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Kazanne 12-03-2019 06:07 PM

This is also really interesting to read no wonder people doubt the documentary.

https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/...kpRfyg_kR7X6zA

GoldHeart 12-03-2019 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10475623)
This is also really interesting to read no wonder people doubt the documentary.

https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/...kpRfyg_kR7X6zA

:clap1:

Beso 12-03-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10475623)
This is also really interesting to read no wonder people doubt the documentary.

https://talunzeitoun.com/2019/01/30/...kpRfyg_kR7X6zA

What's the lads name?

Beso 12-03-2019 07:00 PM

Talun Zeitoun – Blogger, artist & New Yorker covering fashion, grooming ...
https://talunzeitoun.com




Teeheee....grooming.

Beso 12-03-2019 07:06 PM

Google his name Kaz, on google picture search...ignore the photo shopped MJ one and concentrate on the fashon shoot ones (cause that's all there is) tell me the ain't all taken in one day...



Your links fake, probably set up by Jermaines frantic fingers.....looking for something to do rather than count Mj's dollars.

user104658 12-03-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10475687)
Google his name Kaz, on google picture search...ignore the photo shopped MJ one and concentrate on the fashon shoot ones (cause that's all there is) tell me the ain't all taken in one day...

There are in fact two different pictures of him "with Michael" and both of them are photoshopped. Badly. :facepalm:

Beso 12-03-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10475809)
There are in fact two different pictures of him "with Michael" and both of them are photoshopped. Badly. :facepalm:

Jermaine should have gone to specs avers.

Kazanne 12-03-2019 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10475687)
Google his name Kaz, on google picture search...ignore the photo shopped MJ one and concentrate on the fashon shoot ones (cause that's all there is) tell me the ain't all taken in one day...



Your links fake, probably set up by Jermaines frantic fingers.....looking for something to do rather than count Mj's dollars.

So if you think it's fake he goes into a lot of detail which proves it can be done , I will have a look properly tomorrow watching Bachelor UK now :joker:

GoldHeart 13-03-2019 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10475872)
So if you think it's fake he goes into a lot of detail which proves it can be done , I will have a look properly tomorrow watching Bachelor UK now :joker:

Yeah a lot of details for a fake story,unless he's a fantasist like wade & James.

If this guy said Michael abused him and wrote war & peace on his "horrific ordeal" , I bet then people would believe it and not call it fake or Photoshop :facepalm: .

Beso 13-03-2019 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10475872)
So if you think it's fake he goes into a lot of detail which proves it can be done , I will have a look properly tomorrow watching Bachelor UK now :joker:

OK, just dont come back thinking I will shout at you like some people.

Kazanne 13-03-2019 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10476056)
OK, just dont come back thinking I will shout at you like some people.

:laugh: I won't Parmy, :wavey:

GoldHeart 13-03-2019 07:40 AM

Wait i'm confused why is this Talun's story being discredited just because it's a positive one? . I bet if he was saying MJ abused him then it's instantly believed :bored: .

Interesting how 2 known liars have hoodwinked alot of people despite all the lies and inconsistencies .

user104658 13-03-2019 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10476065)
Wait i'm confused why is this Talun's story being discredited just because it's a positive one? . I bet if he was saying MJ abused him then it's instantly believed :bored: .

Interesting how 2 known liars have hoodwinked alot of people despite all the lies and inconsistencies .

I haven't read enough about it to discredit him but the picture is photoshopped. I mean, that's not a "theory" it just... is... you can see that it is, surely?

Kazanne 13-03-2019 08:58 AM

I found this Parmy
https://www.mjworld.net/news/2019/01...fends-michael/

His name is Talun,I do a lot of photoshopping myself If that first pic is a photoshop it's really well done the second one does seem a little different,but could be down to the skin colours being so different but I cant be sure on this one. but his story is seems very well detailed and I am sure if untrue someone would have come out of the woodwork.This is what he said about that pic.
Spoiler:

