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Cherie 26-07-2018 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10109077)
What's so inappropriate about a boy in a wig dancing around in an outfit that looks like something someone would wear to a job interview for Primark? It's not like he's running around wearing straps and humping the scenery.

By all accounts, the teachers and pupils were happy enough for him to perform. From what I can gather with this story it was the head, who after receiving a list of acts, that had the problem. The teachers didn't raise concerns but this head made a decision based on her own ignorance.

If the performance didn't raise concerns with anyone who supervised the rehearsals then that should say more as to the content of the performance than what is an incomplete view on drag itself. The bull**** excuses about it being illegal (completely false) are just ways for the head to try to justify her hypocrisy. She was uncomfortable with a drag act and so she canned his performance, that's more likely then her truly believing it would be illegal.

The fact she had the gall to say, in the same statement that the school was a welcoming place for all is a joke.
We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it

Ammi 26-07-2018 05:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109485)
For kids in school who seemingly dont judge people..which is backed up by half the contestants pulling out in solidarity..then using wigs, make up and clothing to impersonate someone who has inspired you should be allowed....like johnny did and i do.
...sorry who is Johnny, Parmy..and which contestants pulled out in solidarity against Lewis’ drag queen act...?...it was the head’s decision it wouldn’t go ahead and only his/her decision so far as I know...all of the rehearsals leading up to proved no objection to it from either other staff or other students..?...

Jordan. 26-07-2018 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109487)
We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it
Quote:
His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul.

He was planning to wear a floral co-ord top blazer and skirt from eBay, high heels his grandmother brought him, and a long silver wig.
It's in the OP hon

Tom4784 26-07-2018 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109480)
Im sure the same look can be achieved with make up...but that would be ok with you?..for gay johnny..to impersonate a black bloke with make up to make him look like this bloke, cause the blokes gay.
You can keep repeating the same sentiment with a leading intent but you aren't going to get a different answer.

You are clinging on to a lie that this kid was dressed up as Rupaul and worst of all, you know it's a lie. You are spreading misinformation in order to falsely strengthen what is a flimsy point that you are trying to make.

This kid is not imitating Rupaul and contouring your face to change the shape of it can never be compared to blackface with a straight face.

I'm going to say this again in the hopes you don't ignore it for a third time.

Anyone can dress up as a black character, like how Miley Cyrus dressed up as Lil'Kim, the problem arises when they use blackface to do so.

Tom4784 26-07-2018 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10109494)
It's in the OP hon
Also you see him in full drag on the This Morning clip provided.

Ammi 26-07-2018 05:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109487)
We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it
...I can’t say I’ve ever known any talent contest or any type of production in any school ever without rehearsals and all staff and students involved knowing what the acts are, Cherie and having seen them all...it all has to be timed and scheduled...

Cherie 26-07-2018 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10109494)
It's in the OP hon
the operative words there are 'songs that included' do you have the full set list hun

Cherie 26-07-2018 05:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109502)
...I can’t say I’ve ever known any talent contest or any type of production in any school ever without rehearsals and all staff and students involved knowing what the acts are, Cherie and having seen them all...it all has to be timed and scheduled...
what has that got to do with anything Ammi? I never said they didn't know at the school, I said Dezzy didn't know, all we have is a quote from the parents....

Beso 26-07-2018 05:40 PM
This is old news fgs..the kid was on this morning..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/r...-back-12977965


He impersonated rupaul dezzy..read it in black and white in the op...

Cherie 26-07-2018 05:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10109500)
Also you see him in full drag on the This Morning clip provided.
He can dress anyway he likes on This Morning its not like he couldn't change his look :suspect:

Beso 26-07-2018 05:42 PM
His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul....


Rest assured, he dressed up as rupaul to lip sync his track.

Ammi 26-07-2018 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109506)
what has that got to do with anything Ammi? I never said they didn't know at the school, I said Dezzy didn't know, all we have is a quote from the parents....
..the article said it was a decision made by the head at the last minute when he received the acts that were happening...so all rehearsals, all content etc had, had no objections from other students, other staff involved or any parents that may have been aware of the drag act through their child...so in essence all involved through the rehearsal process had felt the act was appropriate and fine for the talent contest...

Jordan. 26-07-2018 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109504)
the operative words there are 'songs that included' do you have the full set list hun
Yeah I'm sure they failed to mention he would be dancing to Little Mix followed by deepthroat by Cupcakke

Matthew. 26-07-2018 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10109515)
Yeah I'm sure they failed to mention he would be dancing to Little Mix followed by deepthroat by Cupcakke
omg :joker:

Tom4784 26-07-2018 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109487)
We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it
Jordan covered the 'what he was wearing' point well enough so I'm gonna tackle the last bit.

