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Denver 25-06-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11469495)
they know his phone was in that park area because it pinged from there when he made the calls

But that story makes zero sense has he apparently made the call but its now been proven Lucy made the call.

So she claimed he called to say he was lost and instead of going straight there she rang the police and reported him missing but now we know it was her who made the call so my feeling is she had his phone and put it in the mountain ready for someone far away using her phone to call his.

There is proof his phone was there but there has been zero proof found other than a witness saying he asked for a bus that he actually was there.

Also why did she set up the go fund me straight away with out the knowledge of his family

bots 25-06-2024 11:47 AM

whatever, they have records showing where the phone was located

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2024 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11469495)
they know his phone was in that park area because it pinged from there when he made the calls

Had he been kidnapped prior and this whole story been concocted it would have been easy to take his phone and make a short call from there knowing that it would be traceable

The snapchat "he sent" from the villa was a blurred pic of a hand holding a cigarette

Denver 25-06-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 11469493)
Yes, there's something very very odd about this whole thing

Not what part if this story has screamed missing person at all

bots 25-06-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11469502)
Had he been kidnapped prior and this whole story been concocted it would have been easy to take his phone and make a short call from there knowing that it would be traceable

The snapchat "he sent" from the villa was a blurred pic of a hand holding a cigarette

yeah, it's only proof his phone was there, nothing more

Denver 25-06-2024 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11469501)
whatever, they have records showing where the phone was located

And they searched the area non stop for days with no dna evidence he was there.

Also I find it dodgy how the Spanish police rejected helk from the British police? Wouldn't more feet on the ground be better? And why are they telling people where to search? Thats wild how they are saying go look there as if they are aware they know they won't find anything

Denver 25-06-2024 11:52 AM

I do think the police are involved in the cover up ,

bots 25-06-2024 11:55 AM

they don't want outside help because all they do is get in the way. You can try and find conspiracies if you like, but its probably one of two options

1. It's an elaborate scam to raise some cash

2. The guy has been killed, and that's probably entirely down to the company that he kept

Either way, they didn't scam me, and i'm not bothered about the safety of someone with a proven violent record

Denver 25-06-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11469515)
they don't want outside help because all they do is get in the way. You can try and find conspiracies if you like, but its probably one of two options

1. It's an elaborate scam to raise some cash

2. The guy has been killed, and that's probably entirely down to the company that he kept

Either way, they didn't scam me, and i'm not bothered about the safety of someone with a proven violent record

Criminal record doesn't exactly mean they deserve to be tortured or murdered though does it? And the British police would be of higher help to the Spanish especially when it comes to intelligence and being able to track down british witnesses and why are the Spanish police even refusing to speak with the British police over a British resident ? There is a huge possibility he may not even be in Spain and if that's the case then the British need to know

Niamh. 25-06-2024 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469516)
Criminal record doesn't exactly mean they deserve to be tortured or murdered though does it? And the British police would be of higher help to the Spanish especially when it comes to intelligence and being able to track down british witnesses and why are the Spanish police even refusing to speak with the British police over a British resident ? There is a huge possibility he may not even be in Spain and if that's the case then the British need to know

There's a difference though to not being bothered and thinking someone deserves to be tortured/murdered.

I agree with BOTS though, i doubt the Police are involved

user104658 25-06-2024 12:07 PM

It's not really a conspiracy to ask if the police are involved, if drugs and organised crime are involved, then the police are most likely also involved. Police corruption in Tenerife is sky high.

Seriously have a look into the "underside" of Tenerife (and most of these "party destination" islands) - fascinating stuff, and local law enforcement is 100% firmly interwoven with organised crime, either direct involvement or simply a tacit agreement to turn a blind eye.

user104658 25-06-2024 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469516)
There is a huge possibility he may not even be in Spain and if that's the case then the British need to know

Tenerife is nowhere near mainland Spain.

Denver 25-06-2024 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11469525)
Tenerife is nowhere near mainland Spain.

