that it?

Commonsense determines we need armed soldiers on the streets at the moment, how you manage to describe that as right-wing is beyond me. And nothing wrong with people feeling Muslims should speak up more against ISIS.

If you really feel any of the above are right-wing extremism maybe that's because you must be at the other extreme and that's why such views seem so far out there to you.

Brillopad 08-06-2017 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9343074)
I wouldn't call you a right-wing extremist because you don't have the power to actually enact any of your bizarre fantasies. But I don't think it would be unfair to suggest that you are a... right-wing extremist sympathiser? You promote and express admiration of extreme right-wing measures, surely?

What power is there in being a terrorist - just a gang of armed thugs who target innocent unarmed people. I wouldn't call that power - just cowardice.

Niamh. 08-06-2017 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9343332)
What power is there in being a terrorist - just a gang of armed thugs who target innocent unarmed people. I wouldn't call that power - just cowardice.

I don't think he was suggesting that you don't have the Power to become a terrorist.

user104658 08-06-2017 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9343332)
What power is there in being a terrorist - just a gang of armed thugs who target innocent unarmed people. I wouldn't call that power - just cowardice.

I'm not "bigging up terrorists" ffs, just pointing out that you're (thankfully) not in a position where you can actually influence or further your bizarre hard right "bloodline exile policy".

Brillopad 08-06-2017 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9343406)
I'm not "bigging up terrorists" ffs, just pointing out that you're (thankfully) not in a position where you can actually influence or further your bizarre hard right "bloodline exile policy".

Hard right, if you say so.

user104658 08-06-2017 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9343588)
Hard right, if you say so.

I do say so and, if we've learned anything from the last couple of months on Tibb, it's that I'm always right.

Or that you're always... Err... right.

Brillopad 08-06-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9343718)
I do say so and, if we've learned anything from the last couple of months on Tibb, it's that I'm always right.

Or that you're always... Err... right.

Oops forgot you're the font of all knowledge - in your head anyway. Dream away.


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