Once Sierra apologies for not taking a flipping opportunity and continuing to support evil, I'll allow her a pass!

It's also quite amusing that given Brad and Troyzan are in this cast, Max probably would have been as well if he hadn't leaked s31

That sucked :(

putting this in spoilers for Raph's sake

Yeah I feel the same way who even are Hali and Sierra :joker: End of episode 11, what an amazing tribal council that was! Was so confused though as I thought Mike had used the immunity idol on Shirin but what a clever play that was - I am loving the way Mike plays this game.

End of episode 11:
1. Shirin
2. Mike
3. Rodney
4. Tyler
5. Sierra
6. Will
7. Dan
8. Carolyn

End of episode 12:

1. Mike
2. Rodney
3. Tyler
4. Sierra
5. Carolyn
6. Will
7. Dan

I plan on starting to watch the OG Survivor seasons tonight.

I'm using alluc.ee to watch but the only season I can actually find episodes for (out of like the first 5) is season 1. Am I missing something or do they not have the early seasons?

I think a load of links were taken down or blocked recently, I've had a harder time finding episodes than usual in the past few months

Daaamn

Well at least they have Borneo (hopefully all of it) so I can start with that.

Oh no! Hope that means I can find Africa (3) when I get to it! Team Ethan all the way!

I watched some of 16 yesterday on Alluc. vodlocker

Borneo is soooo weird to watch after watching a bunch of Survivor already but not in a bad way (although there's plenty of flaws to it IMO but it's been a fun season to watch). I just got done watching the first merge episode. It's been pretty entertaining up to this point and there's a lot of good characters. It's also nice to see how alliances originated but difficult to watch since I prefer the Pagong tribe a bit more and Colleen/Gervase/Jenna are three of my faves. (however I didn't like Gretchen / thought she was boring so I'm fine with that particular boot)

It's hard to see such little strategy (if any for some people) being used by anyone outside of Richard's alliance. Like is Sean seriously voting in alphabetical order? :joker:

It also kind of hurts the edit too because a lot of the time it's like "why is this person even going?" ... like Gretchen going didn't make any sense, I didn't expect her at all. And in the prior boot the reason for Joel being voted off was because he was chauvinistic but we didn't even get to see that - there was just a comment by Gervase and Joel got grouped in and suddenly everyone is saying how chauvinistic Joel is in their confessionals... :joker: Also, a lot of boots before that had very basic reasoning behind it. I'd like to see more after the immunity challenges but it seems like that's something they improved on over time. I guess it was a different game/show at the time so I can understand that this was just how people viewed the game but the producers should be showing more after immunity than just Person A saying they think they're going to vote for Person B which in some cases has been completely out of left field.

With that aside, the season is still entertaining though. Something I think they've been doing right in Borneo that they have kinda failed on during future seasons is that the competitions are pretty short and sweet and there's pretty solid character development aside from a few. There's a lot of "WTF" going on in this season which I'm not against either. :joker:

Oh and random thought but... I don't like Rudy at all (probably least favorite out of the people left and he's been one of my least favorites since the beginning) but I found him really funny this episode with his reactions to the group talking about sex stories and stuff and then needing his space while sleeping. I'll maaaybe start to appreciate him in like an ironic sense but maybe it was a one-off episode.

Ok so nvm about Gretchen. This episode is building off of last episode and explaining why they went with voting her off so that's fine then. Lmao at Rudy just saying it was his idea.

Greg was alright for a while but sucked towards the end. On the other hand, I'm suddenly finding Rudy to be hilarious for the past two episodes now.

Also, I thought that was a really good episode. The season is still holding on strong despite becoming predictable at this point (even if I didn't already know the winner I think).

The cast & boot order has been very good this season.

Mid-season ranking before I go to sleep:

Colleen
Gervase
Jenna
Richard
Kelly
Susan
Sean
Rudy (as opposed to red earlier on & lately I like him, I could put him up a few spots)

Greg would've ended up last on this list, also in orange. He was kinda likable but got a bit annoying towards the end.

There's not too many all-time favorite people for me (maybe there will be by the second half because they kind of all have potential) but I like / enjoy watching a large amount of the cast and the people I didn't really care about are all gone.

