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jet 07-08-2009 05:15 PM

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For those that deny there is prejudice on this forum about Lisa's sexuality, and therefore against all homosexuals, read the thread
'Lisa: Roughest Ugliest Lesbian I've Ever Seen....' -

....you'll find plenty of homophobic comments in there. And that's just ONE Lisa thread.
Actually, a moron is someone who thinks that just because people hate Lisa and her display of her sexuality (like claiming she can turn any woman gay) that it automatically extends into homophobia.

Moron.
Where did I say that? Nowhere. I am well aware that people can hate Lisa and NOT because of her sexuality. I am also well aware that some people hate her, or hate her more than they otherwise would, BECAUSE of her sexuality. There is proof of that in many threads on this forum.
It's in BOLD as part of your statement.

Go right ahead, twist and contort yourself defending making such an idiotic generalization about the people who hate Lisa. You just dig deeper your own grave.
What are you droning on about? Because I said that there is prejudice on this forum against Lisa, and therefore against all homosexuals by association, means that I think EVERYONE who hates her is homophobic?
Um, no. You seriously need to brush up on your comprehension skills. :rolleyes:
Uhm, methinks you protest too much. And it's you who needs remedial classes on reading comprehension and logic. Evidently, you possess neither.

You wrote "Because I said that there is prejudice on this forum against Lisa, and therefore against all homosexuals by association". That, in and of itself, is a fallacious statement. Prejudice against Lisa does not imply prejudice against all homosexuals.

Like I said, you just dig deeper your own grave in your misguided zeal to defend the indefensible skank named Lisa.
You are confused and not making sense, hon. :shocked:

jet 07-08-2009 05:17 PM

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Keep voting jet, Lisa and David need to be saved, Bea evicted! :spin:
Will do! :thumbs: :thumbs2:

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 05:20 PM

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For those that deny there is prejudice on this forum about Lisa's sexuality, and therefore against all homosexuals, read the thread
'Lisa: Roughest Ugliest Lesbian I've Ever Seen....' -

....you'll find plenty of homophobic comments in there. And that's just ONE Lisa thread.
Actually, a moron is someone who thinks that just because people hate Lisa and her display of her sexuality (like claiming she can turn any woman gay) that it automatically extends into homophobia.

Moron.
Where did I say that? Nowhere. I am well aware that people can hate Lisa and NOT because of her sexuality. I am also well aware that some people hate her, or hate her more than they otherwise would, BECAUSE of her sexuality. There is proof of that in many threads on this forum.
It's in BOLD as part of your statement.

Go right ahead, twist and contort yourself defending making such an idiotic generalization about the people who hate Lisa. You just dig deeper your own grave.
What are you droning on about? Because I said that there is prejudice on this forum against Lisa, and therefore against all homosexuals by association, means that I think EVERYONE who hates her is homophobic?
Um, no. You seriously need to brush up on your comprehension skills. :rolleyes:
Uhm, methinks you protest too much. And it's you who needs remedial classes on reading comprehension and logic. Evidently, you possess neither.

You wrote "Because I said that there is prejudice on this forum against Lisa, and therefore against all homosexuals by association". That, in and of itself, is a fallacious statement. Prejudice against Lisa does not imply prejudice against all homosexuals.

Like I said, you just dig deeper your own grave in your misguided zeal to defend the indefensible skank named Lisa.
You are confused and not making sense, hon. :shocked:
You must be talking to yourself in the mirror. :whistle:

jet 07-08-2009 05:26 PM

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And I will say it again: Lisa is a rough-looking, ugly as hell lesbian.

If you think that's a homophobic statement without knowing whether I am gay or straight clearly shows you to be a fool.
I don't need to know your sexual orientation.
Gay people can hate other gay people.
When that hatred is based on personal characteristics, eg. butchness then that is still homophobia.
Not to nitpick, but no, if I was gay and hating Lisa by calling her gay slurs, then that makes me a self-loathing gay. Homophobia is reserved for straight people who loathe gays.

But to get to the root of the point, I hate Lisa for the bully that she is. Calling her an ugly lesbian is a factual observation I am making. My observation. I think she's ugly and obviously a lesbian. Hence, she's an ugly lesbian, as far as I'm concerned. Do not tell me what my observations should be. Dragging the homophobia card then parading it around just shows your arguments in defending her to be weak. Try again.
So you, and many others call Lisa an 'ugly lesbian'. If you hated Charlie (a gay man) like you do Lisa, what would you call him? Or Bea, as a heterosexual woman?

