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Oliver_W 24-10-2019 04:35 PM

Apparently the steps the Joker danced down in the Bronx have become quite a tourist attraction! That could be a boon for the area - put up some nice pubs/cafes/restaurants/hotels/apartments, make it more upmarket :)

LaLaLand 25-10-2019 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10700820)
Apparently the steps the Joker danced down in the Bronx have become quite a tourist attraction! That could be a boon for the area - put up some nice pubs/cafes/restaurants/hotels/apartments, make it more upmarket :)

Yeah and the local residents aren't happy about it! :skull:

They're worried what you said may come true and they don't want that, they want The Bronx to stay authentically "rough around the edges" and sort of old school New York, no fancy stuff. :joker:

Oliver_W 25-10-2019 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LaLaLand (Post 10701086)
Yeah and the local residents aren't happy about it! :skull:

They're worried what you said may come true and they don't want that, they want The Bronx to stay authentically "rough around the edges" and sort of old school New York, no fancy stuff. :joker:

Bit selfish of them :( if people are going to travel to see the Joker Steps, there should be other things there as well!

Marsh. 25-10-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10701253)
Bit selfish of them :( if people are going to travel to see the Joker Steps, there should be other things there as well!

If people are travelling to see a set of steps, maybe take your own refreshments.

user104658 25-10-2019 12:26 PM

There would be a magical irony in Joker - a movie about societal rejection and disenfranchisement - sparking a small gentrification in The Bronx :hehe:.

However it would be a terrible business prospect; the film is only just out, it's not going to be drawing tourists in a year, let alone in 5.

Tom4784 25-10-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 10699399)
I don't know how much my tastes reflect general audiences, but I couldn't stand any of the DC movies apart from Wonder Woman and Shazam, and Aquaman was okay. For the shows I really like Arrow, I'm mehh about Titans, I like Watchmen, and I don't like Batwoman. (not yet seen whatever ones I've not mentioned)

I never really read reviews, so if that in any way correlates with the public, or especially awards-deciders Joker might be in luck :joker:

Aquaman was robbed of a lot of technical nods, the film is a 7/10 but it deserved recognition in the technical categories.

Wonder Woman was amazing but was undercut by Greta Gerwig, sadly.

There's always been an imbalance of how the media looks at the MCU and DC, DC have had missteps but there's a fair few MCU films that are at best, mediocre that never really got branded as such. You get more clicks from positive MCU stories and a lot more clicks about negative DC stories than good ones which is why Joker's pretty much been the victim of a massive push by the media to push it into the mould of a story they want it to be.

Jordan. 06-11-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Babayaro. (Post 10690584)
Did he kill his neighbour then?

We have the answer to this now

Spoiler:

Joker director Todd Phillips has revealed that he originally filmed a scene that confirmed Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur Fleck didn't kill Zazie Beetz's character in the movie.

While the filmmakers have previously made it clear that Sophie Dumond (Beetz) survived, Phillips has now said that the film was initially going to feature a cutaway to Sophie watching Arthur's climactic interview with former idol Murray Franklin (Robert De Niro).

Considering his talk show appearance happened a couple of days after she'd discovered an uninvited Arthur in her apartment – and it hauntingly transpired that he'd been imagining their romance – the shot would have proved that neither she, nor her daughter, had met their untimely end in that instance.

Ultimately however, Phillips decided to cut the short scene from the movie because he wanted to maintain the film's narrative structure and also ensure that it was always told from the Clown Prince of Crime's point of view.

"He doesn't kill her, definitively," Phillips said during an interview with IndieWire. "As the filmmaker and the writer, I am saying he doesn't kill her. We like the idea that it's almost like a litmus test for the audience to say, 'How crazy is he?'

Marsh. 06-11-2019 09:56 PM

Didn't he come out of her apartment covered in blood? Icr.

Babayaro. 07-11-2019 07:45 AM

Good. I didn't think he did, seeing as he only really killed those who he thought had done him wrong/treated him badly.

Tony Montana 07-11-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10706908)
We have the answer to this now

Spoiler:

Joker director Todd Phillips has revealed that he originally filmed a scene that confirmed Joaquin Phoenix's Arthur Fleck didn't kill Zazie Beetz's character in the movie.

While the filmmakers have previously made it clear that Sophie Dumond (Beetz) survived, Phillips has now said that the film was initially going to feature a cutaway to Sophie watching Arthur's climactic interview with former idol Murray Franklin (Robert De Niro).

Considering his talk show appearance happened a couple of days after she'd discovered an uninvited Arthur in her apartment – and it hauntingly transpired that he'd been imagining their romance – the shot would have proved that neither she, nor her daughter, had met their untimely end in that instance.

