We should be ashamed as a country that this is happening, how many people have to freeze to death before people wake up and stop being so utterly selfish

do you know a country that does not have a tiny proportion of its population homeless?

This ISN'T a tiny proportion though :facepalm:

The homeless proportion in the UK is approx 1/200, or 0.5%.

That's still too high, but pretty damn tiny.

It's 5 homeless people for every small village with a population of 1000. That's not tiny at all, it's insane.

And also; it doesnt even work that way, there are rarely many (or any) in smaller places, they're clustered in cities which makes the scale even worse in those areas.

When mayor bojo promised to eradicate homelessness in London
In fact it doubled by the time his 2nd term ended

Homelessness shames our country. But it's not like it's only under the Conservatives that we have homeless people. And the fact that many of those homeless people are ex-forces who have been cast onto the scrapheap shames us more. Many of those ex-servicemen and women went to war under Blair... but that's another thread.

I'm looking forward to a time when the hysteria subsides a little and people give this government a chance to ******* up, before they condemn them.

And before I have to explain myself, again... I support both Crisis and the Salvation Army. And while I believe it should be the government's responsibility to end homelessness, until that happens I'm willing to put my hand in my pocket rather than simply complain about how terrible it all is.

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Get away from Politics Actor Hugh
you are Poison

tbf they would be right to be worried if Johnson wasn't making all the right noises so far, Labour City London voted him Mayor twice because of his liberal and international stance, so maybe lets give him some time before making the judgement call

Yes stick it to the Labour voters who deserted the party in their droves and for some reason couldn't find anyone on the ballot paper other than Tory to vote for

5/1000 is the same proportion as as 1/200...

I guess the "small village" thing is used as an illustrative example to make it more shocking, because as you seem to have realised... They're mostlt in cities, not villages.

Look Liam
they are out of the Rain
under that Store Front,


We had Homeless under Blair's New Labour
it a Worldwide problem
Terrible in San Francisco

I just can't fathom how far in denial someone has to be to try to insist that a decade of Tories hasn't made things substantially worse for the homeless, unemployed, disabled and working poor in the UK.

Blaming the "prrrevious Labour governmentttt" worked OK for the first couple of years but its surely going to be a hard sell now!

"Why are things so bad in 2021 Boris?"
"Cos of Labour in 2008"

:umm2:

Unemployment is at record lows

Yes that's why I said it - to point out that most people would find a village of 1000 people having 5 people on the streets a pretty shocking statistic. We're just comfortable ignoring it because it's "hidden" in urban areas, not in the doorway of a suburban co-op, so the average Tory voter can pretend the scale is smaller than it is.

Meaningless when a months full time minimum wage barely covers rent and utilities and millions of employed people rely on Universal Credit to buy food and clothes.

Many of the London homeless/beggars are not from this country, many are old and disabled, they work the junction near where I live, its hard not to be stopped at the lights, and and not give them cash, but a taxi driver told me there are loads on other junctions as well and if he gave to them all he would be begging himself.

There are no UK beggars at all where I live and when I go to London many of those people in tents are not British, same on the tube, the people playing instruments etc are not British. I think many were sold a dream unfortunately, I give food rather than money because I think many are exploited by gangs and sent out to beg, although I was at the junction recently and had no change so gave the guy a fiver, he nearly fell off his stick which he probably doesn't need but I am a sucker at times

Ah, as long as they’re not wet that’s alright then, they definitely won’t freeze to death now!

Yes we’ve always had homelessness and it’s always been a stain on our country, no matter who is in charge, as long as homelessness is allowed to rise like it has done, every leader who does nothing about t should be ashamed, no matter which party they’re from

Thats Fair.

It is a tangled group on the streets
they will have a local council case worker
looking into them.

Its a Hard life on the streets
but its all over the World

I'm not saying it's smaller than it is. It's 0.5% and I'd do nothing to act like it's smaller or bigger.

The PM is up in Blair's Old Constituency
thanking the local team that got more seats
for the Conservatives.

He seems Very Positive/


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cp...46586_de27.jpg


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50790445

I can't watch anything ... my interest is zero, it's not sour grapes it's fear, I don't want to know what's coming next.

Investment
in Railways in the North
is a good way forward,


Give him a chance.

Jeez, I am watching avidly to see what does come next

Same, I’m waiting for the exact moment he ****s up, like when you see someone realise they’re gonna fall and their arms flap, I can’t wait!

What a sad way to be :shrug:

Nothing positive to look forward to :bored:

How do you know ?

History & repetition

Trends suggest that the number of people reported to be seeking help for homelessness has been reasonably stable in the UK since around 2013.

The reasons cited for loss of previous home are broadly consistent across UK countries and are primarily changing relationships or disputes within households.

Estimates for rough sleeping based on street counts suggest numbers are increasing in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, but estimates based on homelessness applications suggest numbers are decreasing in Scotland. Though the most recent figure for England shows a small decrease from 2017 to 2018


Analysts across the Government Statistical Service (GSS) and Northern Ireland Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) are working together to improve the coherence and accessibility of all housing and planning statistics, including homelessness.

There is a wide range of improvements and innovations underway and the challenge is to continue acknowledging the devolved nature of the statistics, and corresponding policy frameworks, while improving coherence where possible to provide a UK picture.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...ess/2005to2018


so lets not use the homeless as a political football because your team did not win?

He speaks of healing and uniting but that means shutting up and bending a knee to the Tories and they can get ****ed. There will be no healing or forgiveness and there will be no silencing of criticism towards Tory MPs and voters.

Tory voters cannot take back what they've done and I will treat every one of them with nothing less than the utter disdain they deserve.

And pray tell us how you will know if someone voted Conservative?

You voted SNP, don't defend the tories.

that does not tell me how you are going to treat every Tory voter with disdain if you dont actually know any?

All the gammon boomer snowflakes!!! Google it!!!


Or something.

Likewise

:hehe:

Great article by Richard Littlejohn:

They wanted a second People's Vote... and they got the one they deserved

This wasn't just a defiant reaffirmation of the EU referendum result, it was a
damning repudiation of those who have spent the past three and a half years
trying to Stop Brexit.

It also served as a timely reminder that there is life outside the Westminster
bubble, that social media is not the real world.

As late as Thursday lunchtime, political commentators were confidently
predicting a hung parliament on the evidence of a handful of photos on
Twitter showing a few dozen young people queueing at polling stations in
London.

Like children chasing a football round a school playground, they all rushed to
follow the herd.

The Corbynistas were crushed. The self-deluding Remain Alliance, which
thought it could bully the British people into reversing the referendum result,
was routed.

This time it was personal. This time they were on the ballot. They had
everything to lose. And lose they did, on a spectacular scale. They didn't just
lose a referendum, they lost their jobs. They had it coming.


Grieve, Gauke, Soubry Loo and the rest were all sent packing. Not a single
one of the turncoat Tory MPs who rebelled against their own government over
Brexit managed to retain their seats.


Nor did any of those who resigned the Labour whip to join Change UK or the
Lib Dems, Chucky Umunna included. What an ignominious downfall for the
man dubbed (by himself, probably) Britain's Barack Obama.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...e-got-one.html

How is that sad? :suspect:

People have developed a talent over countless generations, it's called speech and from it, a bunch of different languages have blossomed into existence.

I've already turned my back on a number of now former friends who have admitted to voting Tory and I'll gladly cast out anyone else who admits the same. I will not be civil to people who vote against my rights.