Season over, crisis underway, and going out the champions league on wednesday. Had enough.

Rodgers out?

No, but he needs to wake the **** up and sort it out

Hope so then we can have him.

I hope you're joking there Girth

Anybody over that fool we've got in charge. I'd take Paul Lambert thats how desperate I am for some new ideas.

All the guys in this channel who back Wenger sound like idiots. Listen to them. ITs quite sad to hear them talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yndM...UU0Uix&index=2

I mean hes stubborn and declining, having another stubborn manager like Rodgers wouldn't work at all. He wouldn't fit the club at all. There are probably only 2 or 3 managers in the league i'd have over Arsene right now.

I'd take about 6 or 7 managers over him.

List all the managers who are in the Prem and rank them in order in terms of the job they've done over the past 5 years. Where does Wenger fall on your list? 2nd? Top? He's in the bottom half on my list. He is not getting the best out of the resources available to him and many others could do just as good a job. I dont agree that only one or two managers could do better

When you take into account the style of football managers play, can they attract players, what type of players they've signed in the past then i'd say Martinez and Ronald Koeman would be the only two realistic managers in the league that could manage us. The third id have is Mourinho but thats not even a realistic option, or an option at all. Who are these 6 or 7 you'd have?

Arsenal aren't getting anyone better than Wenger. This Pep or Klopp pipe dream :joker:

You can't even put Klopp in the same list as Pep. Klopp has loads to prove still, he's not an unrealistic option at all.. that'd just depend what other options he has if he was ever available.

Pocthettino would make us harder to beat; exactly what we need so I'd take him right now, the three you've mentioned, Rodgers, Pellegrino and there is a case that Wenger has done no better job than....Hughes, Lambert etc. I'm sorry but Wengers performance in the past five years in comparison to other mangers at lesser clubs is not any where near good enough.

#WeWantRedknapp

Noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!

It'd be 4-3 every week.

Poch is good but Koeman has made Southampton even harder to beat now despite selling their 2 best defenders last season and Spurs are crumbling at the back now so i'm not all that sure he'd make us harder to beat. Wengers done a better job than the rest of the names mentioned too.. we went through stages of having Bendtner, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou to name a couple who all played regularly and we consistently finished in the top 4.. but with this current squad top 4 shouldn't be an achievement at all. I would be done with football if we were ever linked to anyone like Hughes or Lambert.

Lambert :joker:

Come off it Girth

I'm using Hughes and Lambert as examples of managers who have done well with a fraction of Arsenal resources. Lamberts job at Norwich was sensational in comparison to Wengers predictable season every year.

I really dont buy that only one or two managers in the wrold could do better. I think many managers could od juyst as well.

You mention BEndtner etc, but what about Song, Van Persie, Cesc, Clichy, Nasri. Five players who were all playing for us less than five years ago were sold and went on to win a championship at the club they went to. I'm not talking about one or two players I'm talking about 5, half the regular side from a few years ago. Please tell me why none of those players were ever involved in a serious championship run during their time at Arsenal but went on to win at another club. Wegners had the players and supporters need to stop making excuses for him. OK we can say Barca were already a championship team before those players joined but Man City werent and Man U had just lost the league when they bought RVP. Wengers is running out of excuses. He's had players that are good enough there can be no doubt about that.

I'm joking a little but not much. I have truly lost faith in Wenger and I think any one of a number of managers could be just as big a failure as he's been.

I'm not denying hes failed in the past 5 years but you were comparing him to Hughes and Lambert. When we start comparing him when he was up against the likes of Fergie & Mancini a few years ago then yeah he failed miserably. It's no wonder they all won trophies. RVP left during his prime & went under the greatest manager, Nasri & Clichy joined one of the most expensive sides in the world and Cesc & Song joined one of the best sides i've ever seen.

Why is it no wonder they won when they left but they were never even close at Arsenal? I stress again that we are talking about HALF of the team from five years ago. I don't get what you're trying to say. Do you think Wenger hasn't had players who were good enough? I'd totally disagree if that is what you are saying.

I'm not really sure where you're getting that idea from considering i've been agreeing with you about his failure (apart from disagreeing Hughes and Lambert have done better with their squads), i've said he's failed in the past 5 years with the squads hes had overall though.

But you can't compare City or Barca to the squads we had at the time. Yeah we had some great players but that also came with a bunch of mediocre players like the ones i mentioned earlier.. RVP's back up was Chamakh, we've had Djourou and Squillaci playing at the back, Coquelin playing in midfield with them, Andre Santos at the back a few years ago too. They moved to clubs where they are surrounded by World Cup, Champions League or League winners. Thats been Arsenes biggest **** up and is currently the most annoying thing about him.. he gets half the squad correct, then refuses to fill in the missing gaps to give him that title challenging squad. It's no wonder all our star players want to leave.

Agree.

You mention Squillaci and Santos. Two more huge Wenger ****** ups. I feel like posting my - Gary Cahill should be an Arsenal player rant - that I;ve posted on here a few times. Of course Squillaci was the dead beat Wenger signed after his p*ss taking bid for Gary Cahill was turned down my Bolton and as for Santos he was one of the panic buys after the 8-2 thrashing by Man U.

The litany of charges against wenger is growing every year - The players he's sold and never replaced, players he's made p*ss taking bids for, his lack of tactical acumen in big games, his stubbornness. He has done a poor job over the past few years.

Well.....damn LOOL

What is Van Gaal's win %... Wiki says 38%

Let's wait for the season to end.


Pls confirm Moyes>Rodgers though.