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Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11004622)
we can look that up ourselves

I personally like the stats.

Alf 21-02-2021 08:59 PM

Good battle going on for those champions league places.

Leicester and West Ham Arne't letting up, I thought they'd have dropped off by now.

I still wouldn't write Liverpool off, they've got plenty of talent in their team, they just need a win for confidence.

I still fancy us to make it, I think we're a strong organised team with goals in us.

Chelsea bother me, where have they crept up from?

Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 11004644)
It's hard being the only City fan on the forum surrounded by people who's teams lose 5 games in a row that's all x

Poor Blues having our poor form dragged into this.:bawling:

Alf 21-02-2021 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11004877)
Poor Blues having our poor form dragged into this.:bawling:

I see it's a relegation battle for your lads, Mock.

Some of my best memories as an Everton fan were two last day of the Season relegation deciders. We won them both, which is probably why they're good memories.

It's better than being mid-table with nothing to play for, like Arsenal.

Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11004878)
I see it's a relegation battle for your lads, Mock.

Some of my best memories as an Everton fan were two last day of the Season relegation deciders. We won them both, which is probably why they're good memories.

It's better than being mid-table with nothing to play for, like Arsenal.

Yeah I suppose it's not a bad way to look at it as it does keep the season interesting.:laugh:

I suppose though if we do get relegated at the end of the season then the Arsenal fans will be the happier camp out of the two fanbases with their mid-table finish.

And it's weird to think of Everton ever being in a relegation scrap as they're such a huge club, and you guys are having a fantastic season.

It really is good to see teams like Everton and West Ham doing so well this season, and even Aston Villa I suppose as it promotes the City of Birmingham in a good light for talented Footballers.

But seriously good luck to Everton, I've been waiting a long time to see them win a League someday, along with Spurs.:laugh:

GiRTh 21-02-2021 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11004878)
I see it's a relegation battle for your lads, Mock.

Some of my best memories as an Everton fan were two last day of the Season relegation deciders. We won them both, which is probably why they're good memories.

It's better than being mid-table with nothing to play for, like Arsenal.

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Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11004885)

:joker:

In all seriousness this season will never erase how successful Arsenal have been as a club.

When we beat you guys in the 2011 League Cup Final has to be one of my best memories as you guys seemed so formidable compared to our team.

Before Leicester won the Premier League in the 2015/16 season I did always see our League Cup triumph as the greatest achievement that an underdog team had achieved from what I've seen anyway.

Alf 21-02-2021 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11004885)

I'm sure the good times will come back again soon, Your Majesty.

GiRTh 21-02-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11004889)
:joker:

In all seriousness this season will never erase how successful Arsenal have been as a club.

When we beat you guys in the 2011 League Cup Final has to be one of my best memories as you guys seemed so formidable compared to our team.

Before Leicester won the Premier League in the 2015/16 season I did always see our League Cup triumph as the greatest achievement that an underdog team had achieved from what I've seen anyway.

That game was when it all started to go wrong. Wenger managed to keep to it going thru just respect for a while but Arsenal haven't had a true top four teams since well before Wenger left. Wengers getting into the Champion's league every year papered over the cracks.

GiRTh 21-02-2021 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf (Post 11004890)
I'm sure the good times will come back again soon, Your Majesty.

I hope so. I like Arteta. Hes shown already thats he's no tactical genius. So he needs to get these players playing in a way that justifies why the board took a chance on him.

Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11004891)
That game was when it all started to go wrong. Wenger managed to keep to it going thru just respect for a while but Arsenal haven't had a true top four teams since well before Wenger left. Wengers getting into the Champion's league every year papered over the cracks.

Wenger was a great Manager in fairness.

Your ownership definitely has a lot to answer for imo as he is clearly favouring his American Sports teams over Arsenal, which if he won't invest in the club then he shouldn't be owning the club imo.

What are you thinking of Arteta as a Manager out of interest? Don't worry I've just read your post above.:laugh:

GiRTh 21-02-2021 10:11 PM

First half of Wenger was amazing, second half not so great.

I like Arteta but I have big issues wit the way we play. The defence is actually OK. I dont like seeing David Luis in the line up at all. In fact I think Gabriel was outstanding before he got injured.