I'll be interested in your answer.
Thought of an answer yet?

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 05:33 PM

No need to answer diversionary attempts to change the topic. The topic is Lisa. Stick to that skanky lesbian.

I still think Lisa is an ugly lesbian. Deal with it.

jet 07-08-2009 05:50 PM

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No need to answer diversionary attempts to change the topic. The topic is Lisa. Stick to that skanky lesbian.

I still think Lisa is an ugly lesbian. Deal with it.
I didn't think you would answer that.

You deny you are homophobic, yet you use word 'lesbian' as an insult.

MissKittyFantastico 07-08-2009 05:53 PM

It's funny to me how some of the people that proclaim to hate Lisa because she's so vile and nasty etc, are actually using words and acting in a worse way on here than she has ever done in the house.

How people can have some hatred for someone they don't actually know is amazing to me.

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 05:56 PM

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No need to answer diversionary attempts to change the topic. The topic is Lisa. Stick to that skanky lesbian.

I still think Lisa is an ugly lesbian. Deal with it.
I didn't think you would answer that.

You deny you are homophobic, yet you use word 'lesbian' as an insult.
I use lesbian to describe Lisa because she is one. The fact that I choose to call her that is my choice. To ascribe certain negative connotations to the word "lesbian" speaks more about your own prejudices than it does mine.

You got an issue with the word lesbian? Then take it up with a dictionary. Otherwise, you Admin edit.

jet 07-08-2009 06:01 PM

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No need to answer diversionary attempts to change the topic. The topic is Lisa. Stick to that skanky lesbian.

I still think Lisa is an ugly lesbian. Deal with it.
I didn't think you would answer that.

You deny you are homophobic, yet you use word 'lesbian' as an insult.
I use lesbian to describe Lisa because she is one. The fact that I choose to call her that is my choice. To ascribe certain negative connotations to the word "lesbian" speaks more about your own prejudices than it does mine.

You got an issue with the word lesbian? Then take it up with a dictionary. Otherwise, you are no more than a bumbling, blubbering buffoon.
So I ask again, if you hated Bea and though she was ugly, what you call her - A ugly ....? What? If you hated Charlie and thought he was skanky, what would you call him? A skanky......? What?

It's a reasonable question.

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 06:06 PM

No it's not. It's what's called a leading question. Look it up. I have a feeling you don't even know what it means.

Lisa is an ugly lesbian. You are now going through contortions in your desire to show that calling Lisa an ugly lesbian is a homophobic statement. Admin edit. Insults.

supergirthuk 07-08-2009 06:07 PM

That witch engineered a campaign against Halfwit from the moment she realised he had money. He had not done her any harm, other than being mildly annoying or irritating, which he was to most people in the house, but she cruely decided to get all her equally stupid housemate friends to go after him too. She didn't have the honesty to just sit down with Halfwit and talk to him to find some middle ground so they could live harmoniously for the time she is in there. One of the nastiest housemates ever. I'd stop her benefits and kick her into the gutter where she belongs!

supergirthuk 07-08-2009 06:10 PM

Whether she is a lesbian or not doesnt alter just how vile she is.

supergirthuk 07-08-2009 06:14 PM

I would hate her what ever her sexual preference was Straight, Lesbian, Bi, Paedo, Beastiality what ever!

bansheewails 07-08-2009 06:17 PM

I dislike Lisa because she is vulgar, foul mouthed, she thinks everyone else is rubbish, she thinks only her opinion counts, she does nothing but smoke and bitch, she has never, not even once, made me laugh.

I think the reasons above are enough for me to dislike a person. Do not bring sexuality into the equation, because there is no reason to.

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virtuoso88 07-08-2009 06:19 PM

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I dislike Lisa because she is vulgar, foul mouthed, she thinks everyone else is rubbish, she thinks only her opinion counts, she does nothing but smoke and bitch, she has never, not even once, made me laugh.

I think the reasons above are enough for me to dislike a person. Do not bring sexuality into the equation, because there is no reason to.

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Well, the Lisa fans are so desperate and clutching at straws so they have to drag any and all issues they can think of to deflect and distract from the real issue here: Lisa is an evil bi*tch bully.