Ultimately however, Phillips decided to cut the short scene from the movie because he wanted to maintain the film's narrative structure and also ensure that it was always told from the Clown Prince of Crime's point of view.

"He doesn't kill her, definitively," Phillips said during an interview with IndieWire. "As the filmmaker and the writer, I am saying he doesn't kill her. We like the idea that it's almost like a litmus test for the audience to say, 'How crazy is he?'

I do wish they hadn't revealed what had happened. I loved how it was left open to interpretation.

Tony Montana 07-11-2019 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10706939)
Didn't he come out of her apartment covered in blood? Icr.

He didn't.

Marsh. 07-11-2019 06:15 PM

I can't remember all of the details anymore, but is it possible she never existed at all?

Tony Montana 08-11-2019 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10707341)
I can't remember all of the details anymore, but is it possible she never existed at all?

It's a possibility. I mean he thought they were a couple in his mind so anything's possible. :laugh:

Tony Montana 08-11-2019 12:49 AM

A bit late but Joker is the highest grossing R-rated film of all time, beating the previous record holder, Deadpool 2.

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Joker isn't nearly done tearing through box office records.

The DC comic book film has officially become the highest-grossing R-rated movie in box office history, having grossed $788 million, The Hollywood Reporter writes. This breaks the $783 million worldwide record previously held by Deadpool, unadjusted for inflation. Deadpool 2 also grossed $785 million worldwide, but this includes a subsequent re-release.

After hitting theaters mired in controversy, Joker has been continuously impressing at the box office, getting started by shattering the record for biggest opening weekend ever for an October release. Now, it's racking up worldwide grosses on par with a major superhero action blockbuster, despite the film being a slower-paced character study in the vein of Taxi Driver, and despite not even having a release in China, where superhero films often rack up a huge chunk of change.

In fact, Joker, which reportedly cost about $60 million to make, will take in more than $400 million in profits, Deadline reports. That would make it nearly as profitable as Avengers: Infinity War, Deadline notes, a film that grossed far more but also had a significantly higher budget.

Now the question becomes whether Joker, set to surge past $800 million, can actually break $1 billion at the worldwide box office, becoming only the second non-Disney movie of the year to do so. Box office prognosticators once thought that impossible, but Warner Bros. may have the last laugh.

Tony Montana 15-11-2019 06:01 PM

Joker tops $1 billion.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/...rldwide-today/

Tony Montana 15-11-2019 06:02 PM

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Tony Montana 15-11-2019 06:03 PM

I was expecting a critical success but a commercial success this massive? Nope!

LaLaLand 15-11-2019 06:03 PM

WELL deserved!

LukeB 20-11-2019 02:25 PM

Looks like it’s getting a sequel

https://www.nme.com/news/film/happen...firmed-2569860

LaLaLand 20-11-2019 02:29 PM

Man I don’t know how I feel about a sequel.

Like to me, it’s so spot-on perfect as a stand-alone movie that I just hope that a sequel that could potentially prove to be not-so-good (which is possible) doesn’t mar the shine of the original. Hmm...

Tom4784 20-11-2019 02:32 PM

It really shouldn't have a sequel.

Jordan. 20-11-2019 03:32 PM

Hm obviously doesn't need a sequel but I don't doubt they can come up with something equally great if given the time. Joaquin would be the first off board if it seemed subpar to the first.

LaLaLand 20-11-2019 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 10716675)
Hm obviously doesn't need a sequel but I don't doubt they can come up with something equally great if given the time. Joaquin would be the first off board if it seemed subpar to the first.

This is true. Hopefully if he did ever decide against it once he'd read the script etc the director and co would have the right attitude and not go ahead with it and NOT re-cast. :fc:

Tony Montana 20-11-2019 03:51 PM

I'm mixed on this. Of course it'd be brilliant to see Joaquin return but I'm not sure if it'll be as good as the first. I think they'd need to introduce Batman as I don't think they can go through the character study route again now that Arthur's broken bad. If not that, then have him rise to the top of Gotham's criminal underworld.

James 20-11-2019 04:09 PM

Joker 2: Electric Boogaloo.

LaLaLand 20-11-2019 04:13 PM

Be cool if they picked up right where they left off or just after, maybe Arthur breaks out of the Asylum with the help of the rioters perhaps?

Brother Leon 20-11-2019 05:28 PM

Not sure how they can take it? There’s no Batman or any other characters to lean on and we’ve already had the origin.

Daniel. 20-11-2019 05:38 PM

Best film of the tens fight me

James 20-11-2019 10:44 PM

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Don’t Dress For ‘Joker’ Sequel Yet; Insiders Say Todd Phillips Never Pitched Origin Film Series On Other DC Characters

By Mike Fleming Jr

Mike Fleming Jr
Co-Editor-in-Chief, Film
@DeadlineMike


The Joker sequel news that hit a trade today is great click bait, but multiple inside sources said that while a sequel to the billion-dollar-grossing film is an obvious likely eventuality that makes all the financial sense in the world, at this point there are no deals for a sequel, nor even any negotiations with director Todd Phillips or his co-writer Scott Silver to craft one.

