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arista 18-11-2021 02:57 PM

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bots 18-11-2021 11:18 PM

Former cabinet minister Sir Geoffrey Cox earned £54,400 for legal work that he carried out in August, the latest details on MPs' earnings show.

They also reveal that Prime Minister Boris Johnson received free use of a suite at Heathrow Airport worth £1,800.

MPs must reveal any additional income - along with gifts, donations and shareholdings over 15% - in the register of members' interests.

It is updated every two weeks and MPs may be sanctioned if they don't comply.

The latest register shows Scottish Tory leader Douglas Ross made £6,728 for football referee work from November 2020 to January this year.

He had apologised for failing to fully record his MSP salary and earnings as a football referee.

Former PM Theresa May declared flights, meals and accommodation for three people worth £7,611 for a visit to San Marino.

Meanwhile, Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer has declared book royalties of £135.78.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59336581

:skull:

i would say that if an mp's earnings in parliament are not their main income then being an MP is not their primary job, its a part time top up to enable other income. That is wrong

arista 21-11-2021 01:53 AM

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arista 28-11-2021 11:01 AM

The by-election caused by the resignation
of Tory MP Owen Paterson will take place on
Thursday 16 December.



Was debated
on BBC1HD 10PM Politics England
Midlands


A Labour MP thinks their man can win.

arista 28-11-2021 11:08 AM

Dr Shastri-Hurst is the Conservative candidate
in the North Shropshire

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...r-county-seat/

arista 28-11-2021 11:11 AM

Labour by-election candidate
Ben Wood is a local lad.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...ion-candidate/

arista 28-11-2021 11:17 AM

Shropshire Council announced the 14 names.
They are:

Neil Shastri Hurst, The Conservative Party

Ben Wood, Labour

Helen Margaret Lillian Morgan, Liberal Democrats

Kirsty Rebecca Walmsley, Reform UK

Martin Edward Daubney, The Reclaim Party



Suzie Akers Smith, Independent
Andrea Christabel Allen, UKIP

Russell Fraser Dean, The Party Party
Duncan Alistair Kerr, Green Party[/B]
Boris Been Bunged, Rejoin EU
James Alexander Elliot, Heritage Party
Howling Lord Hope, The Official Monster Raving Looney Party
Earl Elvis Phillipe Jesse, Freedom Alliance The Real Alternative
Yolande Ann Kenward, Independent




https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...n-by-election/

joeysteele 28-11-2021 03:45 PM

Who knows.
Myself I think a likely fairly good Con win.

How I'd love to see otherwise however.

arista 28-11-2021 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11117202)
Who knows.
Myself I think a likely fairly good Con win.

How I'd love to see otherwise however.



Yes The Labour Fella
is a bit young
Lacking Experience?

arista 11-12-2021 01:07 AM

NewsnightHD BBC2
had their reporter there
the red faced Labour Lad was aged 2 in 1997
He really lacks experience.

But there is anger at the Westminster Trouble
we find out this Thursday
who wins?

joeysteele 11-12-2021 07:12 AM

I don't think age is a barrier to competence of being a good constituency MP.

Of course I'd love to see a Labour win here but I can't see it.

Okay there'll be a sleaze factor and the recent chaos of this PMs own making by his deceit.
That's not the fault of the new Con candidate however.

This has been a Con seat since it was formed.
Labour and Lib Dems have alternated as to being in 2nd place over the years.

The closest Labour came to winning it was in 1997 only.

The Labour candidate is a good one and I hope he does well.
Age doesn't matter however, how on earth is there going to be more young people coming forward for election if people are going to discount them because they're only in their 20s.
That surely shouldn't be even an issue.

Especially looking at the mess much older politicians in high office are making of things.

arista 11-12-2021 10:29 AM

"I don't think age is a barrier to competence of being a good constituency MP"


On this Labour Lad
he is not experienced enough
they should have picked,
an older fella.

arista 11-12-2021 10:32 AM

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Labour's lad Ben Wood.
Yesterday,from his own twitter feed.


Older helpers
have to help in.

joeysteele 11-12-2021 12:23 PM

Older members and volunteers always help in elections.
Regardless of the candidates age.

He's not going to be Prime Minister or in a high profile political position??

Plus he's past his mid 20s.
He's hardly just out of school.
He's only about 3 years younger than me in fact.

arista 11-12-2021 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11120982)
Older members and volunteers always help in elections.
Regardless of the candidates age.

He's not going to be Prime Minister or in a high profile political position??

Plus he's past his mid 20s.
He's hardly just out of school.
He's only about 3 years younger than me in fact.


Sure but watching
him on NewsnightHD BBC2
last night.
Showed him as a boy.

joeysteele 11-12-2021 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11120984)
Sure but watching
him on NewsnightHD BBC2
last night.
Showed him as a boy.