Still part of Spain though, my feeling is he is either in Morocco or floating in the sea half way to Morocco

user104658 25-06-2024 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469526)
Still part of Spain though, my feeling is he is either in Morocco or floating in the sea half way to Morocco

Yeah I just mean if he is alive and not still on Tenerife, he's more likely to be somewhere in North Africa than in Spain.

bots 25-06-2024 12:20 PM

lets put it this way. If he had been wandering around injured the likelihood is that they would have found him by now. So either he has been done in, or it was all a big scam. Either way, we know searchers have been out looking, with dogs. It's not like they are looking in the wrong area from the information provided and what would be gained from walking past a dead body. So, really, whether the police are corrupt or not is largely irrelevant.

What we do know is that the family and friends are dealing with it all quite strangely. I'm pretty sure the spanish police will give up the search pretty soon, and then it will all be forgotten about. It doesn't grab the interest like Madeline did

Denver 25-06-2024 12:23 PM

I disagree, I dont think this died down, social media and the public are obsessed with the case and will always search for answers

arista 25-06-2024 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11469533)
lets put it this way. If he had been wandering around injured the likelihood is that they would have found him by now. So either he has been done in, or it was all a big scam. Either way, we know searchers have been out looking, with dogs. It's not like they are looking in the wrong area from the information provided and what would be gained from walking past a dead body. So, really, whether the police are corrupt or not is largely irrelevant.

What we do know is that the family and friends are dealing with it all quite strangely. I'm pretty sure the spanish police will give up the search pretty soon, and then it will all be forgotten about. It doesn't grab the interest like Madeline did

Yes he was a young adult lad


Is he buried there?

MTVN 25-06-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469489)
Some things I want to point out

Both Brad and Lucy claim to have been the last to speak to him before his battery died but how is that possible?

Why is Brads mom in charge if a fb group and oart of the search and doing everything in her power to clear her sons name who has already flown home which is weird if you so called childhood best freind is missing.
The man who rented the air bnb was Lucy step dad

Why has his mom shown zero emotion and kept pushing the fact he was kidnapped with no proof at that time

Why do they need 30k but have not said what for? They are getting free food and accommodation in Spain.

Lucy and her step dad are known drugs mules in the area.
Was he even in the mountains to start? It seems suspicious that they have found no evidence or the dogs have been unable to find his scent anywhere or any blood from the leg injury he apparently had.

Why did his freinds allow him to go with strangers when he was clearly in no fit state to do so?

Lucy is freinds with Tom (who may I add is a pedo so please no sympathy) who ws attacked by a group Jay was involved in and he was in Tenerife at the time he
was missing.


Why are they not searching other places that they have been spottings of him.

Lucy started a gofund me last year for another man who went missing in the same area who was then found a week later beaten.

If he is mixed up in drugs than he is no longer in tenerife and is either being held hostage in Morocco or his body was dumped in the middle of the sea.

There was a boat that left the port near where he was apparently last seen at around the same time then turned its tracker off.

My gut feelings is it is all a scam to make money especially when his social media was logged into and im not buying the fact he told his mom all his passwords and you would need his phone to access it.

I also feel that he had nothing tk do with the missing drugs but is being blamed as an easy target.

Also a possibility its a revenge attack and I wouldn't entirely rule out being a victim of human trafficking

Whilst I am suspicious of this case I'm also suspicious of a lot of those claims above, especially the bolded ones. They seem like things that spread on social media through a series of Chinese whispers without actually being true

user104658 25-06-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469535)
I disagree, I dont think this died down, social media and the public are obsessed with the case and will always search for answers

Only a small niche, people go missing in these places all the time it just so happens that this one grew Social Media and press legs. It won't be the current water cooler chatter in a couple of weeks, there'll be something new. You will of course get a few hardcore "truthers" who will attach themselves to this specific case. Maybe a Netflix doc in a few years to hype it all up again for a couple of months.