Twiggy 07-08-2009 06:21 PM

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Your 1st post is this?
Even the people that want Halfwit out acknowledge that Lisa bullied Halfwit
I don't agree.

hennessy 07-08-2009 06:22 PM

I personaly think she's asexual



Asexual nightmare boom boom

Trispen 07-08-2009 06:25 PM

I couldn't give a crap what Lisa's sexuality is, she is a moaning, boring, aggressive, scheming person and I would love her to be voted out. Does anybody really think that someone who sits in the bus stop smoking and moaning constantly is good TV or even constitutes a good/entertaining housemate??? And as for previous comments regarding Bea being a bully I can only see her addressing problems not starting them, I quote from a previous post which no-one has so far disagreed with " I always thought this was called "honesty" and not "bullying."

jet 07-08-2009 06:33 PM

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No it's not. It's what's called a leading question. Look it up. I have a feeling you don't even know what it means.

Lisa is an ugly lesbian. You are now going through contortions in your desire to show that calling Lisa an ugly lesbian is a homophobic statement. Get over it, pathetic Lisa fan.
I'm not going through any contortions. I am asking a simple question, which you are obviously afraid to answer. Why?

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 06:34 PM

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I personaly think she's asexual



Asexual nightmare boom boom
Perhaps hermaphrodite?

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 06:36 PM

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No it's not. It's what's called a leading question. Look it up. I have a feeling you don't even know what it means.

Lisa is an ugly lesbian. You are now going through contortions in your desire to show that calling Lisa an ugly lesbian is a homophobic statement. Get over it, pathetic Lisa fan.
I'm not going through any contortions. I am asking a simple question, which you are obviously afraid to answer. Why?
Yes you are going through contortions. The burden of proof is on you, dearie.

Why don't you answer whether Lisa was bullying Freddie or not in this video?

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...168b3e/play.c4

jet 07-08-2009 06:58 PM

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No it's not. It's what's called a leading question. Look it up. I have a feeling you don't even know what it means.

Lisa is an ugly lesbian. You are now going through contortions in your desire to show that calling Lisa an ugly lesbian is a homophobic statement. Get over it, pathetic Lisa fan.
I'm not going through any contortions. I am asking a simple question, which you are obviously afraid to answer. Why?
Yes you are going through contortions. The burden of proof is on you, dearie.

Why don't you answer whether Lisa was bullying Freddie or not in this video?

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/v...168b3e/play.c4
Of course I'll answer your question. Lisa was very aggressive to Halfwit in that clip, yes. Bullying? I don’t think so. She obviously had had enough of his condescending manner of speaking to people - that is what that was all about. The rest of the HM’s (including Marcus, Siavash etc) didn’t speak up for Halfwit. At that stage MOST of the HM’s disliked him and were nominating him every single week. So yes, maybe she was irritated and annoyed with him, but she went over the top in her reaction. Absolutely.

I've answered your question. Now will you answer mine?

virtuoso88 07-08-2009 07:11 PM

Oh please, you will always be in denial with regards to your precious Gollum, er, Lisa.

Freddie was motivating the remaining housemates to show appreciation to Sophia! Only in a Lisa fan's sick and twisted mind will that scenario be considered as Lisa sticking up to Freddie's condescension.

You're a hopeless case.

h3llb1tch 07-08-2009 07:22 PM

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He had not done her any harm, other than being mildly annoying or irritating, which he was to most people in the house, but she cruely decided to get all her equally stupid housemate friends to go after him too.
What utter claptrap!
He was not mildly annoying or irritating, he was VERY annoying and irritating.

Imagine what it must have been like for those LIVING with him 24/7.

He had this effect on the majority of housemates, he didn't NEED Lisa to turn them against him, they had already come to their own conclusions. No manipulation necessary. He drove Lisa up the wall. She could of been two faced and acted all nicey nice. But that would not have been genuine.

Don't BB viewers like genuine people? Apparently not. Halfwit is not even remotely genuine. His whole "hey dude" act is an attempt to fit in with the "little people."

Clearly, it's working...

Also, please stop banging on about Lisa claiming benefit. I pay my taxes and like to think it is going to people who NEED it. Not well off people like Halfwit who call it "pocket money." Although, he's right, it is peanuts they get...

jet 07-08-2009 07:26 PM

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Oh please, you will always be in denial with regards to your precious Gollum, er, Lisa.

Freddie was motivating the remaining housemates to show appreciation to Sophia! Only in a Lisa fan's sick and twisted mind will that scenario be considered as Lisa sticking up to Freddie's condescension.

You're a hopeless case.
Another diversionary tactic. Are you going to answer my question? You might not have liked my answer, but at least I did you the courtesy OF answering.


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