i agree with you on the Wayne thing that was a bit out of order

Absolutely awful.

Beyond all decency and not in any way worthy of a scrap of support.
It really should be seen as assault.

...yeah it was montblanc and I don’t defend that...but for for the most part, he’s respectful and communicates his opinions well, even in explaining the perspective of others if they have been upset or annoyed etc...which is why I feel, this wasn’t his ‘typical’ behaviour and for whatever reason, feeling very heightened emotions that evening...

Surely it would be today..should have been then too. Electroshock treatment should never ever have been a thing. Plus this was on a ****ing 12 year old. Whoever did that should have been jailed for child abuse tbh

when someone has a background of voting against certain LGBT rights & then they roll their eyes, make faces, etc. at anything to do with the LGBT what makes you think the LGBT person wouldn't get offended? It's the context. And you can't use Jess or Ashley as examples because they aren't gay.

& it isn't about "having a sense of humor" because even though I strongly dislike Ann I can admit she has a lot of funny moments through out the series

She does this at nearly everything though, its not only LGBT stuff. Any human contact, any expression of love/emotion, any swearing (even light language), any mention of being drunk, any request from BB to do a task, any noise while she is wanting quiet, any innuendo...anything at all :laugh:

..no, I’ve known it to be used quite recently, in the last few years.../..not for homosexuality I have to say, for severe depression...

Shock treatment is still going? Jesus...

Absolutely right Vicky.
That was despicable what was carried out there.

..the situation I know of was for bipolar.../.she eventually committed suicide...so well, it didn’t work..those awful shocks she went through...

Ann rolls her eyes at loud music ,what phobic is that or is it an "ist" And the last time i looked there was no law against rolling your eyes

oh i think you misinterpreted my post. I wasn't saying that Ann doesn't have the right to her opinion/votes in the parliament, I was explaining why Shane J. would feel a type of way towards Ann because of her voting history.

I did read that she had a detained retina ,I wonder if that affects her facial expressions sometimes.

the context.

Ann rolling her eyes at loud music is different from rolling her eyes listening to a conversation between two gay men uplifting each other about their sexuality especially with her history in the parliament.

Lots of people who have bi-polar commit suicide,I know someone who did,it must be an awful thing to have, to get that low

Not if she does it all the time

it'd be different if the conversation was a joke but it was pretty serious conversation. it doesn't take a genius to figure out that she was rolling her eyes at their conversation topic & it's not as if she rolls her eyes for fun either :skull:

Exactly the same roll :idc:

ok we'll just agree to disagree i guess

Jesus you're really not going to drop it are you?

Ann rolls her eyes at EVERYONE, therefore it is not a homophobic action. Fact.

Not going to change no matter how many times you say it.

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alright

That racist spits on ALL non-white people so he's not discriminating ALRIGHT!!!

Big Brother edits those eye rolls in.

I knew it!

I could see the pixellation on her face where the CGI fades in.

Oh please, if it was a programme about Gay rights, LGBT or other serious issues you would be right.

But it is not, it is an entertainment show. So many just want to feel morally superior whilst not knowing the basics of why, how, what Ann's reasons were, just that they want to score antiquated points.

So what if you are right, slap on the back, well done, you have surely shown it to Ann, good for you, hurray, and millions more of plaudits for showing little old Ann just how magnanimous you are when bringing up her past, voting records, mariage status, sexual habits and the kitchen sink.

OK noted, understood, underlined, gold star, woohoo, does it change anything which hasn't already been changed? A big fat NO. Will Ann change her mind Another big fat NO, will it bother Ann, yet another big fat NO.


CBB is a television reality show, the theme is the Year of the Woman, not Gay Rights, LGBT agendas and one Drag act.

There were many housemates who haven't whined on and on for something which they have already received. Gays have got it, what's the problem?

No, Gays are seriously in jeopardy of looking like they cannot accept what they already have and will instigate a witch hunt after an elderly woman who broke no laws, served her constituents as a MP for years and voted for her religious beliefs.

I salute those posters who have said they are Gay but will not let Shane's rabble rousing on social media and LGBTs agendas stop them from leading a very full & happy life and would abhor what has been happening in their name.

One last point, those who attack Ann at every turn might be very surprised that life does not begin and end in what's in your pants. It is only a part of life and one which seems to consume those who presumably are sexually active anyway, what more do you want? Demand demand demand, is all I have read on here, you do as we say or you are this or that. No we are not, you can't make us it by name calling or labeling. Some of the childish posts on here are pitiful, just pitiful yet they think we will say, Yes of course you are right. What might happen is that Gays could face a backlash because of their demands.

They are not the biggest group in the population yet by anymeans, yet make the loudest noises. There is a thing called a silent majority which is happy to accommodate all people, races, orientations and opinions, but to push them too far by the sort of behaviour that has gone on recently could very well be to the detriment of everything achieved by those who worked so hard to achieve them over the years.

It was assault.

The **** he told me as an 18 year old I was so shocked.

He went on to be Mr gay UK though so good for him.....the **** he described to me is like something you see on american horror story.

How can we support any of these issues? This isn't directed at you Vicky just at everyone I know if one of your children turned out gay you as a good person would not endorse them being made to have 1950s style electric shock treatment.

Ive loved how housemates have been able to talk freely this year it's made it a social experiment again but Ann to me is the female version of hitler.

Amazing ... post of the day award to you my lovely :flowers:

So now Ann has killed people has she?

What an atrocious statement.

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I didn't say people should do that though [emoji23]

probably

she looks the type

Ffs I was comparing her to someone who had a grudge against a certain group of people which Ann has allways had.

I never said Ann killed people infact Hitler got his followers to do it.

I think we can both agree that Ann's views on curing gays is backwards! No?!

Any valid comment as to the horrific content of the account of the poster's friend and what happened to him.

Or is it easier to just deflect from the things Ann actually has appeared to support such as this vicious so called therapy.

Deflection, ignorance, selective memory.

This thread reminded me of the scene in Bruno where he talks to a conversion therapist (or might have been ex-gay) but I couldn't find the clip and found this instead :laugh: it's pretty funny so I thought I'd post it

I dont see it your way sorry.
I only see him as wrong for not going to Ann directly.

Other than that as someone else said, the previous night Wayne had mouthed off against Ann.

Wayne inferred he felt Shane would have liked him to approach Ann on the rights issue but Wayne clearly said to Amanda that Shane had not asked him to.
Shane misguidedly possibly thought Wayne may have sided with him.

Also,I have myself,come across a fair number of people who need possibly,or seek support for their position before raIsing possibly contentious issues with others.

We disagree on his reasoning.
I just neither see him being really vindictive or bad.

Misguided as to his hopes and wrong to not just go to Ann directly.
That to me is all I concluded,I saw little to really get at him for on it.

Post of the decade

If you're homophobic, you're homophobic. No matter the reasons.

You can writer 12 essays on her reasons. It doesn't change the fact.

:joker:

Maybe you need conversion therapy to stop your homophobia?

Me and Ann are content thank you.