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Kizzy 18-03-2022 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glib (Post 11147275)
Well Kizzy if you didn’t know Boris doesn’t work in the Department for Transport anymore

Who said he did?... the Dft knew that's bad enough.

Kizzy 18-03-2022 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11147308)
no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast

It was an accurate prediction on the direction of post Brexit policy under a conservative government.

Not made as anything other than a suggestion based on my personal observations on what may and may not be affected if a yes vote was the outcome of the referendum.

It was not influenced by or expressed by any Labour MP at the time. Your accusations are groundless.

user104658 18-03-2022 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11147308)
no because it was an incorrect politically biased blanket statement that was made not to inform but to inflame based on tribal politics

it was a highly inflated claim that was made as a jibe

not as an actual forecast

I mean... the whole topic of this thread suggests that it was not an inflated claim at all... :think:

bots 18-03-2022 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 11147322)
I mean... the whole topic of this thread suggests that it was not an inflated claim at all... :think:

employment law was never the same throughout europe. I worked for a dutch based company at one time and when they reduced staff, the majority of staff went from the uk because it was almost imposible to dump staff in holland or france. Brexit hasn't helped because rights can deviate even further now, but employers have always been favoured in the uk over employees

arista 18-03-2022 09:44 PM

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arista 19-03-2022 08:36 AM

Conservatives are looking into
Legal action, slowly.

I am sure P&O were aware of the Fines,
but still went ahead Swapping Proper Paid workers
for £2:60 an hour, crew.

Also
DP world Logistics Dubai (they own P&O Ferries)
has contracts on some of
the new UK Free Ports
The Conservatives are locked in to that.




Sign Of The Times

Cherie 19-03-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147305)
How !?

They can’t be saving £150 a day per person surely !!

How much are they flaming well earning per day !!?


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Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

Vanessa 19-03-2022 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147398)
Conservatives are looking into
Legal action, slowly.

I am sure P&O were aware of the Fines,
but still went ahead Swapping Proper Paid workers
for £2:60 an hour, crew.

Also
DP world Logistics Dubai (they own P&O Ferries)
has contracts on some of
the new UK Free Ports
The Conservatives are locked in to that.




Sign Of The Times

Disgraceful!

Vanessa 19-03-2022 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147400)
Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity

Surely this is against the law?:shocked:

arista 19-03-2022 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147406)
Disgraceful!


Yes Contract to Free trade Ports
are already on going

DP World Logistics, Dubai
have power of their Government.

Zizu 19-03-2022 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147400)
Its not just the pay..they will no longer be responsible for paying pension contributions, holiday and sick pay or any other contracted rights like maternity/paternity


What about their replacements. ?


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Zizu 19-03-2022 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11147398)
Conservatives are looking into
Legal action, slowly.

I am sure P&O were aware of the Fines,
but still went ahead Swapping Proper Paid workers
for £2:60 an hour, crew.

Also
DP world Logistics Dubai (they own P&O Ferries)
has contracts on some of
the new UK Free Ports
The Conservatives are locked in to that.




Sign Of The Times


Well if we ( the government) have pumped billions into P&O over the Covid period then they must be made to either reinstate all the workers plus compensate them all as well ! Alternatively seize control of all the company assets


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glib 19-03-2022 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147408)
Surely this is against the law?:shocked:

Well so is their £2 wage but if they’re not working on the mainland are the laws applicable

bots 19-03-2022 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147416)
Well if we ( the government) have pumped billions into P&O over the Covid period then they must be made to either reinstate all the workers plus compensate them all as well ! Alternatively seize control of all the company assets


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BA did exactly the same with no consequence

Zizu 19-03-2022 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147418)
BA did exactly the same with no consequence


That’s simply disgraceful


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arista 19-03-2022 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11147418)
BA did exactly the same with no consequence



British Airways is still trading.
That's something in this China Covid time

The Slim Reaper 19-03-2022 10:18 AM


arista 19-03-2022 10:28 AM

Yes Slim
she voted against the Labour Bill.

She did that for Photos

Cherie 19-03-2022 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147415)
What about their replacements. ?


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They are agency staff...not directly employed by P&0

arista 19-03-2022 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147432)
They are agency staff...not directly employed by P&0



Happy to take a Lower Wage
as it is a job

Zizu 19-03-2022 11:22 AM

Can’t see agency staff being as experienced or reliable tbh

There has to be the potential for terrible accidents or even disaster if you have inexperienced people running a damn ferry !!