Those sources add that the linchpin of today’s THR story — that a week after Joker‘s opening, Phillips met with Warner Bros film chief Toby Emmerich to pitch a portfolio of DC character origin stories — is as flat false as earlier stories that Martin Scorsese contemplated directing the first Joker (Scorsese was originally going to be a producer but dropped out because of his crowded schedule). Multiple sources said no such October 7 meeting between Phillips and Emmerich occurred, and that Phillips doesn’t want to follow Joker by overseeing other DC character films. What he has talked about in interviews is that when Joker was in its inception, there were discussions of a DC Black initiative. He instead focused on Joker. That was a long time ago. Phillips has a track record of being selective: After The Hangover began breaking records for R-rated films, he did not seek to turn his company into a comedy factory.


No one is saying a Joker sequel won’t happen someday. But multiple sources said nothing has happened yet and that Phillips and co-writer Scott Silver have made no real moves to draft the further dark rise of Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck character, or even to make a deal to do that.
https://deadline.com/2019/11/joker-s...ed-1202790774/

Nicky91 22-12-2019 01:58 PM

gonna watch this movie tonight for first time :D

LaLaLand 08-01-2020 03:20 PM

Well done to Joaquin Phoenix on his Best Actor Golden Globe. I'm sure we can all agree this was well deserved. :clap2:

LaLaLand 08-01-2020 03:22 PM

This movie has had 11 BAFTA noms, the most noms for any movie going into this year's ceremony (OUATIH and The Irishman both have 10 each):

1. Best Film
2. Best Director
3. Best Actor in a Leading Role
4. Best Adapted Screenplay
5. Best Cinematography
6. Best Original Score
7. Best Sound
8. Best Production Design
9. Best Makeup and Hair
10. Best Editing
11. Best Casting

Shaun 25-08-2020 10:02 AM

Watched this last night. Thought it was very good, but I still prefer Ledger's and Hamill's takes on the character. I liked the idea of going with his laughter as an uncontrollable condition rather than an annoying trait but I actually found his waaaaay more annoying than the others I've watched :worry:

Anyway, it was good for an origin story but I've always considered characters like this to be the most engaging when they're in the throes of their crimes.

LaLaLand 25-08-2020 10:43 AM

Did anyone else notice this Batman “Easter egg” btw? :omgno:



So bloody clever!!

Strictly Jake 25-08-2020 01:19 PM

Saw this last week for the 1st time. Was really good!

Vanessa 25-08-2020 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Strictly Jake (Post 10901974)
Saw this last week for the 1st time. Was really good!

I just love Joaquin phoenix performance in this.
He was incredible!

James 16-06-2022 12:26 AM

Joker sequel to be a musical.

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The Joker is back, and this time he’s bringing a friend.

Lady Gaga is in early talks to star opposite Joaquin Phoenix in director Todd Phillips’ sequel to Joker, the Oscar-winning, $1 billion-grossing, 2019 Warner Bros. hit based on the DC villain.

Phillips has been writing the script with Joker co-writer Scott Silver for some time and has finally shown it to the studio. Last week, Phillips revealed on social media the title of the new project — Joker: Folie à deux — referencing a medical term for an identical or similar mental disorder that affects two or more individuals, usually members of the same family. And while the same social media post showed Phoenix reading the script, the actor’s involvement is not exactly a fait accompli just yet — sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that Warners has yet to close a deal with the actor, with the two sides deep into it.

Enter Gaga.

Details on her character are being kept under wraps, but Joker is known for his on-off abusive relationship with Harley Quinn, his psychiatrist at the Arkham Asylum mental institution who falls in love with him and becomes his sidekick and partner in crime. It is unclear whether Phillips and company are using other DC characters or striking out on their own, as they did in many instances with the first movie.

If a deal makes, Gaga would play Quinn. However, this new Quinn exists in a different DC universe than Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn, who most recently appeared in 2021’s The Suicide Squad as well as several other films.

But wait, that’s not all: Sources say the sequel is also a musical.....
From https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mo...al-1235154135/

Niamh. 16-06-2022 07:29 AM

A musical? Hhhmmm

bots 16-06-2022 08:23 AM

they are having a laugh surely? :laugh:

user104658 16-06-2022 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11177681)
A musical? Hhhmmm



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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11177685)
they are having a laugh surely? :laugh:



I dunno, todays MRA’s are much more colourful than ye olde MRA’s of 2019. You have to keep up with the fan base.


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