I always suspected this was you

She looks like she raided the wardrobe of one of the skinheads from This is England.

It’s very Doctor’y. I like it and I can’t wait for the new series.

I will try and get to see it out of morbid curiosity, like watching a train wreck, but that view is out there and it is not just guys being sexist, so you can not write them off.

It’s still a pathetic reason though.

How is it a train wreck though? You're not making any sense? It's a train wreck because they've cast a woman in the role? You clearly believe that yourself, so I don't know why you're covering it with "the view is out there" like something out of the X-Files. :nono:

"The View Is Out There"

"I Want To Believe (in misogyny)"


:shrug: I mean maybe it will seem forced and awful, or maybe it'll be a breath of fresh air... I'm not sure how anyone can claim to know until we've actually seen it!

Plus, I've said before, I was convinced that I'd hate both Matt Smith and then Capaldi and I like both in the role in their own ways. Smith is still my fav doctor, though that seems to be an unpopular opinion :joker:.

It is sexism though when they fail to explain how it's a train wreck. As we have seen nothing about how the show will actually unfold under the new producer or with the new actor in the role, the only reason they have to think it's a train wreck is because the new actor is female.

I said like watching a train wreck, not that it was a train wreck.

There is a difference.

There have been a number commentators out there who disagree with the casting decision, like my female friend who say it won't work and it is ruined. Those commentators have explicitly stated they will not watch it.

Like watching a train wreck is an expression referring to something utterly ghastly but you can not help watching.

I at least will give it a chance, is what I meant.

That's a bad analogy then; you could say it's more like watching a plane coming in for a really rough landing. You're pretty sure it's going to burst into flames when it hits the runway, but you accept that MAYBE the pilot will nail the landing and the plane will be OK.

Also, having a female friend who says it's ruined doesn't mean that the sentiment isn't misogynistic... Women can misogynistic too, oddly enough.

That said I don't think it is always from a place of misogyny... Different people have different interpretations of the character and there's no "right to wrong" answer there. It's fiction and everyone views a narrative differently... So for some people, the doctor being a man may well be part of their concept of his identity. That isn't "incorrect", but nor is the argument that Time Lords are biologically fluid.

And of course... None of the above can be used as "evidence" that the upcoming show will be awful OR great. No one will really know what they think of it until we see it in action.

Rumor coming out about the Xmas Special ending

Mess

Why is Steven Moffat obsessed with the show's past it's so annoying.

Idgi

I feel like Im gonna overexplain or just explain what you already know AND i'm lowkey scared my understanding is wrong but basically:

Right okay. Yeah I watched since Ecclestone, but forgot all the in and out details.

Ahh yeah tbh series 4 is always one I've got hazy memories on so I getcha!

Not just the past but his past. He can't let anything go.

It has the 5:30pm time slot on Xmas day

So I've recently had a rewatch of new who and I've realised that I've given Steven Moffat such a hard time and Russell T Davies run wasn't as perfect as I remember. Like his obsession with Rose was honestly so annoying to re watch and season 2 had some awful episodes. in hindsight Moffat was pretty good like this last series was phenomenal, amy and rory were brilliant companions and the 50th anniversary was great. My only problem with him really were his grand convoluted story arcs and how the companions would always end upping 'special'....

also I'm opening up to the idea of the doctor being a woman, I just hope it's not a social justice stunt and it actually works with the story.

:clap1: I still say Matt Smith's journey as The Doctor is the best so far, especially if you binge-rewatch it over a week or so and the contrast of the fishfingers and custard guy from his first ep, to the moment he regenerates as Capaldi, is really vivid. He really felt like he had "aged" and changed in that incarnation - and he is supposed to have lived for several hundred years as the Matt Smith incarnation... travelling alone for a lot of it, picking up Amy and Rory intermittently as they also live a normal life (but it's implied that from his perspective he's sometimes been travelling around for decades between visits) and also living out an entire, presumably centuries long, relationship with River Song, and then hundreds of years in the war on Trenzalore.

IMO it's a much more interesting way of doing it than the more "linear" Eccleston / Tennant arc.

It's probably a bit of both - the "SJW" movement is more prevalent now than it was during the other Doctors' casting, so would possibly have more of an influence - HOWEVER that doesn't mean she can't be well-written and give good performances.

Tell that to the suffragettes

Yes thats what I meant but there has been pressure for the doctor to be a woman for a while now and it was ignored with matt smith and Capaldi so I hope this is them thinking that its now the right time rather than them caving in. At least it's not Moffatt writing for the first female doctor because much as he has grown on me his strong, badass woman trope that always seems to fall into just wouldn't work.

Perched!

:umm2: Scarlett Moffatt and badass, why does this sound weird

It sounds weird because no one mentioned Scarlett Moffatt

Yas Clara

Well he's dead rip

And she's dead already

I already love her

Queen of falling

What a load of ****e

Excited for Jodie though

Honestly that episode was a low-key trainwreck but that may be because my family spoke over the telly about how **** everyone else's Christmas dinners looked like so I had no idea what was going on but the last 15 minutes :flutter:

Omg I fell in love with her there and then.

What a load of rubbish that episode was though. Bye Moffat.

I expected a proper trip through memory lane knowing Moffat.

The last 10 minutes was fine, the rest was boring af.

Things I liked about this episode:

• Bill appears and owns her gender and sexuality, ICON
• rusty reappearing
• I swear I heard Doomsday among many other past DW songs. Idk why but I had shivers hearing Doomsday
• It was really obvious the Captain would be related to the Brigadier but it was so lovely to hear "Lethbridge Stewart"
• the way the regeneration scene was filmed. it just felt... beautiful
• Claras back!! all the doctors since 9 have seen all of their long-term (tv show at least) travelling companions before their death (11 didn't see Rory but who Did?) so it was nice that tradition continued
• She was on screen for 30 whole seconds but I already love Jodie
• "Oh brilliant!" :love:

I quite liked it, other than the fact that there was literally no plot