The midfield needs alot of work - Nothing new its been a problem for a while. I still dont like Xhaka as a anchor, he's too slow, too one footed, he must be easy to play against. Partey looks like he cant play two games in row without getting injured but he looks like a bargain. Fans, though, are already speculating he may be the new Abu Diaby.:laugh:

The biggest problem is up front. Even though we have a striker who most would say was deadly in Aubameyang, we struggle to score goals. Arteta is trying to play five front players but most of them dont fit their role. Without going into too much detail, for example Bellerin. He's playing as like an old fashioned inside right when we get into the final third, with Willian/Pepe further out on the flanks. Liverpool have Mo Salah in that position, Man City have De bruyne/Gundogan. Immediately you see the problem

joeysteele 21-02-2021 10:28 PM

I'm stunned Steve Bruce is still in his post at Newcastle.
I think I said in a poll on here Newcastle could go down this season.
I didn't think I'd be right in that.
However their position is looking bad.

It's not a club I'm bothered much about, no disrespect to any Newcastle United fans..
It's a club though which warrants doing better than it is and has been for this season so far.

Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11004907)
First half of Wenger was amazing, second half not so great.

I like Arteta but I have big issues wit the way we play. The defence is actually OK. I dont like seeing David Luis in the line up at all. In fact I think Gabriel was outstanding before he got injured.

The midfield needs alot of work - Nothing new its been a problem for a while. I still dont like Xhaka as a anchor, he's too slow, too one footed, he must be easy to play against. Partey looks like he cant play two games in row without getting injured but he looks like a bargain. Fans, though, are already speculating he may be the new Abu Diaby.:laugh:

The biggest problem is up front. Even though we have a striker who most would say was deadly in Aubameyang, we struggle to score goals. Arteta is trying to play five front players but most of them dont fit their role. Without going into too much detail, for example Bellerin. He's playing as like an old fashioned inside right when we get into the final third, with Willian/Pepe further out on the flanks. Liverpool have Mo Salah in that position, Man City have De bruyne/Gundogan. Immediately you see the problem

It's nothing personal against Xhaka but I agree with you that he just isn't good enough to be wearing an Arsenal shirt imo.

Partey looks like he has potential, but I have noticed that he does get injured a lot, I do wonder if he'll end up being a waste of money.

And yeah the tactics going forward don't sound great, it explains why Arsenal are struggling to score goals.

At least you don't remove your wingers when playing two strikers up front like we did against Millwall though.:joker:

Mystic Mock 21-02-2021 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11004908)
I'm stunned Steve Bruce is still in his post at Newcastle.
I think I said in a poll on here Newcastle could go down this season.
I didn't think I'd be right in that.
However their position is looking bad.

It's not a club I'm bothered much about, no disrespect to any Newcastle United fans..
It's a club though which warrants doing better than it is and has been for this season so far.

Hello Joey.:)

Hopefully Steve Bruce is getting ready for a second stint at Birmingham City.

In all seriousness though I do agree with you that Newcastle United are too bigger club to be facing yet another relegation fight this season.

Out of interest Joey is there any Geordie teams that you have a soft spot for? I was interested because you've spent a lot of time in that part of the country so I was wondering if any of their teams ever grabbed your attention in a positive light.

GiRTh 21-02-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11004909)
It's nothing personal against Xhaka but I agree with you that he just isn't good enough to be wearing an Arsenal shirt imo.

Partey looks like he has potential, but I have noticed that he does get injured a lot, I do wonder if he'll end up being a waste of money.

And yeah the tactics going forward don't sound great, it explains why Arsenal are struggling to score goals.

At least you don't remove your wingers when playing two strikers up front like we did against Millwall though.:joker:

Every Arsenal manager loves Xhaka. I have no idea why? He puts a shift in but he 's not good enough. I kinda feel sorry for him but is a cut throat business.

This kind of brings me to Mattéo Guendouzi. Remember him the player Arteta sent out on loan for disciplinary reasons? He's playing well at Hertha Berlin - not so good today though :laugh:. Playing so well I think he should be recalled. A midfield of Partey and Ghendouzi looks good to me.

The line up I went thru were when we lost all those games at home last year. Arteta compensated by Putting Saka out on the right - we have big problems attacking on our right hand side - and he BTW has been easily our best player this season. No else is close to Saka for Arsenal player of the season.

joeysteele 21-02-2021 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 11004913)
Hello Joey.:)

Hopefully Steve Bruce is getting ready for a second stint at Birmingham City.

In all seriousness though I do agree with you that Newcastle United are too bigger club to be facing yet another relegation fight this season.

Out of interest Joey is there any Geordie teams that you have a soft spot for? I was interested because you've spent a lot of time in that part of the country so I was wondering if any of their teams ever grabbed your attention in a positive light.

None really Mock no.

I was more in the Manchester region really.

Birmingham is my main team and they wrecked my nerves in their last match but won.
Phew!!
Then I was born in Worcestershire, so more Midlands was my English area.

