I'm mainly baffled by the idea that you have to agree with a creative to enjoy their material. I mean... So many things I've loved - books, music (so much music lol), so many films and TV shows, created by people who personally I think are objectively just awful but when did it become the case that you're only allowed to enjoy entertainment created by people you agree with politically? I'd just be sat here doing nothing all the time :joker:.

Which in itself sort of says to people, don't hate me because I'm the face of Harry Potter who reminds you of that nasty lady who wants all trans people dead in your eyes, cause I love you, honest!

I'm sure that isn't the case, but yeah, it does make it extremely easy to be cynical.

Exactly.

The progressive and the conservative are kind of merging into one huge fascist voice and it's disturbing.

Another funny one was all the tweets all bleating about how "She didn't learn from her own stories about love" and it seems they missed the big ****ing allegory on fascism right at the heart of them. :joker:

The best was an article by Pink News which is one of the leading media outlets in terms of news affecting the LGBTQ community which basically accused her of planting the seeds of transphobia in Prisoner of Azkaban when Neville makes the Boggart Snape dress up in his grandmother's dresses. Yes, really. I swiftly unfollowed them having been a reader of them for a good few years.

:skull: Not them fighting for us to dispense with gender stereotypes but then reinforcing them by suggesting a man wearing a dress is trans.

Or the ones accusing her of it because she has a male pseudonym.

Oh I've watched some of Blairs videos, I really like her

She has some interesting insights on trans people, especially considering she is one herself but she's pretty vile outside of that. She's a Trump supporter, she opposed Black Lives Matter and she lied about being victimised at an anti-trump Protest when she crossed the divide and basically kickstarted the altercation herself. She's basically a token minority voice for the right, sadly.

Wow it seems a bit base to be reduced to a bleeding uterus....
Where I can see an argument worthy of agreeing with is the Germain Greer one where she argues womanhood (and obv manhood) is a whole life experience shaped by socialisation.

Oh dear ok.

I see the Sun has been heavily criticised for giving a voice to a domestic violence perpetrator by Domestic Abuse Charities, glad to hear that

It's not like you to hold back dezzy...::shrug:

So... Disneys jungle book is for the chop then?

It's a shame really, I have seen clips on issues where she seems quite switched on but she's made her fortune basically telling the right wing what they want to hear. It undermines the things she says that are spot on when she's basically a trans voice for hire.

Yeah, it's unbelievable that they'd do that but then again, it's The Sun. I will always be happy to see it getting dragged through the mud. JK Rowling has annoyed me for years but they shouldn't use the public's dislike of her to give an abuser a platform.

The actress who played Luna initially posted a similar tweet as the other HP actors, then she posted another saying the abuse JK Rowling was getting was too much....she then had to delete her account because of the abuse she got herself for saying that

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCriti...account_after/

why do people post on that cesspit, she has done herself a favour

I honestly believe that early-21st-century Social Media will be looked back on by historians as an absolute disaster. Forget Trump, forget Farage, forget Katie Hopkins and Tommy Robinson and the countless others... the common thread in the descent into competing tribes of dumb hive-mind ****ing nonsense is Social Media. Full stop.

Yeah for sure.

Just reading about this now, apparently she shared last year about how she became penpals with JKR before getting a role in the films and she helped her through an eating disorder.

Fair play to her for giving her own response and not one her publicist typed for her.

Social media was alright when it was about staying in touch with friends and family / local community / people with similar interests, and posting about your day etc.

When people / groups realised it could be used to promote or comment on issues it's been disastrous.

I agree, as a way to keep in touch with old friends and extended family it's great.... it's when strangers start sharing views the drama starts....lol!

Social media is pretty toxic these days.

I actually saw twitter threads were people were naming and "shaming" children's writers who hadn't tweeted about BLM :joker: it's like, get a grip, maybe they have actual lives?

Yes there is a developing culture of "silence = a statement" which is just ridiculous. The idea that everyone MUST keep up to date with all current events and political movements at all times or their views on it will be assumed.

Really just far safer for public figures to not have social media accounts in the first place, so it can't be demanded that they pass comment like it's some sort of duty.

Back to the point about why it's only women who are being reduced to bodily functions/body parts

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Just reading a story online and thought I would post it here, this is not on, the woman must have been terrified, she was followed home by a man and harrassed, her car license plate identified and everyone immediately believes the man's version when it turns out, this guy has form for doing stuff like this and has been cautioned by police previously.

https://tbdailynews.com/ig-influence...affic-dispute/

IG Influencer Harasses, Follows Home, And Doxxes Woman As A “Karen” For Giving Him The Middle Finger During Traffic Dispute

https://i0.wp.com/tbdailynews.com/wp...80%2C405&ssl=1

Karlos decided that he was going to try to ruin a woman’s life yesterday after she allegedly (gasp) gave him the finger in traffic. He followed her home, got up in her space, called her Karen, filmed her, and harassed her, as she embarrassingly begged him not to post it on the Internet.

Shaming Karens started as something fun, but has turned into a way for society to pile on white women. There’s no such thing as a multicultural Karen. By definition they must be white. It’s funny because usually the Karens are dreadful creatures, but just imagine doing this to any other race of women. Imagine what would happen if white men went around filming black women, calling them Laqueesha, and then mocking them on social media. But the rules of social justice tell us that we’re only allowed to mock white women, so this is OK.
What he did to this woman is pretty disgusting, and in a sane world he’d get his ass whooped for it.

“Why did I get flipped off?”
Probably because you’re horrible.
According to his story she was completely in the right. He admits that he merged onto a highway from the right and she wouldn’t let him in so he had to wait and then jump in behind her.

