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bots 04-07-2024 04:25 PM

For many people, it's not apathy to not vote, it's a conscious choice to not vote. There is a big difference

arista 04-07-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11472760)
For many people, it's not apathy to not vote, it's a conscious choice to not vote. There is a big difference


OK
but what do you wish for?

bots 04-07-2024 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11472761)
OK
but what do you wish for?

i want the traditional tory party back

arista 04-07-2024 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11472763)
i want the traditional tory party back


I assume that could happen.

MTVN 04-07-2024 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11472746)
Jeremy Corbyn
@Jeremycorbyn

Today, Palestine is on the ballot.

If you re-elect me as an Independent MP in Islington North, I promise to always stand
up for the people of Gaza, and for the only path to a just and lasting peace: an end to
the occupation of Palestine.

https://x.com/mishtal/status/1808879084425924697

No it isn't m8

deluded old fool

:facepalm:

Corbyn loses his seat around 2/3am this evening :dance:

Crimson Dynamo 04-07-2024 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11472765)
Corbyn loses his seat around 2/3am this MORNING:dance:

:fc:

bots 04-07-2024 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11472765)
Corbyn loses his seat around 2/3am this evening :dance:

1 poll has him winning and another has him losing, so it should be a good popcorn moment with a couple of recounts to keep us busy in between the 15 cabinet ministers :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 04-07-2024 04:44 PM

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...eg?imwidth=960

Our Kate arrives with Glen and Jordan

Oliver_W 04-07-2024 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11472746)
Jeremy Corbyn
@Jeremycorbyn

Today, Palestine is on the ballot.

If you re-elect me as an Independent MP in Islington North, I promise to always stand
up for the people of Gaza, and for the only path to a just and lasting peace: an end to
the occupation of Palestine.

https://x.com/mishtal/status/1808879084425924697

No it isn't m8

deluded old fool

:facepalm:

Luxury beliefs.

The only people who see a war that's on the other side of the Med as a priority in the UK show they either aren't facing any real issues, or don't care about those who are.

MTVN 04-07-2024 05:10 PM

Just goes to show that Boris carries the least blame for Tory defeat

https://i0.wp.com/order-order.com/wp...56%2C720&ssl=1

Liam- 04-07-2024 05:12 PM

Short memories

user104658 04-07-2024 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11472732)
I just couldnt vote labour now after the blood scandal cover up. Dont know how anyone could.

There's no party that doesn't have one scandal or another though so you either have to pick one, or not vote. IIRC the blood scandal spanned both Labour and Tory govts. in the 70's and 80's, it didn't end until the early 90's.

bots 04-07-2024 05:42 PM

i think there are going to be a ton of recounts tonight. They reckon a third of seats will end up with majorities less than 2000. So it could be a very long night

Beso 04-07-2024 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy (Post 11472776)
There's no party that doesn't have one scandal or another though so you either have to pick one, or not vote. IIRC the blood scandal spanned both Labour and Tory govts. in the 70's and 80's, it didn't end until the early 90's.

I've voted one that wasnt involved in the blood scandal.

joeysteele 04-07-2024 05:54 PM

What we are picking up is a strong number of Labour voters certainly down South, will be swinging behind the LibDems to help keep out a Con or defeat a Con.

There's likely to be more than usual tactical voting on a more planned scale this time.

Crimson Dynamo 04-07-2024 05:56 PM

No one isnt voting Tory because of Liz Truss :joker:that is bollocks, but they are for Partygate and for the huge increase in illegal migrants and failed multiculturalism

50% of Hounslow is non-Brittish:skull:

London is cooked

that is why

MTVN 04-07-2024 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11472779)
i think there are going to be a ton of recounts tonight. They reckon a third of seats will end up with majorities less than 2000. So it could be a very long night

Apparently over 2,500 postal votes not delivered in Kemi Badenoch's constituency as well so any majority under that could be subject to a recount as one example

MTVN 04-07-2024 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11472785)
No one isnt voting Tory because of Liz Truss :joker:that is bollocks, but they are for Partygate and for the huge increase in illegal migrants and failed multiculturalism

50% of Hounslow is non-Brittish:skull:

London is cooked

that is why

Strongly disagree, Truss was the single biggest blow to the Tories credibility

Party gate was forgiveable especially as Boris himself barely did anything. Crashing the economy was not

MTVN 04-07-2024 06:19 PM

Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100 :joker:

bots 04-07-2024 06:21 PM

Truss caused actual financial harm to the country. Having a drink at a party did not

bots 04-07-2024 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 11472792)
Currently enjoying my post vote pint. Sadly no dogs at my polling station

Labours odds for winning in my constituency are 1/100 :joker:


even though i haven't voted, i'm still very interested in the result and what the public saying fu to the tories will do to the future political landscape. It will also be very funny if the likes of Cleverly lose their seats

James 04-07-2024 06:32 PM

Making Liz Truss Prime Minister (and the process of that leadership election) was a huge political own-goal, and the main reason they are so far behind in the opinion polls. The government lost their credibility very quickly.

Beyond that though, this is a Covid election. It is part of the pattern seen across Western democracies of governments becoming unpopular and being voted out as countries deal with the after-effects of the pandemic.

MTVN 04-07-2024 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 11472799)
Making Liz Truss Prime Minister (and the process of that leadership election) was a huge political own-goal, and the main reason they are so far behind in the opinion polls. The government lost their credibility very quickly.

Beyond that though, this is a Covid election. It is part of the pattern seen across Western democracies of governments becoming unpopular and being voted out as countries deal with the after-effects of the pandemic.

Well that's true, I do think any government would probably fall after this long in power and particularly when there have been global events that would have severely negatively impacted people even under the best government

The Tories could have done a little bit less badly than they will end up having done though

bots 04-07-2024 06:40 PM

i think there is just general dissatisfaction across the largest financial countries with populations just not getting the reward they feel they deserve for many, many years. I think this would be true even without covid and the war in ukraine.

This is also why immigration is a hot topic. When the economy is doing really well, no-one gives a stuff about immigration

MTVN 04-07-2024 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11472803)
i think there is just general dissatisfaction across the largest financial countries with populations just not getting the reward they feel they deserve for many, many years. I think this would be true even without covid and the war in ukraine.

This is also why immigration is a hot topic. When the economy is doing really well, no-one gives a stuff about immigration

Yeah agreed, the general global trend of the last 50 years has been towards more open borders and freer trade but people don't feel like that delivers for them anymore. We're at maybe the biggest tipping point in geopolitics and economic progression since WWI


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