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arista 23-04-2023 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11283394)
Diane Abbot has been suspended from the labour party because of an article she wrote on racism

:skull:


About time

arista 23-04-2023 10:50 AM

[Diane Abbott has Labour whip suspended
after 'hateful antisemitic' remarks suggesting
Jews do not face racism
Sunday 23 April 2023 11:40, UK]

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abb...acism-12864141

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65365978

What a Stupid Comment
after Keir Starmer
sorted all this mess



I think it may go Front Page
Monday

bots 23-04-2023 11:10 AM

busted

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...09543.jpg.webp

joeysteele 23-04-2023 12:22 PM

She really cannot help herself at all can she.

Really she'd be well advised to step down now.
I've now no time for her ridiculous and inflammatory outbursts.

Really offensive statement.

Crimson Dynamo 23-04-2023 12:28 PM

she is a hateful bigot

Oliver_W 23-04-2023 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11283404)
She really cannot help herself at all can she.

Really she'd be well advised to step down now.
I've now no time for her ridiculous and inflammatory outbursts.

Really offensive statement.

Outburst suggests spontaneity and allows for ill-thought-out-ness. An outburst could be overlooked, depending.

No, this was coolly considered, it's what she actually thinks.

That? I have no time for.

bots 23-04-2023 12:35 PM

it was an article published in a newspaper, she can't claim it was a slip of the tongue :laugh:

joeysteele 23-04-2023 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11283408)
Outburst suggests spontaneity and allows for ill-thought-out-ness. An outburst could be overlooked, depending.

No, this was coolly considered, it's what she actually thinks.

That? I have no time for.

Good lord lecturing in English are you now.

The meaning of outburst is.
A sudden release of strong emotion.

What she said was what she feels and therefore is totally wrong since its roots are in her strong emotion.
The outburst also reveals that thinking and emotion.

Do you have a further issue on my words????

If outbursts are offensive no way should they be overlooked and I rarely do overlook outbursts especially on very serious matters.

joeysteele 23-04-2023 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 11283410)
it was an article published in a newspaper, she can't claim it was a slip of the tongue :laugh:

You are right she cannot bots.

This has clearly come from deep inner thinking and feeling.

Crimson Dynamo 23-04-2023 12:58 PM


Oliver_W 23-04-2023 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11283415)
Do you have a further issue on my words????

Well since you asked.

For starters that should be issue with.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11283415)
Good lord lecturing in English are you now.

This should end in a question mark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11283415)
The meaning of outburst is.
A sudden release of strong emotion.

This should be one sentence, across one line.

:joker: :joker: :joker:

joeysteele 23-04-2023 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oliver_W (Post 11283457)
Well since you asked.

For starters that should be issue with.


This should end in a question mark.


This should be one sentence, across one line.

:joker: :joker: :joker:


Suiit yourself Oliver.
Just get on with it since it amuses you so much.

joeysteele 23-04-2023 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11283396)
[Diane Abbott has Labour whip suspended
after 'hateful antisemitic' remarks suggesting
Jews do not face racism
Sunday 23 April 2023 11:40, UK]

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abb...acism-12864141

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65365978

What a Stupid Comment
after Keir Starmer
sorted all this mess



I think it may go Front Page
Monday



I think Starmer may see a further opportunity here now as to Abbott.
She always had the potential to be one of his difficult to handle MPs.

With the content of her statement, this could give him the chance to manoeuvre her out completely now.

Frankly, I think it's way past time that she should stand down now anyhow.
She rarely seems happy with anything and has unsavoury thinking too

Oliver_W 23-04-2023 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11283418)

What else is Sir Kier meant to do? She was dewhipped pretty darn fast.

bots 23-04-2023 03:20 PM

She and Corbyn are 2 peas in a pod, it's hardly surprising

arista 23-04-2023 10:47 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...497481860.jpeg

arista 23-04-2023 10:48 PM

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/l...d8415ee74.jpeg

arista 24-04-2023 09:29 AM

Starmer is going on "This Morning"
ITV1HD
tomorrow Tuesday 24/4/23 10AM Live

arista 25-04-2023 09:04 AM

Starmer Live ITV1HD

arista 25-04-2023 09:08 AM

After talking about the Jewish Labour Problem.

Onto Evil Rape
he is going to update laws
his own daughter is 12.

arista 25-04-2023 09:24 AM

He claims
on the small boats

He said we have to stop the boats
and will work upstream.


So France, is going to suddenly stop these
Smuggler Criminals for tubby Kier?

Crimson Dynamo 25-04-2023 05:34 PM

this is for you starmer you woke plonker


arista 27-04-2023 08:21 AM


joeysteele 27-04-2023 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 11284391)

To be fair to him here and I do criticise him a lot.

His record from becoming leader and following the equalities commission investigation findings, is strong and praiseworthy.

I believe he has no intention of tolerating any even small elements of the vile thing which is antisemitism.

I have no idea whether Abbott should be forgiven.
The forgiveness she needs has to be sought from and given by those she offended iF they felt able to.
It's not forgiveness from Starmer that's relevant.

He's acted quickly and rightly, the process is enacted to investigate the issue as laid down by the Equalities commision directive on antisemitism.

Personally, I think Abbott would be better to stand down now.
She has had horrendous racist attacks on herself from people and even media too.
She just doesn't seem to take on board some very serious issues and realise the importance of how wrong they can be.
Her apology while welcome, came only after the issue was publicised and the fallout afterwards.

I've long held the view that there are times, when saying sorry doesn't then make things right.
For me personally , antisemetism from anyone, no matter who they are is an issue where sorry just doesn't put things right,.

On this I fully support Starmer's stance.

I just wish I could really enthusiastically get behind him on other things.
If he was to adopt the policies he says he is open on but they're not right for the next election.
Then Labour would have a really great programme to offer more than the one he appears to be going to offer.

bots 27-04-2023 08:43 AM

Abbot saying it was a first draft error is just taking the piss. She meant to say exactly what she wrote, she believes exactly what she wrote. There was no error and that is why she should be kicked from the party. It's no coincidence that she had a relationship with Corbyn, they both think the same way and they should both suffer the same fate


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