Are you okay lad???

Never changed my tune.....Trust me ...I Dont suck ass to DUP and I Know what the IRISH border means..........Do you??

People viewing this ****show from abroad don't always put it as nuanced as we'd like it, Cherie. I have friends abroad who also tend to do that :shrug:
The fact is that the remain side is not as loud as it should be and, bar occassional events like that march, our side is drowned out in the media by crap merchants like farage or johnson.
Look at the EU elections, why remain parties failed to create a voting block?

Anyway, I agree with Lime that Brexit is purely about English nationalism. They don't care about Ireland or Scotland. You'll see soon enough, they will push for no deal and damn Ireland and its peace process. Johnson already said it that UK will leave on 31/10 even if there's no deal.

With respect to the Republic of Ireland, and as a remainer, this isn't about the Republic, it is about the UK. The Republic chose to join the EU and accept all it entails, the UK are leaving, they can't dictate to the UK. If resurgent violence is the expectation of having a border, then it's not a stable peace that currently exists, it's nothing but a sham.

Nigel Farage
is not in out Government
is a MEP.

If Boris Johnson wins the Conservative Leadership
its him alone

Arista, I refuse to believe your imagination doesn't stretch to comprehend the fact that you can be very influential in politics without holding office :facepalm:
Every now and then you persistently push forward this lame argument. Stop it.
Everybody knows Farage is very influential in setting the political agenda. He has been ever since Ukip.

Yes the DUP
are holding up the Conservative power
still , even though PM May is soon gone
They can work with Boris Johnson.

Yes he sets the tone
But he has no Power as a MEP.

Boris Johnson is going full steam ahead
Farage is a Outsider.
Thats how the Conservatives see it all
they are not joining with the Brexit party etc.

They might work with Boris but how will they work with us:shrug::shrug:

that's what they may say but unofficially a alliance from hell with farage has been rumoured among the conservatives for a while now

No sadly , its just with the DUP,
all others are not going to get a look in.

I'm not cheering at the thought of Farage or Boris so yes I think I actually do

But thats because the Thursday
Vote of the EU Elections
had a large amount of Conservatives voting
for the Brexit Party.

As well as many Labour Leaver Voters.

Also to be fair
If Boris meets Farage in Private
that's normal, and no one will find out

With all due respect, Lime obviously reads this forum regularly so will be well aware that there is significant anti Brexit feeling in the UK, but still comes out with these sweeping statements about the GBP wanting to leave with no deal, her attitude is one that takes us back decades, blame the English for everything, I really thought we Irish had moved forward from that narrative but obviously some have not

I don' t where to begin ???

The irish have moved on ...The ERG haven't


the DUP and the ERG takes up back decakes but hey hoy blame it on this Boer

So what does the Irish border mean To Us Irish ??

Yes Lime
it could get tough,
for a while.

But it does not help
there is no power in charge in Northern Ireland

I have acknowledged on the thread that there are people who want to leave with no deal, when will you acknowledge that there are also a significant number who don't

Sadly It matters not what I or you think...With Boris and Farage in charge..it wont end well....They want no deal:cloud::cloud:

I knew we would agree on something the end :laugh:

Can we all just come to an agreement now that we all move on :wavey::wavey:

:hug:

:love::love:

Dominic Raab and Andrea Ledesom have declared they will stand

Leadsom the quitter.
She stood last time and dropped out amid controversy.
She's just quit her cabinet post too.

Another waste of political space and another heartless hardliner.

Raab, I have no real feelings on either way.

However if I was Conservative, I wouldn't want either of those two as leader and PM.

Steve Baker

If it's to be another female, then Priti Patel

What odds is Steve Baker? Get a bet on

Can't see him standing

40/1 Steve Baker. Well worth a quid or 2. He'd be the Brexiters choice. And if they want to save their party and win back the Brexiters, then he's the best bet.

I think he will be standing, he was on the news saying how much good he had done, and how so many people had asked him to stand. The guy was on a huge ego trip

No not enough backers
give him the New Brexit Minister Job.

I remember when John Major won, everybody said, "who's he? "

Sure
but these days its Fast News and Media
Twitter has changed everything

Matt Hancock
is running has his own social media app
for example
but not enough backers

Micky Gove has confirmed that he will enter the Conservative leadership race to become the next PM.

He would be the worst option

This is going to be a toxic campaign, so many of the as well, none of whom had to balls to stand 2 years ago

Watching tories stab each other is always fun :D

Yes this time round
he does not have the backers
that Boris , has.

Back in 2016
Chris Grayling was the manager of getting May in
that's why he was kept in cabinet jobs
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...pg?imwidth=450


He will be a back bencher , soon.

Gove I guess at least stayed in Cabinet.
He did sort of scupper Johnson's hopes last time.
Perhaps he can again.

The only ones, if I was a Conservative and had a vote, I would not want as leader.
Are,. Johnson, Andrea Loathsome and the awful McVey woman.

The ones I think from looking in on this contest, who I think could have the best chance of success, both on brexit and for the Conservatives generally.
Would be.
Rory Stewart.
Matt Hancock.
Then just in my 3rd, Jeremy Hunt.

It will be interesting to read those who strongly support the Conservative party, as to really which candidate, they would like and why.

Once you have a leader, you don't want, it can be a chore getting them to go.
Look at the farcical procrastinated drive to get May out.
Also the same currently in the Labour party too.

There is simply no point in the tories electing yet another remain leader. They tried that, and it failed. Parliament and or the electorate have to choose between a no deal brexit and revoking it. A deal is just not going to happen