Richard/Kelly/Susan are all pretty good but I change my mind on how much I like them a lot. Richard is entertaining enough in the winner edit role and a really likable guy. Susan is pretty funny but hasn't been too involved lately; I liked her more earlier on. Kelly seems different from Cambodia but likable once again (although in Cambodia she did barely have an edit so I kinda don't know how different she really was). Colleen & Gervase have been my top 2 basically all season long. I really like their attitudes. Jenna is pretty lulzy and very likable. She's like a sweet/messy combination. Sean bored me for a while but once he transformed into a full on goofy/clueless edit he's gotten a lot better lol. I thought Rudy was awful at first but I guess he's growing on me now as well.

Borneo is so awesome, between the fantastic cast and the rawness of it all being the first season, and also I just find it so fascinating how it develops from something so innocent to 'snakes & rats'.

My personal favourites were Sue, Sean and Jenna. I liked Kelly too, I found Richard to get increasingly annoying as the season went on.

If (when) I get round to doing re-watches, Borneo is top of the list :love:

Well, nevermind about going to sleep... I was tired and planned on just stopping in the middle of the episode that I had started but before I knew it the episode got reeeally good and I couldn't stop. :joker: This season is reeeally picking up from pretty good to really great.

Colleen SHINED that episode :love: :love: :love: Susan got better/funnier again this episode too. Oh and more emphasis on Sean's alphabetical order voting strategy. :laugh3: Jenna going with Sean being the deciding vote. </3

I actually completely forgot (or never knew) that Wiggles was in the final 2. The whole season I was trying to figure out who would be in the final 2 with Richard.

Damn she totally got Woo'd way before Woo did. :joker: It was predictable throughout but when Kelly won the final immunity challenge, even knowing that Richard makes it, I was surprised she would make that decision. I thought Rudy would win the final immunity & take him.

I'm not too satisfied with the final 5 / end game tbh. It was an amazing season right after the merge (and good before then) but it kinda fizzled out towards the end. I expected it to play out with that final 5, and it's still not a bad final 5 group, but it could've been a lot better with at least a portion of Colleen/Gervase/Jenna there. Rudy/Richard/Susan all got worse (mainly entertainment-wise) and Sean got entirely boring again but probably the most rootable out of the 4. I really liked Kelly even more at the end though.

Rudy during the jury questioning. :joker: Idk he's just randomly hilarious to me at times.

Susan sucks during this jury questioning. She's probably rubbed me the wrong way more than Richard towards the end.

Yeeees Gervase in this final vote confessional!!! :clap1: Preach :laugh3:

Ok so now that the season has sunk in for a little bit... overall that was definitely an enjoyable season and honestly better than I was expecting.

Cast Ranking:

1. Colleen (for sure #1 and with a strong finish she's somewhere up there with my all time favorites)
2. Gervase (also a strong finish and even though I did somewhat like him already in his other season, he was way better here)
3. Jenna
4. Kelly
5. B.B.
6. Stacey
7. Sean
8. Richard (it's hard to put him lower since I liked him quite a bit for a good portion of that season but he did get a bit annoying & tedious towards the end)
9. Dirk
10. Susan (tough one to rank because the ones directly below I just found kinda irrelevant while with Sue I enjoyed her for a bit and slowly liked her less until she was just annoying during the final episode or two)
11. Greg (similar to Susan but also didn't have that much of an impact)
12. Gretchen
13. Sonja
14. Joel
15. Rudy (tough to rank as well since I didn't like him for like 10 episodes and liked him for maybe 3 sooo idk... #12-14 were just whatever to me so Rudy either goes here or right below Susan/Greg)
16. Ramona (mildly disliked until her final episode)

Idk it looks like a bad cast having so much orange now and not much green but I did really enjoy this cast regardless. :clap1: I just wasn't highly invested in too many people but there were a lot of quality castings even if I found a few annoying at times. I might've initially overrated the cast though because I was hyped up while just getting through the best stretch of the season. :joker:

Greg, Richard, Coleen, Rudy :love:

I had the same experience with Rudy, I started out being all ':umm2:' at his opinions but then came to appreciate him given his age and the time of filming. He was unintentionally hilarious, I laughed for ages at that scene where he's going on about the girls practicing lesbianism or some **** :laugh2:

Yeah that was hilarious :joker: I'd like him more if he was funny more often but it was only a few instances for me personally. Unintentionally hilarious is a good way to put it though. :joker:

Also his reaction to Greg talking to his sister as if they were incest.

And speaking of that... Greg got kinda weird towards the end between that, the way he exited, his jury 'question' and sniffing the marker before casting his winner vote (probably more weirdness as well). :joker: Greg was ok to me but he also annoyed me towards the end.

What season are you going to watch next?

I want to watch Australia next but I can't find it anywhere. :(