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2024 01:10 PM

could be anyone


https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=789

Denver 25-06-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11469539)
Whilst I am suspicious of this case I'm also suspicious of a lot of those claims above, especially the bolded ones. They seem like things that spread on social media through a series of Chinese whispers without actually being true

You only have to look on the insta and Facebook account to see they are freinds and have been at numerous events together,

And as for the gofund me the records are there for all of public to see

arista 25-06-2024 01:12 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9313943661.jpg

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2024 01:20 PM

If he had decided to walk for a bit there is zero evidence to suggest he would deviate from the road so this whole "he could be in some ravine" thing seems too ridiculous

bots 25-06-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11469554)
If he had decided to walk for a bit there is zero evidence to suggest he would deviate from the road so this whole "he could be in some ravine" thing seems too ridiculous

yep, it makes zero sense. He would be on the road. He could easily hitch a lift from a passing car

Gusto Brunt 25-06-2024 01:34 PM

He's either been secretly smuggled back into the UK, or he's been murdered and buried on the island.

user104658 25-06-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 11469560)
He's either been secretly smuggled back into the UK, or he's been murdered and buried on the island.

Why would they bring him back into the UK? If alive he'll either be still in Tenerife or Morocco.

Gusto Brunt 25-06-2024 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11469563)
Why would they bring him back into the UK? If alive he'll either be still in Tenerife or Morocco.

So he can spend the money that's been raised. Maybe he was hoping for more. I think it's frozen at £32,000.

Only a theory. :smug:

Denver 25-06-2024 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11469559)
yep, it makes zero sense. He would be on the road. He could easily hitch a lift from a passing car

And I find it strange the only witness ti seeing him there was the woman he spoke to, there must have been loads of cars passing at that time

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2024 02:03 PM

Can you start taking money out the Go Fund me account anytime and even if you took out say 10K the figure you and I see remains unaffected?

Denver 25-06-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11469570)
Can you start taking money out the Go Fund me account anytime and even if you took out say 10K the figure you and I see remains unaffected?

Yes so it only actually shows the amount raised and not any thats been taken, so they could have applied to withdraw everything and we won't ever know

MTVN 25-06-2024 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Denver (Post 11469550)
You only have to look on the insta and Facebook account to see they are freinds and have been at numerous events together,

And as for the gofund me the records are there for all of public to see

Okay so what's the link to the gofundme for the previous guy who disappeared but then was found beaten up?

arista 25-06-2024 02:30 PM

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06...9324547144.jpg

[Pictured: British hiker, 51,
found by search teams hunting Jay Slater - as he insists
he 'didn't need saving' from ravine
and accuses Tenerife police of trying to
'show how good they are'

David Larkin was discovered by
police and mountain rescue teams on Friday]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...fe-ravine.html

Crimson Dynamo 25-06-2024 02:45 PM

https://tattle.life/attachments/schofe-jpg.3016325/

user104658 25-06-2024 02:45 PM

"I'm only half way through my walk!"
"Shut up we're saving you."

Niamh. 25-06-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11469584)
"I'm only half way through my walk!"
"Shut up we're saving you."

:laugh:

The case that keeps on giving

Beso 25-06-2024 03:32 PM

https://youtu.be/XL26Kd0o3BM?si=n0LCEMFf_r3ATjFF

Ammi 26-06-2024 07:12 AM

…the ‘sightings’ are getting a bit crazy …one of the latest being that there are several sightings by locals that Jay has been seen watching the Euro football matches in public…I mean, he hasn’t been in touch with family or friends for days and knows there are searches for him …but he’s watching football and living the life…?…no, the sightings are silly….


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2568240.html

Ammi 26-06-2024 03:05 PM

This Morning under fire over Jay Slater coverage - as missing teen is 'spotted' in Tenerife…

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/morning-u...110329013.html


…this case must be such a highlight of the very worst of social media platforms…

bots 26-06-2024 03:09 PM

It's like sightings of Lord Lucan :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 26-06-2024 03:13 PM

I mean true crime and crime are the most popular topics of books, film and TV. So why people think cases like this wont have lots of people gripped and in full speculation mode is a really hot take


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