What??? :joker:

He's not a boy now.
He's from the area, his schooling was in the area.

arista 11-12-2021 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11121033)
What??? :joker:

He's not a boy now.
He's from the area, his schooling was in the area.




Yes but caught sticking out of a door
he looked like boy
not a man.


Great Interview on Friday's,
NewsnightHD BBC2

joeysteele 11-12-2021 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11121036)
Yes but caught sticking out of a door
he looked like boy
not a man.


Great Interview on Friday's,
NewsnightHD BBC2

Good lord!!

arista 13-12-2021 07:13 AM

SkyNewsHD
claim the LibDems can win this
the bookies say?

arista 13-12-2021 07:17 AM

https://www.shropshirestar.com/resiz...WD4S2IZJRQ.jpg
[Lib Dem leader Sir Ed Davey with North Shropshire
by-election candidate Helen Morgan and activisits.]


https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/...ib-dem-leader/

joeysteele 13-12-2021 07:44 AM

It's possible the Lib Dems may.
It depends on which voters band up behind the one more likely to win this strong Con seat.

I still think the Con candidate will win it.

arista 13-12-2021 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11121688)
It's possible the Lib Dems may.
It depends on which voters band up behind the one more likely to win this strong Con seat.

I still think the Con candidate will win it.



Yes it could be a late night race
between Conservative and LibDem.

arista 17-12-2021 03:27 AM

Lib Dems have Won.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ount-continues


[Helen Morgan, the Lib Dem candidate, took 17,957 votes,
ahead of the Conservatives’ Neil Shastri-Hurst, on 12,032,
a majority of 5,925.
Labour’s Ben Wood was third, with 3,686 votes.]


Ed Davey has Covid.
so Remote

bots 17-12-2021 04:20 AM

thats a simple statement by voters that they don't like sleaze or double standards. Im glad the tories lost it

Oliver_W 17-12-2021 05:43 AM

Losing such a "safe" seat, I wonder if a vote of no confidence is coming for BoJo. The backbenchers have been stirring for a while from what I hear, and that's who makes up the 1922 Committee...

Sorry if this has been discussed, but why was it the Lib Dems who were being bolstered as the replacement instead of Labour? I mean, obviously it worked as she won :joker: I read that some would-be Labours revolted because a well-liked candidate was deselected?

bots 17-12-2021 05:51 AM

i think it's a warning to the tories that the public won't stand for all the nonsense. They really need to up their game quickly

arista 17-12-2021 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollyver and Ivy (Post 11122929)
Losing such a "safe" seat, I wonder if a vote of no confidence is coming for BoJo. The backbenchers have been stirring for a while from what I hear, and that's who makes up the 1922 Committee...

Sorry if this has been discussed, but why was it the Lib Dems who were being bolstered as the replacement instead of Labour? I mean, obviously it worked as she won :joker: I read that some would-be Labours revolted because a well-liked candidate was deselected?


The Labour put up
a Boy.
To young.

joeysteele 17-12-2021 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11122931)
The Labour put up
a Boy.
To young.

This seat is NEVER going to be a Labour seat
It used to be in the main the Lib Dems as challengers really.

You aren't going to get Con votes here going to Labour.

The Lib Dems do seem to be regaining some trust in strong Con areas, after the rout of the Lib Dems post the coalition.

Labour votes, many of them, went tactically to the Lib Dems to get the Cons out.
It made perfect sense to do so.

This happening across the Country would see the Cons well beaten in a future election.

Labour carried out a lower key campaign.
I repeat there never has likely been a chance of and there never will be a Labour MP for North Shropshire..
It was right for Labour voters to support the Lib Dem.
Because in this seat, the Con votes that would change were always more likely to go to the Lib Dems.
So a good result.

Yes, it's a by election on under a half of voters turnout.
So this could return to the Cons in the next election.

Although the size of the new majority, 6,000, was unexpected.
I thought the Cons would hold on.
I never saw this result coming in this Con massive stronghold.

I support and was pleased to see Labour voters in a seat they can't ever win, putting their support to the party who could beat the Cons by taking the Con votes too.

It's unfortunate this kind of thing doesn't happen across the board actually.

arista 17-12-2021 09:18 AM

"You aren't going to get Con votes here going to Labour."



Very true Joey they Jumped
to our old bed fellows LibDems.

arista 17-12-2021 09:46 AM

Tim Farron had a Blue Boris Balloon
burst by the new MP.


He is there as Ed has Covid at home.


Tim is Bigging the win up
"Since the War"

arista 17-12-2021 09:58 AM

Many Conservatives
thought this would happen for this seat.


LibDems are Dreaming
they will not take UK power in 2024

smudgie 17-12-2021 02:52 PM

Hopefully it will send a message out to the Tories, they need to sort themselves out.

arista 17-12-2021 03:39 PM

Also confirmed
loads of Labour Voters jumped to LibDems.

arista 21-12-2021 10:32 AM

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