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Tony Montana 28-04-2019 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533262)
As I explained, I'm not really a marvel fanatic - and watching Infinity War as an outsider is extremely confusing. I was also really ill and tired, so I didn't really want to be at the cinema in the first place.

Fair enough.

Tony Montana 28-04-2019 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10533263)
I know I mean Mark Ruffalo was a great choice to play The Hulk/Bruce! I see that character in him more than i did with Norton.

They both did a fantastic job, with a slight edge to Ruffalo. I also love Ang Lee's Hulk, which is very underrated.

Morgan. 28-04-2019 09:45 PM

Also WHERE was Hannah Baker :suspect: I'm sure her actress was meant to be in the film?

Marsh. 28-04-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533277)
Also WHERE was Hannah Baker :suspect: I'm sure her actress was meant to be in the film?

They filled their female quota for this year. :laugh:

Tom4784 29-04-2019 12:28 PM

Spoiler:

I've changed my mind on Black Widow's death, I was talking to a friend about it this morning and she brought up an interesting point. In most films and stories, women tend to sacrifice themselves for their love interests or their children while men tend to have heroic sacrifices for the greater good. Black Widow is a rare example of a female character sacrificing themselves, not for a personal connection but for the desire to do good by everyone.

Widow wasn't fridged to create motivation for the male heroes, it wasn't Gamora's death all over again. It was the inverse of Gamora's death and the more I think about it, the more I like how it went down. It's unfortunate she died but she died in a way that few female characters do, in an empowered and heroic fashion.

Barry. 29-04-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10533246)
I might get all of these movies on blue ray!

I might wait for the 4k of all films then buy it.

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:01 PM

Screaming I was watching some press interviews today and crying at
Spoiler:

Scarlett spoiling her and RDJ character deaths

Tony Montana 29-04-2019 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533706)
Screaming I was watching some press interviews today and crying at
Spoiler:

Scarlett spoiling her and RDJ character deaths

Link?

Tony Montana 29-04-2019 03:04 PM

But yeah that's brutal.

Tony Montana 29-04-2019 03:13 PM

Mess a man was beaten up in a cinema in Hong Kong after he revealed spoilers.

https://www.scoopwhoop.com/entertain...me/#.hxqw91iwd

https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...4a0fd944ae2373

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Montana (Post 10533709)
Link?

It was the Jimmy Kimmel interview

Basically
Spoiler:

RDJ was like 'the futures uncertain' and Scarlett put her hand on his leg and laughed 'don't lie to them we're not gonna ever come back'. Not really an intentional spoiler and it's blink and you'll miss it, but it's there

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:21 PM

Also thinking of starting my Marvel watch today. Had some big marvel fan friends reccomend an order for me that I'm happy with so just got to source everything to watch :dance:

LukeB 29-04-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533737)
Also thinking of starting my Marvel watch today. Had some big marvel fan friends reccomend an order for me that I'm happy with so just got to source everything to watch :dance:

Captain Marvel is still showing at cinemas so you should see that before it goes. All of the sources would be cam recorded.

LukeB 29-04-2019 03:28 PM

The only MCU videos that's on netflix are

- Hulk
- Avengers Age of Ultron
- Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2
- Ant Man

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10533743)
The only MCU videos that's on netflix are

- Hulk
- Avengers Age of Ultron
- Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2
- Ant Man

I don't just have Netflix :joker:

And I've found HQ sources - you just have to look deep

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10533740)
Captain Marvel is still showing at cinemas so you should see that before it goes. All of the sources would be cam recorded.

Not near me. I checked yesterday - just Avengers.

In fact - Avengers is the only film that's actually showing in all 8 screens this week :skull:

LukeB 29-04-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533751)
Not near me. I checked yesterday - just Avengers.