Man Utd is a team I admire though, my Grandad, admired how they rebuilt and came back from the Munich air tragedy.
I latched onto Man Utd from him.
That's probably the closest to the more North teams I like.

I have a soft spot for West Ham too

No disrespect to City fans but Man City irritate me too.

Just looking at the table now however, if Newcastle lose their next match and Fulham win again.
Then Newcastle will be in the bottom 3.
Plus Brighton one place above Newcastle have a game in hand too.
I'm sure I said on here I thought Newcastle may go down this season, never thinking I'd be right.

I'm not yet of course.:joker:

Zizu 22-02-2021 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11004915)
Every Arsenal manager loves Xhaka. I have no idea why? He puts a shift in but he 's not good enough. I kinda feel sorry for him but is a cut throat business.



This kind of brings me to Mattéo Guendouzi. Remember him the player Arteta sent out on loan for disciplinary reasons? He's playing well at Hertha Berlin - not so good today though :laugh:. Playing so well I think he should be recalled. A midfield of Partey and Ghendouzi looks good to me.



The line up I went thru were when we lost all those games at home last year. Arteta compensated by Putting Saka out on the right - we have big problems attacking on our right hand side - and he BTW has been easily our best player this season. No else is close to Saka for Arsenal player of the season.



I thought Guendouzi was great when he was playing for you ... and he was only very, very young .

Looked to be a star in the making







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Mystic Mock 22-02-2021 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 11004915)
Every Arsenal manager loves Xhaka. I have no idea why? He puts a shift in but he 's not good enough. I kinda feel sorry for him but is a cut throat business.

This kind of brings me to Mattéo Guendouzi. Remember him the player Arteta sent out on loan for disciplinary reasons? He's playing well at Hertha Berlin - not so good today though :laugh:. Playing so well I think he should be recalled. A midfield of Partey and Ghendouzi looks good to me.

The line up I went thru were when we lost all those games at home last year. Arteta compensated by Putting Saka out on the right - we have big problems attacking on our right hand side - and he BTW has been easily our best player this season. No else is close to Saka for Arsenal player of the season.

I never get it when teams send some of their better players out on loan.

And I have noticed Saka's potential, I am expecting him to be in the England squad.

Mystic Mock 22-02-2021 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11004918)
None really Mock no.

I was more in the Manchester region really.

Birmingham is my main team and they wrecked my nerves in their last match but won.
Phew!!
Then I was born in Worcestershire, so more Midlands was my English area.

Man Utd is a team I admire though, my Grandad, admired how they rebuilt and came back from the Munich air tragedy.
I latched onto Man Utd from him.
That's probably the closest to the more North teams I like.

I have a soft spot for West Ham too

No disrespect to City fans but Man City irritate me too.

Just looking at the table now however, if Newcastle lose their next match and Fulham win again.
Then Newcastle will be in the bottom 3.
Plus Brighton one place above Newcastle have a game in hand too.
I'm sure I said on here I thought Newcastle may go down this season, never thinking I'd be right.

I'm not yet of course.:joker:

Oh I knew that you liked Blues and Man Utd (they're great teams of course) I don't mind West Ham either actually, I'm happy to see Moyes also do well after he had a horrible time of it at Man U (I had to do it Alf) also MTVN's posts make me smile every time they win a game.

Yeah I'm not in love with Man City either, I respect what they've achieved in such a short space of time, but they're just not one of my favourite teams.

If we go to form then Newcastle are gone imo, however I expect them to pull out a big win and doom one of Fulham or Brighton.

If you do get Newcastle to go down on here then well done.

Nicky91 22-02-2021 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Calderyon (Post 11004656)
Thank you both.

you're welcome :love:

Calderyon 22-02-2021 04:52 PM

I thanked Leathertrumpet and Black Dagger in that post, not you Nicky.

Nicky91 22-02-2021 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Calderyon (Post 11005221)
I thanked Leathertrumpet and Black Dagger in that post, not you Nicky.

no you do a good job on here Cald :love:

Cherie 22-02-2021 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11005087)
you're welcome :love:

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Originally Posted by Calderyon (Post 11005221)
I thanked Leathertrumpet and Black Dagger in that post, not you Nicky.

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Originally Posted by Nicky91 (Post 11005228)
no you do a good job on here Cald :love:

:joker: gotta love Nicky

GiRTh 22-02-2021 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizu (Post 11004937)
I thought Guendouzi was great when he was playing for you ... and he was only very, very young .

Looked to be a star in the making







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He's a great prospect so I hope we dont sell him over some issues off the pitch.


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