Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9920965)

So now we have 23 British diplomats expelled from Russia with further threats from May and Putin.

The Chemical Weapons Act page 9, section 2, clearly states that evidence (as proof) must be available, so how is May refusing the Russian embassy requests to collect evidence?

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9920982)

Genuine question here DR, why are you so keen to see things from a Russian perspective, when its UK citizens that have been attacked?

I lived and worked in Russia, have many good Russian friends, but I still side with the UK in the face of an outrageous attack

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9920864)

Surely thats emotional blackmail though?

You could just as easily ask do you want to risk your children being affected by another hit on the streets of the UK by not responding?

No one wants armed conflict, no one has suggested it yet as I understand but we have a military to be prepared to protect citizens.

If using military grade nerve agents on our soil on a busy street is not a reason to lock down and protect citizens then what is? (Disclaimer obviously if it can be proven to have been a government ordered hit)

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9921010)

That's the point... It hasn't been proven, you can't condemn one man for saying what he did, even if every one else is throwing their hands up in outrage because at the minute he has every right to make that point as there is no evidence to the contrary.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 9921010)

That's the point... It hasn't been proven, you can't condemn one man for saying what he did, even if every one else is throwing their hands up in outrage because at the minute he has every right to make that point as there is no evidence to the contrary.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9921044)

You have a one-track mind Brillo. This issue is not about May or Corbyn and the obsession (not just from you, from many people, including the tabloid media) with trying to make it about May/Corbyn/Tories/Labour politics is bizarre.

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9921027)

Weren’t you accusing Russia of interfering in the American elections because you didn’t support Trump?

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 9920587)

I see your point but the trouble is that this fits into a long pattern of Russian behaviour which has been going on for years. I think everyone agrees now that they were behind Litvinienko but there's also been numerous suspicious deaths that they were probably responsible for both in this country and abroad. But every time it happens they just react with sarcasm and sneer at any suggestion they were involved. A lot of their reaction is pure trolling. It's not just assassinations either, look at stuff like the passenger plane that was shot down over Ukraine where everything pointed to it having been shot by the Russian backed rebels on the ground but Russia kept on denying everything and put forward a load of dodgy evidence that a Ukrainian jet had shot it down instead. And they've been caught trying to pass off video game footage as 'evidence' in the past as well

Basically they just can't be trusted to take any incident like this seriously so it's pointless to indulge any of their excuses

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 9921046)

I didn't condemn him, I queried his use of language? As none of us or the media are privy to the intelligence gathered and no military action has been threatened to my knowledge I felt it was an inflammatory thing to say to the public. Not one of us outside of the government has a say in this and trying to whip up opposition by pulling on people's heartstrings seems wrong to me.....although the fear mongering from some tabloids also deserves derision too.

This whole situation is a mess, there are far too many what ifs, buts and maybes

Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 9921783)

Don't believe they destroyed everything.


In other news British intelligence services warn that a cyber attack by Russia on British financial system or utilities may be coming
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...reprisal-grows

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 9921840)

I don’t know.I heard an interview with the Russian ambassador to Britain saying that a cyber attack from Britain would be seen by Russia as an act of war.
If that’s how they consider it,Would they do it to us?Basically declaring war.
Unless maybe we’re doing it to them?May did say that there might be other measures which she can’t discuss publicly.
Scary.