Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2669632)

I would agree with you if it were not for the fact that I have the ability to read, and judging by what I am seeing, well, there is not a whole lot of arse licking going on in this thread. Meanwhile the hate thread and all associated build up was fucking choc full of it. Mostly because people knew they were going to make the list and were thus playing it down and acting like they wanted to be on it.

Seriously dude, I must be missing something here. I cant see much in the way of arselicking going on. All that's going to happen is groups of friends will vote for each other but that's inevitable and totally fair, after all, I presume they are friends because they like each others posts.

And you know what I meant by 'definitive'. It's the first, big, vote style count to happen. And that's what makes it fun and not at all arse lickery orientated. There is an element of excitement and surprise because everybody is voting, sans afformentioned arse licking, in private and we get to see the placements in the countdown thread which gives it a nice element of suspense which should in turn make it into a cracking read you are more than welcome to ignore.

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2669649)

Oh wait awhile. When the votes come in you wont be able to see anything through the saccharine that's poured over each page in here. The only excitement and surprise will be in gauging the extent of the ingratiating behaviour that'll no doubt follow on from the results.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2669652)

Oh I assumed you were referring to the bad kind of arse licking. You know, the sort that occurs in order to gain votes.

You can call the post-countdown festivities arse licking if you want. I just call it people thanking each other. Big deal. I don't have the time to be that negative nowadays. Let the kids go at it I say. Who gives a fuck.

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2669667)

Because I have a problem with lists of this kind from the get go. I wouldn't want to associate with lists of this nature in real life so why would I accept them on a forum that I've been a member of for quite some time, one in which we're apparently supposed to behave like we normally do and not give a f uck, like you said?

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2669620)

Don't paper over the cracks here; it's still arse liking - you know and I know it. A most hated or controversial thread is fair enough because it's free from the constraints of sickly sweet conformity and there's the chance of some real insight coming across, or possibly real wit. This on the otherhand is just another excuse for a wankfest and I wouldn't call it definitive in the slighest... funny yes, definitive no.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2669673)

You answered your own question. This is not real life, it's a forum. It's just a bit of fun. The person taking this most serious, ironically, is you.

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2669678)

Ha ha, maybe. I just don't like anything false, ingratiating or forced. Leaves me cold.

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2669682)

Like I said I would normally agree with you I just like the nature of the way these thing's are done. There's no pregame arse licking and it's the suspenseful nature of an actual countdown. Now if it were just everyone voting for one single member sans countdown, it would stand a good chance of sucking and would probably go with a whole host of pandering!

Mind you I am also more of a fan of the hate lists myself :devil:.

Originally Posted by 30stone (Post 2669676)

Most hated is acceptable most loved isn't.
Way to to be, Mr Positivity.

What has happened to you recently lol.

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2669710)

Because with most hated it's not a case of people going (pardon the expression) you suck me off and I'll suck you off. It's more honest and group mentality isn't such a deciding factor in the outcome.

Originally Posted by bronaaaa (Post 2669693)

Harder then I thought it would be D:
Missed out a few people :/

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 2669717)

Have you actually seen the most hated chart? Well, hard I know because James deleted it, but it was clearly groups voting against each other in that too.

90% of the whole countdown was just the hard lads versus the pop fanatics.

Originally Posted by setanta (Post 2669743)

The hard lads lol. Love it.

Originally Posted by Rice_square (Post 2669889)

I think he's pissed that he didn't win the most hated.