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arista 16-12-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3999679)
name a single country less "corrupt" than America. Just one.

New Zealand.

lostalex 16-12-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 3999685)
New Zealand.

prove it.

oh that's right you can't, because you don't have a quarter of a million secret leaked documents from the NZ embassy do you?

Shasown 16-12-2010 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 3999679)
name a single country less "corrupt" than America. Just one.

look at a map of the world and stick your finger on any country other than the US.

Representative Rangel, Judge Porteus, The Plame Affair, Special Advisor Rove, The White House email scandal under Bush, Kyle, Foggo, Randy Cunningham, The Yellowcake Forgeries. Waterboarding, Payments to columnists under Bush. The Bush Six, Stevens, Rengi, Abramoff, Enron, Whitewater, Lawyergate, Babbett, Pardongate, Iran Contra, Weinberger, Housing and Urban Development Scandal, Westech, Savings and Loans. and thats just scratching the surface.

Yeah you lot are squeaky *********g clean.

arista 16-12-2010 04:59 PM

He has walked out of the Court House.

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lostalex 16-12-2010 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4000055)
look at a map of the world and stick your finger on any country other than the US.

Representative Rangel, Judge Porteus, The Plame Affair, Special Advisor Rove, The White House email scandal under Bush, Kyle, Foggo, Randy Cunningham, The Yellowcake Forgeries. Waterboarding, Payments to columnists under Bush. The Bush Six, Stevens, Rengi, Abramoff, Enron, Whitewater, Lawyergate, Babbett, Pardongate, Iran Contra, Weinberger, Housing and Urban Development Scandal, Westech, Savings and Loans. and thats just scratching the surface.

Yeah you lot are squeaky *********g clean.


thank you for proving my point... even whn i SPECIFICALLY ask for an example of a country cleaner than the US, you still have nothing to say but about the US, BECAUSE you don't have any dirt on other countries, you only have dirt on us, why?? because we're the only country you care about tearing apart, cause yur a xenophobic, anti-america, jerk.

MOST of the information you use against the US, is information released BY the US and BY Americans... yet you DARE claim that WE are not transparent???

America is the most self-critcal country on the planet. Most of the crp i hear from youguys is crap micheal mooore, an AMERICAN exposed about us. America is the nly country on the plaet to be so self-critical.

Easy target i guess for those looking for a scape-goat. WOW, look, here's a scapegoat, and unlike russia or china, or the EU, they provide all the DATA for us, and we don't have to do any work of our own!! how convenient!.

What other country analyzes itself more than the USA?? none.

arista 16-12-2010 05:11 PM

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg612/sca...=640&ysize=640

Talking to the World Press
a few mins ago.


Free and out on Bail.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...ease-o-007.jpg

lostalex 16-12-2010 05:16 PM

good for him. I hope he doesn't flee trying to escape justice for his sex crimes. Those 2 women deserve to have their day in court just as he has.

Shasown 16-12-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000179)
thank you for proving my point... even whn i SPECIFICALLY ask for an example of a country cleaner than the US, you still have nothing to say but about the US, BECAUSE you don't have any dirt on other countries, you only have dirt on us, why?? because we're the only country you care about tearing apart, cause yur a xenophobic, anti-america, jerk.

MOST of the information you use against the US, is information released BY the US and BY Americans... yet you DARE claim that WE are not transparent???

America is the most self-critcal country on the planet. Most of the crp i hear from youguys is crap micheal mooore, an AMERICAN exposed about us. America is the nly country on the plaet to be so self-critical.

Easy target i guess for those looking for a scape-goat. WOW, look, here's a scapegoat, and unlike russia or china, or the EU, they provide all the DATA for us, and we don't have to do any work of our own!! how convenient!.

What other country analyzes itself more than the USA?? none.

Xenophobic, anti american? Not at all, I quite like Canadians, Mexicans Belizeans Guatemalans, Hondurans Cubans etc etc etc. Fact of the matter is the US is corrupt, more corrupt than most other nations.