Drag is not just for clubs and adults, there's a thing called Drag Queen Story Time that's picking up steam in loads of places where drag queens read stories to kids plus you get shows that are suitable for all ages that take place at festivals and stuff too.

There's more than one side to drag. Sure you've got the club scene but you've also got the art and make up scene where queens will show off the pure artistry they can pull off with a makeup brush. the previously mentioned kid friendly stuff, cosplay and the geeky side of things etc. The drag scene is wide and all encompassing and there's something for everyone really. I think the view that it's all sexually focused and inappropriate is quite an old fashioned outlook on it.

Beso 26-07-2018 05:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109514)
..the article said it was a decision made by the head at the last minute when he received the acts that were happening...so all rehearsals, all content etc had, had no objections from other students, other staff involved or any parents that may have been aware of the drag act through their child...so in essence all involved through the rehearsal process had felt the act was appropriate and fine for the talent contest...

Thats why his fellow students walked out in solidarity..

Beso 26-07-2018 05:47 PM
Ps, school talent shows just need a brave student to walk on and show the talent, they dont need to do a dress rehersal...

Bones 26-07-2018 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109518)
Thats why his fellow students walked out in solidarity..
:joker::joker::joker:

Ammi 26-07-2018 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109518)
Thats why his fellow students walked out in solidarity..
..so then if they did that, they weren’t being non-judgemental, Parmy...they were very much being judgemental and that is essentially bullying behaviour which should never be condoned by a school...which is what I thought your post referred to..?...I’m seriously confused..

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 05:49 PM
as i thought

not one dissenting voice about Dezzy's disgusting attack on the head


shame on all of you


too busy taking easy pot shots at Parmy



brave

Beso 26-07-2018 05:51 PM
Can someone tell ammi the other performers were in solidarity with lewis.

Cherie 26-07-2018 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109514)
..the article said it was a decision made by the head at the last minute when he received the acts that were happening...so all rehearsals, all content etc had, had no objections from other students, other staff involved or any parents that may have been aware of the drag act through their child...so in essence all involved through the rehearsal process had felt the act was appropriate and fine for the talent contest...
Yes and as you well know the buck stops at the head teachers desk, good and bad

Cherie 26-07-2018 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109526)
..so then if they did that, they weren’t being non-judgemental, Parmy...they were very much being judgemental and that is essentially bullying behaviour which should never be condoned by a school...which is what I thought your post referred to..?...I’m seriously confused..
Solidarity with the student Ammi :laugh:

Bones 26-07-2018 05:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109523)
Ps, school talent shows just need a brave student to walk on and show the talent, they dont need to do a dress rehersal...
This

The Slim Reaper 26-07-2018 05:53 PM
Thread: Teenage drag queen banned from performing at school talent show
TIBB: It's just like blackface
Me:

https://media.tenor.com/images/0559b...0cc5/tenor.gif

Cherie 26-07-2018 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10109527)
as i thought

not one dissenting voice about Dezzy's disgusting attack on the head


shame on all of you


too busy taking easy pot shots at Parmy



brave
Its so easy to do other people jobs isnt it?

Ammi 26-07-2018 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109485)
For kids in school who seemingly dont judge people..which is backed up by half the contestants pulling out in solidarity..then using wigs, make up and clothing to impersonate someone who has inspired you should be allowed....like johnny did and i do.
...ahhh, I get you now Parmy..(sorry..)..a drag queen isn’t someone who uses wigs, make-up and clothing to impersonate someone else...it’s an expression of part of themselves, they don’t ‘impersonate’ in any way as such...I can sing songs which were recorded by black singers because I feel the songs and I like to sing them..someone on a talent show can do that as well...but faces don’t have to be blacked to do it, to perform a song...there is a fundamental difference..

Beso 26-07-2018 05:54 PM
Im ok..my ignore list is massive.

Tom4784 26-07-2018 05:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109509)
This is old news fgs..the kid was on this morning..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/r...-back-12977965


He impersonated rupaul dezzy..read it in black and white in the op...
You're actually wrong. It says he was inspired by Rupaul's Drag Race and it was the headteacher that said he was imitating Rupaul in order to falsely strengthen her point that it was inappropriate. He never says he wanted to appear as Rupaul.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109510)
He can dress anyway he likes on This Morning its not like he couldn't change his look :suspect:
Yes, I'm sure he was planning to rip off the outfit to reveal a sheer naked glittery bodysuit underneath... You asked for pictures, you got them. You can't try to discount them with a strawman theory because they don't suit your opinion. You can't scream fake news at things you don't want to hear.

Also finally, the teachers okayed his look and his performance, do you really think it would have taken until the night before for the head teacher to take action if his performance contained anything inappropriate? Be honest with yourself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109513)
His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul....


