Nobody is taken into hospital if symptoms are mild

Zips wholeheartedly agrees m'lady.

I'm not accusing him of those things, he is those things. He is dangerously incompetent, he has enabled widespread death. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck. It's not dangerous or irresponsible to hold a leader accountable for his actions, and his actions have had grave irreversible consequences for so many people that have lost loved ones.

To me, he is no different to Kim Jong Un, or Putin or any other monster in a position of power and I doubt you would ever show those leaders the same consideration you're showing Trump now. I don't pretend to feel sorry for cruel people when karma comes a-knocking. If he dies, it'll be no one's fault but his own and I'll be glad that the world would be rid of him.

Hang on they taking him there
as he trying some new Experimental Meds
that needs a Proper Hospital as back up.

...I’m still sceptical with it all../..the timing of it etc...and how quickly he’s apparently deteriorated ...it was said that any determination if it was to happen, would be in around 10 days or so...similar to Boris...but it seems to have happened within hours...something that appears to be baffling many people...anyways, sceptical has been his game and way with COVID...so he’s very much been a promoter and supporter of sceptical...

If we’ve learned anything over the last four years, it’s that Donald Trump is a despicable human being and that calling him a “human being” may be too kind. Child separation, attacks on widows, “suckers” and “losers,” indifference about 200,000 dead Americans—you know his greatest hits. But on Tuesday night, during the first presidential debate, Trump apparently thought that the best way to reach undecided voters would be by making the case that he’s truly one of the worst people on earth and that there is no contest between him and Joe Biden vis-à-vis who is several rungs below pond scum on the asshole scale.

Hitting Trump on the report that he called dead soldiers “suckers” and “losers,” Biden told the president, “The way you talk about the military, the way you talk about them being losers and just being suckers—my son was in Iraq. He spent a year there. He got the Bronze Star. He got the Conspicuous Service medal. He was not a loser. He was a patriot, and the people left behind there were heroes.”

“Are you talking about Hunter?” Trump snarled.

“I’m talking about my son Beau Biden,” the former vice president said, referring to his son who died of brain cancer five years ago.

“I don’t know Beau,” Trump said without skipping a beat before launching into an attack on Biden’s son who is living, and whom he tried desperately to convince Ukraine to smear last year. “I know Hunter. Hunter got thrown out of the military. He was thrown out, dishonorably discharged…for cocaine use, and he didn’t have a job until you became vice president.”

While no one would have thought any less of Biden if he’d crossed the stage to sock Trump in the mouth, instead he offered a response that very likely connected with a lot of people in the country in a way that the current president never could, particularly considering America is still in the middle of an opioid crisis. “My son, like a lot of people, like a lot of people we know at home, had a drug problem,” Biden said. “He’s overtaken it. He’s fixed it. He’s worked on it. And I’m proud of him. I’m proud of my son.”

In sum, if viewers took one thing away from the debate, it’s probably that Donald Trump is a terrible person who has zero compunction about trashing someone’s son as they’re speaking about another child they tragically lost to brain cancer.


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...den-beau-biden

...lest we forget, as they say...

..’Americans react with anger, frustration and lack of concern’...

...apparently not all of his own people wish him well and they’ve lived with him.../...he’s impacted more on their lives...

...he really has been callous about many lives in many ways ...although I don’t ‘wish’ on anyone...even those who actually take lives in the most horrendous ways, I wouldn't feel sorrow but I could never ‘wish’...it would go against everything I believe in...but I also understand the strength of negative feeling about him because of the low value he himself has placed on human life that he personally doesn’t approve of, for whatever reasons he hasn’t approved of ...someone who would build his wall and would have tagged and dehumanised ...will then inevitably have a wall of emotion and caring, built around him ...even before his time as president, he’s shown such low character ...he screeched for the death penalty of the Central Park 5../...5 innocent men...and when they were found beyond all doubt and actuality to be innocent...he’s refused to acknowledge that innocence or apologise to them..he maintains that he was right to scream ‘Yay’ for their death sentences...it’s understandable that someone of such grim character who has placed such little value on the lives of others in different way, has frozen much positive emotion toward him that would have been there for others ...and there is still scepticism as well to be added to that...