Read through that list again numbnuts, think you will see a few examples where prosecutions etc were not forthcoming or investigations were deliberately hampered, swayed or even stopped to prevent the real truth coming out.

Incidentally its not as if the information was released as you infer, more they couldnt cover it up

You make yourselves targets not scapegoats by putting yourselves up on those pedestals.

Too easy really.

Analyzes? You really are fixated with that aint you?

Shasown 16-12-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000220)
good for him. I hope he doesn't flee trying to escape justice for his sex crimes. Those 2 women deserve to have their day in court just as he has.

So good you understand the situation.

He is undergoing extradition proceedings so the Swedish police can question him.

What crimes has he committed?

lostalex 16-12-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4000235)
Xenophobic, anti american? Not at all, I quite like Canadians, Mexicans Belizeans Guatemalans, Hondurans Cubans etc etc etc. Fact of the matter is the US is corrupt, more corrupt than most other nations.

Read through that list again numbnuts, think you will see a few examples where prosecutions etc were not forthcoming or investigations were deliberately hampered, swayed or even stopped to prevent the real truth coming out.

Incidentally its not as if the information was released as you infer, more they couldnt cover it up

You make yourselves targets not scapegoats by putting yourselves up on those pedestals.

Too easy really.

Analyzes? You really are fixated with that aint you?

Orly? you like canadians?? You do know that canadians are larger carbon emitters than americans right? you do know that canadians have more guns per capita than americans right? why don't you take a look at the percentage of first nations (Native Canadian) people in canadian prisons compared to the percentages of white canadians... really? you like Cubans?? so i guess you like a dicatorship that imprisons all forms of political opposition then.. wow, yur a real fan of some **** that i bet you'd be pretty quick to jump on the USA for.

Thank you for proving my point.

Shasown 16-12-2010 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000256)
Orly? you like canadians?? You do know that canadians are larger carbon emitters than americans right? you do know that canadians have more guns per capita than americans right? why don't you take a look at the percentage of first nations (Native Canadian) people in canadian prisons compared to the percentages of white canadians... really? you like Cubans?? so i guess you like a dicatorship that imprisons all forms of political opposition then.. wow, yur a real fan of some **** that i bet you'd be pretty quick to jump on the USA for.

Thank you for proving my point.

Your logic like your facts is inaccurate and unreliable.

lostalex 16-12-2010 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4000276)
Your logic like your facts is inaccurate and unreliable.


google it. i only speak the truth.

Shasown 16-12-2010 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000282)
google it. i only speak the truth.

Yeah?

Course you do, go back a few posts and see what you posted about Assange.

Didnt the US Supreme Court say a person is presumed innocent till guilt is proven?

lostalex 16-12-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4000314)
Yeah?

Course you do, go back a few posts and see what you posted about Assange.

Didnt the US Supreme Court say a person is presumed innocent till guilt is proven?


Ummmm... what do the laws of the USA have to do with a trial in the UK? The US supreme court upholds the Constitution of the United States of America, and the Constitution of the USA only protects US citizens. Not Aussies in UK prisons facing sex crimes charges in Sweden.

arista 16-12-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000220)
good for him. I hope he doesn't flee trying to escape justice for his sex crimes. Those 2 women deserve to have their day in court just as he has.


Of course he will not Flee.


That case in Sweden is not so simple,
infact it was Dropped.


But then the Evil Yanks Contacted Sweden
to get them to be the Yank poodle.

lostalex 16-12-2010 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 4000329)
Of course he will not Flee.


That case in Sweden is not so simple,
infact it was Dropped.


But then the Evil Yanks Contacted Sweden
to get them to be the Yank poodle.

Why is it when you say "yank" it sounds like the equivalent of the 'N" word???
Do you realize how xenophobic you sound??

i think you do.

Shasown 16-12-2010 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000322)
Ummmm... what do the laws of the USA have to do with a trial in the UK? The US supreme court upholds the Constitution of the United States of America, and the Constitution of the USA only protects US citizens. Not Aussies in UK prisons facing sex crimes charges in Sweden.

It isnt anything to do with the Constitution of the US.

