Excellent !!

Which one ??

Get researching how soon the first jab starts giving some useful protection and report back here :)

I’ve seen reports from ... day 10 or day 12 to 13 or day 21 !!


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it was AZ for me. They said to be careful for 3 or 4 weeks

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Yays:dance:

Great news BoTs. You feel ok?

So the EU has millions of doses of the Oxford vaccine in storage because they didn't want to use it and have stoked up concerns about it in their populations but now they block Australia - a country that actually wants to adminster the vaccine - from receiving doses that they've paid for?

so far, so good :laugh:

Congrats bots :bigsmile:

there will be pay back for the way they have behaved at some point. On this occasion I'm quite glad not to be a part of the EU

Well done to those who got the vaccine.
It's so important to get it, so we can have a normal life back soon.

Definitely feeling the effects of it today, seriously groggy head. I look on it positively though, it means my system is busy generating an army to fight off the invaders :laugh:

Take.it easy today BoTs. Hope you feel better soon

...tiredness/grogginess seems to be the side effect we’re hearing mostly but only a day or two and not the worst side effect, when we think...just go with it and flow with it, bots....you’ll have no time to sleep soon, well soonish when we’re more fully at the end of the tunnel...:hug:...

Boost those antibodies :dance:

Just been reading on the Citizens Advice forum for Spain that some expats who access healthcare via private health insurance have been turned away even with residencia from signing up so they will be called for their vaccine, they have been told to go back to their country to get it :skull:

Me and my mum got our jags on Monday I was fine but my mum was ill for a full two days

87 people who have died after receiving the vaccine, now here in Netherlands

Two more off the TiBB list :dance:

the EU are starting to look very petty in all this, their reputation is going to take a permanent hit. The money that the expats have pumped in to the spanish economy pays for any vaccine needs, but that seems quickly forgotten.

But they need 2 Vaccines,

The issue here is..older quite ill people are getting it.

Its the same problem I saw with using the very blunt '28 days after a positive test' for numbers of covid deaths. A lot of these people were very frail, and could very well have died without covid, or without the vaccine.

I don't think it helps anyone really to say they died of the vaccine, or because of the vaccine, unless that can be proven in some way. When you give a medical treatment to a lot of elderly people, sadly, some will die. I suspect it is a much lower number than would have died with covid though really :S Not that that would be any comfort to the families of those who *might* have died from vaccine side effects though I guess.

Gavins got his in half an hour :)

it could just as easily be linked to it snowing, but that wouldn't make a headline

Exactly.

You will be feeling better tomorrow.
Get some rest today.