This is not cutting someone off. It’s following the rules of the road. He also admits to tailgating, prompting her to justifiably give him the middle finger. But I guess the rules don’t apply to Karlos because he’s “marginalized,” or something.
Once he begins live streaming on IG he all of a sudden mentions that she was doing “racial ****.” How do you do “racial ****” while driving, if he can’t hear what she said? This is the new thing people do to justify horrible and sometimes criminal behavior – claim that you were called the n word. Because there is no bigger crime than calling someone the n word, and any behavior that results from it is justified. This includes creating a mob to stalk and harass a woman.

Notice that he gets up in her personal space during a pandemic, she puts her hands up and he yells, “don’t touch me.” He was the aggressor here, not her. He was the one that was so butthurt over getting the middle finger that he filmed himself following this woman home like a psychopath.
It’s obviously humiliating for this woman because she freaked out and yelled “I have a black husband.” SJW mobs want you to say that you have a black friend or a black kid or a black husband, because they like going after these people even more than they do overt racists.
He posted another video showing her license plate and address for the purpose of doxxing her, hoping that her life would be ruined like that woman from Central Park that the mob destroyed last month.

His tone is what annoys me off the most. This is a man talking to a woman. He screams and yells at her and he gets away with it because he’s gay. Newsflash – just because you’re homosexual, doesn’t mean you’re not a man. You don’t get to treat a woman like this because you think you’re one of the girls.
“You’re trying to ruin my life and you don’t even know me.”

“He wants to call me a Karen and put it online.”

That lady is well aware of Internet outrage culture. She knows what a Karen is, and she may have even enjoyed watching other Karens get roasted. She immediately realized while this was happening that she was about to be the next one, she knew the implications this could have on her job and life, and she was freaking out. It’s funny to laugh at her, but considering what this can do to a person’s life it really wasn’t that much of an overreaction.

What a time to be alive eh? And this is progress :joker:

She cut him off, brake checked him, flipped him off and was racist to him, he had every right to confront her, she played a fool and started hollering that he was attacking her When he was nowhere near her, knowing what that would like like for him, I don’t agree with doxxing, I think it should be illegal, but I have very little sympathy for racists that freak out because they get confronted over it, she’s a clown

According to his story she was completely in the right. He admits that he merged onto a highway from the right and she wouldn’t let him in so he had to wait and then jump in behind her.

This is not cutting someone off. It’s following the rules of the road. He also admits to tailgating, prompting her to justifiably give him the middle finger. But I guess the rules don’t apply to Karlos because he’s “marginalized,” or something.
Once he begins live streaming on IG he all of a sudden mentions that she was doing “racial ****.” How do you do “racial ****” while driving, if he can’t hear what she said? This is the new thing people do to justify horrible and sometimes criminal behavior – claim that you were called the n word. Because there is no bigger crime than calling someone the n word, and any behavior that results from it is justified. This includes creating a mob to stalk and harass a woman.


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Did you read the article?

"According to his story she was completely in the right. He admits that he merged onto a highway from the right and she wouldn’t let him in so he had to wait and then jump in behind her.
This is not cutting someone off. It’s following the rules of the road. He also admits to tailgating, prompting her to justifiably give him the middle finger. But I guess the rules don’t apply to Karlos because he’s “marginalized,” or something.
Once he begins live streaming on IG he all of a sudden mentions that she was doing “racial ****.” How do you do “racial ****” while driving, if he can’t hear what she said? This is the new thing people do to justify horrible and sometimes criminal behavior – claim that you were called the n word. Because there is no bigger crime than calling someone the n word, and any behavior that results from it is justified. This includes creating a mob to stalk and harass a woman."

So now white women have to let any nob cut in front in case this happens? Is that how you see it Liam?

I read it, it’s an opinion piece, it basically says black people feign racism to get away with crimes

No, but people shouldn’t have to deal with racism either

So one justifies the other,? there is no suggestion she is being racist, she was in a vehicle in front...she gave him the finger...how is that racist?

No, it says this man feigned racism to get social media fame, he has form for doing similar in the past and has been cautioned by Police for harassing people. His Twitter account has been shut down because of this video apparently

He claims she called him the n-word

How would he know what she said while driving in front of him on motorway? And why do you automatically believe him rather than her?

‘This is the new thing people do to justify horrible and sometimes criminal behavior – claim that you were called the n word. Because there is no bigger crime than calling someone the n word, and any behavior that results from it is justified. This includes creating a mob to stalk and harass a woman.‘

A very broad statement to discuss one man.

The entire article screams ‘white lives matter’

OK forget about the article, what about the situation itself, the twitter thread, the woman is being harassed and is terrified when apparently it was the man who had been in the wrong in the traffic incident. And this is a thing, that it's OK because she's a white woman of a certain age so is probably the one in the wrong because of that

https://twitter.com/wypipo_h8/status...28765941977089

Calling someone the N-word is a pretty ugly thing to do, but it doesn't warrant doxxing someone and ruining their life. The latter is much worse.

There is no evidence that she even said that as well. I don't know how he could possibly have known what the woman was saying while he was driving behind her on a motorway

Why do you believe her over him?

Her reaction says a lot to me, she automatically knew what his complaint was, she automatically knew what the reaction would be from the public, she automatically knew what she would be labelled as and rather than have a discussion with him, like he was willing to do in the video, she screamed like a banshee so everyone could hear that he was ‘attacking’ her, we all know why she did that

Doxxing is awful and shouldn’t be a thing we can agree on that, but if people want to be openly racist and have no qualms about it, then they should face repercussions