Yes 2 years back


Not any good now


Corbyn
soon to be Exiled
at the next Election

It's not about Corbyn, it's about Starmers vision - and the vision in that vid, is way, way different to the reality of the empty suit that now exists.

From 2020


That useless for 2023


Talk Sense Slim.

It's actually more and more relevant. if you think more austerity is the way to get through a CoL crisis on the back of 12 years of austerity, then you really are as stupid as the person you present.

Bold and brave is what's needed, not a meeker version of the tories.

Infinity bore

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Yes you can. Keir. the tories stopped building houses years ago - invest in a massive house building programme to provide cheaper living and create good union jobs, to pay taxes back in, then build amenities around the new houses for the new buyers/renters to spend their money in, further boosting local and national economies.

If both parties are running on the same platform, then the governments of both parties are willing to sit back and allow people to die to protect corporate and donor interests.

Choice is an illusion in the UK.

THis man knew and warned everybody. Fcuking shambles of a country

Yes Slim

But at the next Election
Corbyn will be gone from the Labour.



No good, keep going back in time

If you can't keep going back in time, why do tories rely on the same policies they've since thatcher, despite the fact they have never proved successful or for the benefit of the country?


He'll retain his seat if he wants to.

Personally I hope he starts a party and takes enough of the left with him to leave right wing labour without any hope of gaining power without working with the left.

Labour - the party of NHS privatisation

If only it was possible to take that money and invest it directly in the NHS, without the need for companies who donate money to politicians, to take their cut, first.

Yes Half in the NHS
Half private


So Starmer is modifying the Conservative way

The conservative way

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Keir has got it sussed, I take it all back.

so he is basically parroting tory policy

Yes, but in a caring way.

We love a carrying way

There's parallels here with 1997.

I found Sunak's speech just useless from a Prime Minister.
Cutting the NHS waiting lists for example.
No target, no numbers even just to be hoped to be cut.

I guess if he cut them by 100 he could claim success then.

However am I impressed with Starmer's speech.
NO.
In fact it was on the surface of content more a non event than Sunak's .

I want this Con government out because of all the Parties in Westminster they are, by their hardline heartlessness the Party that only deserves to lose.

However, I recall reading that Blair in 1997 promised that if he won, he'd keep to the then Cons spending plans for the first part of his premiership.

I understand fully that if you CANNOT win an election then you don't have power so can do nothing.
How the Country is at present however and what the voters look like they'd support.
This IS likely the point where more radical policy making should be looked at and adopted.

Starmer left everything short of any detail.
That's in part understandable but he does need to spell out much more as to detail.

His green energy policy is spot on.
Meantime though, what about the energy crisis particularly as to the cost for people now.

Okay he says more will be revealed over the weeks to come.
Well that's fine however a lot needs spelling out.

I still say if he wants to really reform politics for good then go for PR as policy .
However for me he should look again and seriously look to energy being taken back into public ownership.

Overall today however Starmer has disappointed me and his reluctance to really forcefully stand up for the workers of the mail, railway and across the health sectors battling against this heartless hopeless government.
That is now really annoying me as to his reluctance to do that.

The performance he keeps giving however is just like Blair's up to 1997.
Looking back at the things Blair could and should have done after his wins.
However didn't do so.
Was for me, a squandering of the 2 biggest overall majorities since the war.
I hope history is not going to repeat itself.

Starmer has the opportunity to show a whole real good vision of change across the Country.
I hope fear of losing won't have him doing a Tony Blair.
Failing to offer and implement the policies needed and which it seems the voters WANT as well.

Not going weaker on policies to win, determined to go stronger should be his motto.

Hope you had a good Christmas and new year, joey.

Unfortunately, the financial situations of 97 and now are worlds apart. Blair could hop on the growth of a booming economy, pushed on by the incoming house bubble that was to explode a decade later.

Starmer doesn't have that guarantee, so it needs to be an ambitious platform based on the pledges he used to get elected, and the previous manifestos he stood with.

"Unfortunately, the financial situations of 97 and now are worlds apart."


Bang On Right Slim.

Yes, I edited it

Caring way.


I mean't to say

I did Slim.
Hope you did too.
Happy new year to you.

I agree, I wish he would stand on most of the pledges he made.
Starmer irritates me, always has.
However it may be he is going to be gifted, mainly by the Cons own hopeless performances, a unique chance to make strong and effective change.
Not.just for now but for well into the future too.

Keir is using Brexit Slogans Now

"Take Back Control."


Good debate on LBC now

Don't vote for right wing parties, people.

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