Its not a trial in the UK.

And he isnt currently facing any charges, he is wanted for questioning.

As accurate as always.

arista 16-12-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000341)
Why is it when you say "yank" it sounds like the equivalent of the 'N" word???
Do you realize how xenophobic you sound??

i think you do.




No

I have been in America they called my a Limmey.
I call Americans Yanks.
It is no Problem.

arista 16-12-2010 06:26 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/...64_634x308.jpg

He was just Driven away in a Tough Range Rover.

Outside that Court many
said that they fear he will be shot dead be a Hired Hit Man.

lostalex 16-12-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 4000388)
No

I have been in America they called my a Limmey.
I call Americans Yanks.
It is no Problem.


i really can't imagine any american calling you "limey" in the way that you are saying "yank". I think you know exactly what your doing, and i wish you'd stop.

arista 16-12-2010 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000397)
i really can't imagine any american calling you "limey" in the way that you are saying "yank". I think you know exactly what your doing, and i wish you'd stop.


Loads called me it.


The yank word is used by many members
this is a British Site

lostalex 16-12-2010 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 4000387)
It isnt anything to do with the Constitution of the US.

Its not a trial in the UK.

And he isnt currently facing any charges, he is wanted for questioning.

As accurate as always.

my bad, "hearing" in the UK, better??

i'm still waiting to hear yur explaination as to what the US constitution has to do with any of this. you brought it up. you said the US justice system is obligated to presume innocence, and guilt must be proven..... how does any of this have anything to do with the US justice system??

lostalex 16-12-2010 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 4000400)
Loads called me it.


The yank word is used by many members
this is a British Site

yea but none seem to use it in quite the same way you're using it. and you are well aware of the difference. It may be a British site, but the rules of this BRITISH site also require you to be respectful of other members.

arista 16-12-2010 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000408)
yea but none seem to use it in quite the same way you're using it. and you are well aware of the difference. It may be a British site, but the rules of this BRITISH site also require you to be respectful of other members.


Yes I like you.

Shasown 16-12-2010 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000402)
my bad, "hearing" in the UK, better??

i'm still waiting to hear yur explaination as to what the US constitution has to do with any of this. you brought it up. you said the US justice system is obligated to presume innocence, and guilt must be proven..... how does any of this have anything to do with the US justice system??

As I said it isnt a right based in the constitution, its a right passed down by tradition, it originates from English Common Law and has the same standing over there as it does over here. It was a Supreme Court ruling in the 1890's

In fact a lot of European countries have the same ruling, the burden of proof being with the accusor.

In Assange's case complaint were made then withdrawn and later investigations were reinstigated, amusingly enough shortly after he disclosed he intended to publish certain US documents, I suppose that could be coincidence, eh?

The Swedish police wanted to speak to him over the allegations, he volunteered to surrender himself to them for questioning provided they disclosed all pertinent information they had in advance so he would be able to defend himself against the allegations.

The Swedish Police refused to do that and issued a European Arrest Warrant for his extradition to Sweden, he surrendered to the British Police before any sort of arrest warrant was issued in the UK. Hardly the actions of a guilty man.

Yet you insist he has committed crimes. What proof are you privy to the rest of us are not?

Interestingly enough Sweden hasnt as yet charged Mr Assange with anything and as such the arrest warrant issued isnt worth the paper it was printed on. The European arrest warrant should, by law, be used only to prosecute or to enforce a sentence. Serious though the allegations may be, there is no basis to extradite Mr Assange, unless for the purposes of conducting a criminal prosecution.

The Swedish Prosecution Service through the government has now made formal extradition application so he can be interviewed.

A hammer versus nut situation really when the Swedish police could simply ask the British police to interview him and take a statement, or they could send Swedish police over to interview him, and then determine whether to charge him.

So who or what are pulling the strings of the Swedish?




Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4000408)
yea but none seem to use it in quite the same way you're using it. and you are well aware of the difference. It may be a British site, but the rules of this BRITISH site also require you to be respectful of other members.

Respect is a two way street.


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