talunzeitoun
Michael and me in 1995 photographed by Jonathan Exley in between takes on the set of the “SCREAM” music video. One year later, this photograph became a full-page centerfold in the HIStory World Tour book (swipe left). It ended up being a treasured photograph of his, framed on his grand piano in Neverland Ranch, even beyond his passing. As to whether it’s still there or not, I’m not quite sure. For those of you asking “how?”, he considered himself my “older and protective brother” (in writing) as my mother @janetzeitoun was his hairstylist and dear friend since before I was even born. Beyond our personal affiliation with him, we share with the rest of the world the impact his music had on us; in many ways, he was a spiritual teacher through music. While I don’t like to dwell on the negative, I have to get one thing off my chest: I think it’s important to note that he was torn apart by greed, brutally false allegations, and a collective unwillingness to appreciate the beautiful differences in humanity; all cruel weapons used to this day, and more disturbingly within those of higher political power. And the very people who brought him down now live sick to their hearts forever in regret, wishing he were still with us today. It’s a shame that now, 9 years gone, Michael has yet to have a proper museum and memorial for the world to experience his life (his garments, for instance, have been wrongfully sold off for profit and Neverland has been left to ruins). His life is just a vivid memory in my head, my mother’s, his family’s, his children’s, and those else who were dear to him; the stage and what was seen on TV for the rest. Alright, on to a more positive note, thankfully his music and legacy as the greatest musician of all time has transcended it all and will last for eternity. Happy Birthday #MichaelJackson. Miss you dearly.

Vicky. 13-03-2019 09:50 AM

There could be thousands and thousands of 'he didn't touch me' stories and they still would not discount the ones who say he did, thats not quite how it works. Many kids who came into contact with Saville could say he never touched them, what would that prove? Genuinely not seeing it, though its not me desperate to prove he is innocent. Not invested in it either way tbh, but it does seem, to me, that its likely he was a nonce...and if not at the very least he behaved inappropriately with many children :shrug:

That Talun Zeitoun is gorgeous...but yeah, the photos of him with Michael really do look photoshopped, and not photoshopped well either.

Vanessa 13-03-2019 10:34 AM

But these two have said on the trial that nothing happened. Now they both changed their minds? Seems fishy to me.

Kazanne 13-03-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 10476101)
There could be thousands and thousands of 'he didn't touch me' stories and they still would not discount the ones who say he did, thats not quite how it works. Many kids who came into contact with Saville could say he never touched them, what would that prove? Genuinely not seeing it, though its not me desperate to prove he is innocent. Not invested in it either way tbh, but it does seem, to me, that its likely he was a nonce...and if not at the very least he behaved inappropriately with many children :shrug:

That Talun Zeitoun is gorgeous...but yeah, the photos of him with Michael really do look photoshopped, and not photoshopped well either.

Well he did give the name of the photographer,sure he would have denied this pic :shrug:

Niamh. 13-03-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 10476128)
But these two have said on the trial that nothing happened. Now they both changed their minds? Seems fishy to me.

Would you say it's more or less fishy than a grown man sharing his bed with random 7-11 year olds he befriends? :think:

Vanessa 13-03-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10476138)
Would you say it's more or less fishy than a grown man sharing his bed with random 7-11 year olds he befriends? :think:

He was cleared in court. That's good enough for me. Police followed him for years and found no evidence whatsoever. I.need some evidence before I believe any of it.

Niamh. 13-03-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 10476139)
He was cleared in court. That's good enough for me. Police followed him for years and found no evidence whatsoever. I.need some evidence before I believe any of it.

So was OJ. Good job avoiding my actual question though :laugh:

Vicky. 13-03-2019 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 10476137)
Well he did give the name of the photographer,sure he would have denied this pic :shrug:

Maybe, no judging on the photoshop thing really, just really does look very photoshopped to me :laugh: Makes no odds really if it is or isn't.

Vanessa 13-03-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10476141)
So was OJ. Good job avoiding my actual question though :laugh:

Yes thats not right, but it doesn't mean he was guilty.

Niamh. 13-03-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 10476151)
Yes thats not right, but it doesn't mean he was guilty.

In my view, at the very least it makes him guilty of extremely inappropriate behaviour around children (namely young boys of a certain age)

AnnieK 13-03-2019 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldHeart (Post 10476065)
Wait i'm confused why is this Talun's story being discredited just because it's a positive one? . I bet if he was saying MJ abused him then it's instantly believed :bored: .

Interesting how 2 known liars have hoodwinked alot of people despite all the lies and inconsistencies .

You have instantly believed it because you believe MJ to be innocent though - its no different to people disbelieving it because they believe his guilt :shrug:

Quite possibly is true his account, if his mum was on Jackson's payroll, he will have spent time with him. If it is true, his mum obviously spent a lot of time in Jackson's inner circle and was close to him, makes sense that if he was an abuser he wouldn't have abused this boy - he liked to keep the parents more at arms length rather than have them working closely with him.

Vicky. 13-03-2019 11:02 AM

Also to be clear, I am not discrediting his story at all. I just don't think stories coming out of kids he did not touch, have an bearing on those who say he did touch them :shrug: Pedos don't tend to abuse every kid they come into contact with. Thought that was well known, but seemingly not.


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