I kiiinda think you should finish All-Stars, especially if the ending isn't what you expected it to be. You'll probably find some joy out of the FTC, I'm sure.

And I know there's no stopping you, but I wouldn't recommend starting with all the seasons with returning players. Oh wel, enjoy~

Thanks! No problem

Yeah you might find more enjoyment starting with the earlier seasons and going through rather than jumping around (like I've done when re-watching. Oops), just so you can see the evolution in gameplay and how certain characters change etc

i absolutely will! major apologies again!

Never saw this post.

Did you say you went to school with Ethan or something lol?

I wasn't really a fan. It's just very meh and as you say the gameplay is dull. Likeable people get voted out early. Either All-Stars or Thailand is my least favourite out of the first eight.

I think my issue with All-Stars is just that it's soooooo negative and depressing, like nobody had any sort of fun whatsoever. Like, it starts off with Jenna's quit and then there's the Sue/Rich thing and then there's the Lex/Rob thing and then there's the Chapera/Shii Ann thing and then there's that random Rupert/Tom thing you probably forgot about and then there's the Final TC AND THEN there's the reunion... yikes. It's nonstop negativity and a longer season than usual so it's just dire all around.

Also, I know we haven't Gotten There yet and we probably never will since Raph ragequit but what are our thoughts on Kathy's jury speech? I know some people think it was brilliant in how raw n real it was but I think it was largely pathetic! Sorry Kathy, but I can't really empathize with someone who was so grossly judgmental towards others in the face of real tragedy all season long ("cancer to the tribe" "core of hatred" etc.)

for reference...

^Yeah, I think it was pretty melodramatic and she'd gotten far too caught up in it all. 'It's just a game' after all.

Right, let's see if I can get through another episode of Tocantins without falling asleep in the middle of it

Sandy mustn't be there anymore

She is not

I really liked both Kathy and Alicia's jury speeches at the time (of my first watch of All-Stars). I understand why someone would dislike Kathy on All-Stars, but personally I thought she was okay. Just extremely underwhelming in contrast to her appearance on Marquesas where I adored her.

Just to clarify, I disliked Alicia on All-Stars and her jury speech is quite irritating on reflection.

Alicia was a horrible cow tbh. Shii Ann' was my favourite S8 jury speech :love:

Decided to go for survivor 30 next because so Kim is so beautiful :lovedup:

I know she goes first (/sob) but seems to be a really good cast apart from bae as well and I like the ways the tribes were divided. Pumped! :D

So and Joaquim = dream couple :love:

Spoiler: it sort of isn't

End of Episode 1

End of Episode 1:

1. So - sad times :( but I like 1-8 a lot!
2. Shirin
3. Mike
4. Joaquim
5. Joe
6. Carolyn
7. Max
8. Rodney
9. Hali
10. Nina
11. Tyler
12. Jenn
13. Will
14. Sierra
15. Lindsey
16. Kelly
17. Dan
18. Vince

So Kim more like So What............x

So was absolutely nothingness and I rave about practically anything Asian.

I've always preferred Doo myself

"I'm a white collar haha we Make The Rules"
"I'm a blue collar and Rules Are Meant To Be Followed"
*sees someone wearing a peace sign necklace* "oh you just LOOK like a no collar aka a stain on society :) :) :)"

Flashbacks to mental giant

At least BvBvB makes sense as a theme (and has been proven to work) (twice)

such positivity as always in this thread :laugh:

it actually matches the tone of Worlds Apart so it's appropriate

End of Episode 3, loving this season and Joe is the best!

1. Joe
2. Shirin
3. Hali
4. Mike
5. Joaquim
6. Nina
7. Max
8. Rodney
9. Carolyn
10. Tyler
11. Will
12-14. Kelly, Lindsey, Sierra (literally still can't tell them apart alol)
15. Dan
16. Jenn

I love how by episode 4, each tribe has lost once. Makes it so interesting!