..Twitter removing tweets that hope Trump dies of COVID.../... how Donald Trump's coronavirus infection blew up social media...



https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/do...020709651.html

I have called our PM and in fact his best whole Cabinet dangerously incompetent and in my view, along with many other families, his lack of provision and action did enable the deaths of elderly, who were among the most vulnerable anyway, in Care homes.

The incompetence of not preparing proper testing and supplies of adequate protection equipment being largely the cause of those deaths.

Trump has dismissed and talked utter dangerous nonsense on this virus.
Plus thrown caution to the wind for himself and to others too.
At his rallies.

However, I'll repeat, I wished Johnson a good recovery when he had it, despite my total contempt for the man as a leader.
In fact I don't think he'd fully over it yet.

So much for those who say it's just a flu.

Earlier I said I hoped Trump will get over this too.
I never wish death on anyone.
I also stated clearly I'd never wish this virus on anyone.
I've lost people to it and know how cruel, hateful and destructive it is.

However, we have to judge all leaders, on competence, care and justice from what they do when they win power.
So I will restate I do consider both the leader of the USA and our PM as having been dangerously incompetent.
I do in part hold Johnson and his government responsible for the environment that lost so many deaths of those who needed protection in Care homes.
I'll stand by all that and never think it disproportionate and irresponsible.

This is a truly evil virus.
The destruction it leaves can be life changing fir life and that's even if you survive from a vulnerable grouping.
Something Trump has played down.

However again, as I did with our incompetent leader, I hope again for the USA incompetent on this pandemic leader.
A full recovery and as soon as possible.
Because this is a very destructive virus, which IF it really gets hold of you, is cruel and frightening as well as likely fatal too.

All great and very strong posting there Ammi.
Well presented.

Its been reported he has a mild cough and headache, and has gone to hospital on advice of his doctors

Experimental medicine would be pretty useless on someone with very mild symptoms like that

If that's all he has I agree with you they wouldn't get much knowledge from an experimental treatment.

I'd be more inclined to think because of his age it's a precautionary matter to have him in hospital hopefully.

Yes, Johnson went to Hospital later in his time with it but he is far younger than Trump.
So it makes sense to, with him in his 70s, to keep him under observation in hospital.

...I just can’t fathom atm...’experimental’ being used on the President of the USA...

Apparently they are trying it out on him.
So I was incorrect in my assumption there.

I think its only experimental as far as Covid goes. Its been used successfully for other illnesses, Sars etc so I think its safe for human use but not proven for treating Covid as yet.

i'm still not sure if it's all true or not and that comes from the history of his administration flat out lying on a regular basis

What has become clear is that people were/are not being tested every day at the WH and the test they use under reports infection by 30%. They haven't been able to say when Trump was last tested before he was tested positive ... that's odd, and one scenario is that the reason he has a fever etc is because he has actually had the virus for a week already ... probably from the judge event the previous weekend. Which means he was infected at the time of his debate with Biden. That being the case ... it could take up to 14 days from the date of the debate for Biden to test positive, so testing negative yesterday is no indicator. This could get even more crazy yet

Smoke and mirrors :idc:.

...yep well...there’s that as well...

i don't think the chinese believe he has covid. Their response was to note reports that Trump had covid and wish him a speedy recovery

That's disgusting, just because he is isn't doing and saying what they want him too, what's wrong with some people,we wont all have the same views,what a boring world this would be if we did, I have no feelings towards him whatsoever ,I dont know him personally, but to wish him dead says more about that person who tweeted than him.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/13123...g&name=900x900


As Trump went to the Helicopter
for his brief flight to the Hospital
he Had to have a mask on.

Maybe they could check out his brain while they’re at it ...


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:joker:

Yes Covid-19 arrived
from China.

No way can that former President get the blame.

:joker:


well we all know whose fault it was...

many staff in white house got the virus now (i wonder if they got the virus from Donald at that one big government dinner)

Wonder if there’s a photo of the ‘staff somewhere...


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No many of his staff had it
Gave it to Trump.

yup heard it just now on CNN too

btw latest from them ''newsroom''

i don't have any confidence that the doctor is giving the full story

he dodged the question about oxygen at least 3 times and he wouldn't specify when trump tested positive

https://news.sky.com/story/trump-tes...dates-12084881


Yes the Doctors are Live.

he is doing well