They wouldn't have had bullets fired at them had they announced who they were upon breaking the door down.

Her EX boyfriend was the drug dealer, who wasn't even in the house. I love how that's one fact you can't seem to register.

Evidence?

Where's your evidence that the boyfriend who fired at the officers was a drug dealer and not a scared citizen as you stated earlier in the thread?

Contrary Mary at it again. So boring.

And your evidence he isn't!
?

One of many articles

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

From the article:

Taylor’s ex-boyfriend was dealing drugs. That man, Jamarcus Glover, was the main focus of the police investigation. Walker, Taylor’s boyfriend at the time of her death, was not named in any investigation

Now you show me one that proves he was a drug dealer. Don't worry, I'll wait :shrug:

She got you there pal, take the L

Not named in the investigation does not mean he wasn't. Where is the evidence he wasnt?

And not a left wing source

I think you’ll find that as the person insisting on it being true, the onus to prove it, falls onto you, unfortunately for you

Surely this is your time to show me evidence he was....I can post multiple articles....can you? Just one???

[QUOTE=AnnieK;10922827]Surely this is your time to show me evidence he was....I can post multiple articles....can you? Just one???[/QUOTypu posE]
Surely isn't evidence

Ah...so it's a no then....ok LT. Good chat

:joker:
Good one :thumbs:

Rekt

So, no evidence??

From you...no. Just your assumption. As I said there are multiple articles stating the man she was with was an innocent citizen. Just waiting for that all important proof from you that he was a drug dealer. It's ok though....I'm here all night

Ever seen a dog trying to get a stick through a door even though it won’t fit?

Is that LT?

Evidence of what ?? :conf:

There is evidence to back up my claim of the plea deal but there is none to back up your assertion that Breonna Taylors boyfriend was a drug dealer. Or are you telling us to go and find evidence that he wasnt? How on earth do we do that? This is getting quite silly.:shrug:

The burden of proof lies on the affirmative claim, you can't ask for proof of something NOT being the case, that's not how it works. You make a claim (e.g. that someone was a drug dealer) and you back it with evidence - people assess that evidence and decide if they think it's convincing or not. In the absence of evidence, you assume that the claim is false. No "proof" is required.

This is pretty basic stuff LT, both in a legal sense and in general debating :nono:.

:joker:

people haven't said that the killing was justified, they are merely saying that there is a difference between murder and manslaughter and that particular case is not murder. People throw ... "it was murder" around all the time on this forum, and it most often simply isn't. The prosecution always select the most serious crime that they can get a conviction for ... although with plea bargaining it's more complicated in the USA

...Murder isn’t thrown around though, bots...it’s debated because that’s what we do, that’s the whole point of this section...from the very closest people to Breonna and extending out to many other people, murder/manslaughter is being spoken about../debated...we could visit any forum in town, as they say...and the debate would be more or less the same/...very similar on this topic and any given topic of the day that we speak of...

...if as the ‘EX’ of...a no knock warrant was felt a necessity, then why..?...what were the specific reasons for that because ‘being an EX’ in itself is not a reason, those reasons must have been pretty sure of...did they do the same or intend to do the same with every EX person his life just on the off chance that drugs may be found, or whatever...is that their use of policing ...the laws that they are upholding, say that firearms can be owned and can be used when someone ‘invades’ your home, because they’ve then become a threat to you and your loved ones safety...that’s the belief system and law that those officers uphold..I wonder how it would have been if one or several of the officers had been killed in their bungling...how the law and justice system would have viewed that ...rather than facing the death of loved ones through a bungled raid, would long term prison sentences have been what was faced instead, for innocent people who were sleeping in their beds...there is no way, no how and no upturn, side turn etc of this that can make Breonna’s death anything other than a direct result of police actions against innocent citizens..and those actions against innocent really had to be the most air tight of things to have showed those drugs actually being there and everything that they suspected being how it was...and it wasn’t how it was because they weren’t there...and her family are being expected to just suck it up and accept a very low value of Breonna’s death as any sentencing of ‘justice’...Because the law as it applies to everyone, apparently doesn’t apply to the people who uphold it, the police officers themselves...it’s easy to see why a system is as broken as it is..

Breonna's death is a tragedy, but in all honesty what Bots had previously mentioned some pages back, it can't also be convincingly be ruled a ''murder'' compared to George Floyd where you got more concrete evidence against the officer involved (whom ignored 20 ''i can't breathe'' pleas, meaning Floyd was already apprehended, surrendered and he kept his knee on top of his neck so that was unnecessary usage of deadly force, he knew he was begging for his life and he coldly just ended his life)


Breonna's family deserves justice, but we need the truth of what went down

People (incorrectly) assume that murder is by necessity "worse" than various types of manslaughter and therefore "if it was really bad and they should be locked up for a long time, we must call it murder, cos that's the bad one".

Its a bit overly simplistic though and there are many examples of manslaughter that are arguably far worse than murder and rightly hcarry heavier sentences too.

Here's a simple example; some arsehole goes and gets tanked up on cocaine and alcohol, steals a car, and kills a woman and baby crossing the road. Vehicular manslaughter. He gets out on bail and the husband/father of the two, after seeing him laughing on Social Media, decides to go out and beat the guy to death. That's murder.

Whose side are we on? Who (if they were separate incidents, obviously) is quite likely to get more jail time?

Oop... a porky pie to justify a murder?

It annoys me when people put comments about where was the repsect towards the police seargent etc on the show...surely people realise the show isnt live??!! It was filmed weeks ago