In fact - Avengers is the only film that's actually showing in all 8 screens this week :skull:

It's still showing in Birmingham:dance:

New Street Odeon still has it and it will be £5

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10533752)
It's still showing in Birmingham:dance:

New Street Odeon still has it and it will be £5

Yeah and my train there will be £15 and going to Birmingham on a weekend gives me major anxiety :joker:

Tony Montana 29-04-2019 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533737)
Also thinking of starting my Marvel watch today. Had some big marvel fan friends reccomend an order for me that I'm happy with so just got to source everything to watch :dance:

From their recommendations, I think you’ll like Civil War, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Ragnarok, Guardians 1, Iron Man 1 and Homecoming the most.

Tony Montana 29-04-2019 03:40 PM

I’m on the bus on my way to work and some kids are talking about Endgame, they’re spoiling it. :joker:

Morgan. 29-04-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony Montana (Post 10533761)
From their recommendations, I think you’ll like Civil War, Black Panther, Winter Soldier, Ragnarok, Guardians 1, Iron Man 1 and Homecoming the most.

I hated Guardians 1 the first time but I'm giving it another chance

Tony Montana 29-04-2019 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533769)
I hated Guardians 1 the first time but I'm giving it another chance

I haven’t watched it in full myself, only seen clips of it. All my friends love it. It’s one of the few MCU films I haven’t seen.

Niamh. 29-04-2019 03:48 PM

GOTG and Ant man are the best ones :oh:

LukeB 29-04-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10533782)
GOTG and Ant man are the best ones :oh:

And Captain America :dance:

Niamh. 29-04-2019 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 10533787)
And Captain America :dance:

nah

Oliver_W 29-04-2019 04:01 PM

GOTG and Thor Ragnarok are better Star Wars movies than the Disney SW movies tbh <3

Marsh. 29-04-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10533782)
GOTG and Ant man are the best ones :oh:

Avoided Ant-Man for so long because it looked lame. Watched it on Netflix recently and it's great. Want to see Ant-Man and the Wasp now.

user104658 29-04-2019 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10533234)
Spoiler:


Yeah, I think there are two Steves, with one still frozen until about 2011 in that alternate past.

They set the rule about time-travel when they go to the past they can only change history of that reality (or dimension), not the original one.

It seemed like they broke that rule at they end though when older Steve was sitting on the bench. He would have had to have found a way back to the original dimension to be able to be there. For instance he rebuilt the time-machine with the help of Hank Pym or Tony Stark from that dimension. Which is stretch and a lot of trouble just to be able to give Falcon the shield.

No; The Ancient One explained to Prof. Hulk that the infinity stones themselves are what rectify the paradox of time travel and keep the reality flowing "as one". Different timelines split off if an infinity stone is removed from the timeline which is why she doesn't want him to take the time stone. That would split reality at that moment and leave her current timeline defenseless. Prof. Hulk counters that returning the stones to their place in the timeline "as though they were never gone" should maintain the structure of the timeline, which is why it's so important for them to take the stones back where they belong.

Cap goes back and returns all of the stones, unifying the timeline, and is still in that same timeline.

James 29-04-2019 07:34 PM

Oh, I see... I think.

What happens if Cap changes a historical fact in the past then? (after returning the stones).

user104658 29-04-2019 07:36 PM

Just back from seeing it by the way and it was awesome :omgno:.

I found it dragged SLIGHTLY somewhere in the middle of the stone collection, but the last hour-or-so was basically the best cinema I've ever seen. ****ing hell. The deaths were sad but made sense. Black Widow really had to go over Hawkeye... their story came full circle. Hawkeye took her away from a life of being a ruthless assassin as described in Avengers 1, she did the same for him here... and then sacrificed herself for him in what was EASILY the most natural feminist moment of the movie (more on that later...). It was the "right death" too... Black Widow as she said herself, was all about the job and doing the right thing. Hawkeye had a family - that he lost, yes - but the whole mission was to get all the dustfolks including them back! So if they're assuming they will win... he has a family that will be wrecked by his death.