What are these people thinking


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Vanessa 19-03-2022 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11147440)
Can’t see agency staff being as experienced or reliable tbh

There has to be the potential for terrible accidents or even disaster if you have inexperienced people running a damn ferry !!



What are these people thinking


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Exactly. It doesn't seem safe to me?

Zizu 19-03-2022 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147442)
Exactly. It doesn't seem safe to me?


I would actively avoid using P&O in the future just on safety issues tbh


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Vanessa 19-03-2022 12:25 PM

I cant imagine working and not having holidays, a pension scheme or a decent wage.
This is modern day slavery!

Zizu 19-03-2022 07:21 PM

The authorities should simply not give them clearance to sail until they right their wrong

Seems simple enough


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arista 19-03-2022 10:53 PM

[P&O Ferries resumes limited service after
800 staff sacked - amid calls for firm to lose its licences

P&O Ferries sparked a furious backlash after 800
crew members were told this week they were
being let go with immediate effect and being
replaced with agency workers.]


[A Hull man recruited via an agency advert on
Facebook has shared pictures with Sky News
of security staff hired to escort him onto
the European Highlander at Cairnryan in Scotland
Mark Canet-Baldwin said he and more than a dozen
others were not told what ship they would be
working on and met the security workers
in a supermarket car park.]

https://news.sky.com/story/p-o-ferri...ences-12570625

AnnieK 19-03-2022 10:57 PM

I don't understand how any agency can pay under minimum wage to agency staff? I employ temps and we absolutely have to pay minimum wage, holiday pay and offer a pension scheme...its illegal for us not to.

arista 19-03-2022 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11147657)
I don't understand how any agency can pay under minimum wage to agency staff? I employ temps and we absolutely have to pay minimum wage, holiday pay and offer a pension scheme...its illegal for us not to.


It is to do with International Waters
not under UK rules.


A Legal Lawyer has stated this.


Annie you can employ temps
but you are not on a Ship in the Big Sea

arista 19-03-2022 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 11147442)
Exactly. It doesn't seem safe to me?


They are getting trained right now
before they set off

Cherie 20-03-2022 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11147657)
I don't understand how any agency can pay under minimum wage to agency staff? I employ temps and we absolutely have to pay minimum wage, holiday pay and offer a pension scheme...its illegal for us not to.

I heard on a phone in yesterday that a Brtish guy employed on P&0 cruises was paid 4 times more than his Filipino counterparts due to them having to comply with different countries laws on international waters

arista 20-03-2022 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147717)
I heard on a phone in yesterday that a Brtish guy employed on P&0 cruises was paid 4 times more than his Filipino counterparts due to them having to comply with different countries laws on international waters



Yes that's in the Papers
reviewed on GBnewsHD

arista 20-03-2022 08:14 AM

P&O
could end up as Freight Lorrys only

Alf 20-03-2022 08:16 AM

Is it just Dover?

What about the P&O ferries that sail out of Hull? The Hull to Rotterdham and Hull to Zeebrugge. Are those staff on the chopping block?

Cherie 20-03-2022 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11147724)
Is it just Dover?

What about the P&O ferries that sail out of Hull? The Hull to Rotterdham and Hull to Zeebrugge. Are those staff on the chopping block?

Its all routes, Hull included

Alf 20-03-2022 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 11147727)
Its all routes, Hull included

The bastards.

arista 20-03-2022 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11147724)
Is it just Dover?

What about the P&O ferries that sail out of Hull? The Hull to Rotterdham and Hull to Zeebrugge. Are those staff on the chopping block?



No it is all the Ports
even Scotland to Northern Ireland.


The Hull Captain stayed on his boat
he knew what was going to happen.


Some Boats are now nearly ready to go.
With some new £2:60 an hour fast trained staff

Alf 20-03-2022 08:28 AM

£2.60 ph. Isn't that against the law? That's bordering on full on slavery.

Cherie 20-03-2022 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11147730)
£2.60 ph. Isn't that against the law? That's bordering on full on slavery.

It’s against UK law yes hence why they have been replaced by workers where it isn’t the law

arista 20-03-2022 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11147730)
£2.60 ph. Isn't that against the law? That's bordering on full on slavery.


Of Course in the UK it would be illegal


But as Cherie
pointed out, International Waters
are not under UK laws



Alf
they are happy to be in a new job
even though it is £2:60 an hour

bots 20-03-2022 09:29 AM

the bottom line is would you trust slaves with your family's safety on board a ship? I wouldnt. I remember the zeebrugge disaster


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