Rest assured, he dressed up as rupaul to lip sync his track.
That makes no sense. To perform a song you have to be dressed up as the artist? Did he have five costume changes planned so that he could also appear as each member of Little Mix and Ariana Grande to suit your strange criteria?

Ammi 26-07-2018 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109531)
Can someone tell ammi the other performers were in solidarity with lewis.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109533)
Solidarity with the student Ammi :laugh:
..:laugh:...yeah because they’re pretty smart cookies to realise the act was completely appropriate in content...the head could learn from them...

Beso 26-07-2018 05:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109537)
...ahhh, I get you now Parmy..(sorry..)..a drag queen isn’t someone who uses wigs, make-up and clothing to impersonate someone else...it’s an expression of part of themselves, they don’t ‘impersonate’ in any way as such...I can sing songs which were recorded by black singers because I feel the songs and I like to sing them..someone on a talent show can do that as well...but faces don’t have to be blacked to do it, to perform a song...there is a fundamental difference..
I get that..but still dont see a problem with it as long as you aint being derogatory....its like everyones saying there is something wrong with black faces:shrug:

glibberglobber 26-07-2018 05:58 PM
This boy's school day is 8:40 - 2:45 :idc:

how much education is that in a day

:clap2:

Beso 26-07-2018 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10109539)
You're actually wrong. It says he was inspired by Rupaul's Drag Race and it was the headteacher that said he was imitating Rupaul in order to falsely strengthen her point that it was inappropriate. He never says he wanted to appear as Rupaul.




Yes, I'm sure he was planning to rip off the outfit to reveal a sheer naked glittery bodysuit underneath... You asked for pictures, you got them. You can't try to discount them with a strawman theory because they don't suit your opinion. You can't scream fake news at things you don't want to hear.

Also finally, the teachers okayed his look and his performance, do you really think it would have taken until the night before for the head teacher to take action if his performance contained anything inappropriate? Be honest with yourself.



That makes no sense. To perform a song you have to be dressed up as the artist? Did he have five costume changes planned so that he could also appear as each member of Little Mix and Ariana Grande to suit your strange criteria?
No..because to me it looks like he was impersonating ruapaul, impersonating little mix n ariana.:shrug:

Ammi 26-07-2018 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10109532)
Yes and as you well know the buck stops at the head teachers desk, good and bad
..we also know that heads don’t always make good decisions as well, Cherie...and when those decisions reach the media like this one because of their flimsy and dubious quality...then they’ve opened their school up to criticism...

Amy Jade 26-07-2018 06:02 PM
When I was in primary school our whole school went to theater clwyd every christmas to see a panto and I remember regularly seeing people in drag in the roles* and and none of us were confused. It's just an act.

I sort of see this kid doing his thing as similar and see no harm at all in him doing his act (which he had edited to remove risky words and apparently removed whole sections of songs to avoid anything bad being utterd. Sounds to me like the head has just banned him without seeing anything.

* not just men as women either I have seen Peter Pan as a girl and a girl playing Aladdin.

Cherie 26-07-2018 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109557)
..we also know that heads don’t always make good decisions as well, Cherie...and when those decisions reach the media like this one because of their flimsy and dubious quality...then they’ve opened their school up to criticism...
Of course like everyone in every job they make good and bad decisions I would say whichever way he went on this one someone was going to have a moan, I wouldnt do his job for all the tea in china, keeping parents and their little darlings happy 5 days a week...shudder

Cherie 26-07-2018 06:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 10109562)
When I was in primary school our whole school went to theater clwyd every christmas to see a panto and I remember regularly seeing people in drag in the roles* and and none of us were confused. It's just an act.

I sort of see this kid doing his thing as similar and see no harm at all in him doing his act (which he had edited to remove risky words and apparently removed whole sections of songs to avoid anything bad being utterd. Sounds to me like the head has just banned him without seeing anything.

* not just men as women either I have seen Peter Pan as a girl and a girl playing Aladdin.
Panto is inspired by fairytales though

glibberglobber 26-07-2018 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10109557)
..we also know that heads don’t always make good decisions as well, Cherie...and when those decisions reach the media like this one because of their flimsy and dubious quality...then they’ve opened their school up to criticism...


This was a good decision.

Tom4784 26-07-2018 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10109555)
No..because to me it looks like he was impersonating ruapaul, impersonating little mix n ariana.:shrug:
Lemme get this straight. You are saying this guy in this look

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2...2259120187.jpg

is simultaneously impersonating the following six people's looks?



It's just not realistic.

Crimson Dynamo 26-07-2018 06:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper (Post 10109535)
Thread: Teenage drag queen banned from performing at school talent show
TIBB: It's just like blackface
Me:

https://media.tenor.com/images/0559b...0cc5/tenor.gif
all you seem to do is take one posters comments and then say its all Tibb

again and again like you have some big point to make


are you ok?

idgi :shrug:


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