Tony's sacrifice was awesome also. The moment slightly affected for me because a large man sat a few seats away from me (in a relatively empty screening) started BAWLING LIKE A BABY, for 10 full minutes, and then spent another 5 having a coughing fit because he blubbingly inhaled some popcorn :joker:.

The final battle was near perfect. But... ok in reference to the proper feminism above with Black Widow... I swear my ONLY gripe was when all of the women suddenly showed up to help Captain Marvel. It didn't make sense! Where did they all come from, and how is it realistic that ALL of the female heroes happened to be nearby... but no one else :think:. I get that it's meant to be a message but it was immersion breaking and thus ruined the moment. It felt shoe-horned.

JUST having Scarlet Witch, Valkyrie and Pepper Pots would have successfully conveyed the same moment without being logically broken... IMO :think:

Standout comedy goes to that last scene with Thor and the Asgardians of the Galaxy :joker:.

Morgan. 29-04-2019 07:37 PM

^ major spoilers there TS - I'd spoiler tag it

Marsh. 29-04-2019 07:40 PM

The movie is out. Spoiler tags should be for unreleased/unaired things.

If someone hasn't seen it this isn't the thread for them.

No use in a discussion thread just full of spoiler tags.

user104658 29-04-2019 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10533903)
Oh, I see... I think.

What happens if Cap changes a historical fact in the past then? (after returning the stones).

Well one theory is that he would just be careful and live a quiet life with Peggy, and she would keep it secret.

Second I guess is that The Ancient One implied that the Infinity Stones actively keep the timeline intact so it would be impossible to drastically change any "key moments", as a "fate" of sorts keeps everything more or less on track. They also confirm that predestiny / fate exists in the MCU as The Ancient One already knows who Stephen Strange is (and that he'll be the Sorcerer Supreme), long before he meets her.

Tom4784 29-04-2019 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 10533903)
Oh, I see... I think.

What happens if Cap changes a historical fact in the past then? (after returning the stones).

The timeline would probably split again but I'm guessing that, since Cap went back AFTER his past self was already in the ice, he couldn't interfere with his own history by being in the past. If Peggy Carter was still where she needed to be in all the events she played a role in then the timeline wouldn't split.

user104658 29-04-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533909)
^ major spoilers there TS - I'd spoiler tag it

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10533913)
The movie is out. Spoiler tags should be for unreleased/unaired things.

If someone hasn't seen it this isn't the thread for them.

No use in a discussion thread just full of spoiler tags.

I agree with Marsh, anyone who willingly enters a movie discussion thread before they've seen it and doesn't expect spoilers.. well... :umm2:.

I saw it today and I've been avoiding this thread like the plague since Thursday :joker:

Morgan. 29-04-2019 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 10533913)
The movie is out. Spoiler tags should be for unreleased/unaired things.

If someone hasn't seen it this isn't the thread for them.

No use in a discussion thread just full of spoiler tags.

Fair enough. I just know people in the thread have been coming in to say they're watching later or in a couple days. And pretty much everyone else have been spoiler tagging - so I just thought that's what everyone was doing?

I thought spoiler tags would be in use until it stopped airing at cinemas

user104658 29-04-2019 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Blurryface (Post 10533918)
Fair enough. I just know people in the thread have been coming in to say they're watching later or in a couple days. And pretty much everyone else have been spoiler tagging - so I just thought that's what everyone was doing?

I thought spoiler tags would be in use until it stopped airing at cinemas

I mean the thread title itself says "contains spoilers" ... :suspect:

Morgan. 29-04-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10533924)
I mean the thread title itself says "contains spoilers" ... :suspect:

I know that

I'm just aware most people have been spoiler tagging things I just thought that was what everyone was going with :shrug:

James 29-04-2019 07:55 PM

I just added the 'contains spoilers' bit.

Barry. 29-04-2019 07:59 PM

So Agent Carter tv series would of had to feature Steve if it was still airing lol.


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