Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4906366)

She was obviously in total shock on the night and it was most likely an instant buzzkill for her. All dancing away and Denise sits behind her and does that, and as soon as she gets up she pretends she's going to do it again. I think she was highly annoyed and thinking what brings a person to do that. They were rightly still annoyed in the morning and she deserved an apology or explanation from Denise. To act as if nothing has happened is like a slap in the face.

Originally Posted by Mac1978 (Post 4906357)

Thanks for your welcome Wong and Inone. These forums are usually a bit pointless as I think most people won't really change their mind. But it's always nice to see that there are some others that see the world as you do.

What I slightly cringe at, is the idea that the twins will be ejected to a howling mob, and subjected to questioning along the lines of 'Why did you over-react?' I mean their bound to go home thinking that Britain (and by extension us Irish that watch) has a very strange value system.

I've had the good fortune to travel all over America. And I hate teh Anti-yank crap that's so prevalent all over Europe. By and large, Americans would put all of us to shame with their manners. I was at a baseball game in Chicago a few years ago. When the opposition stepped on the mound I was fascinated not to hear evn one single word of abuse. For the whole of the game I never Iheard the F word (and was very careful not to use it myself). It was a complete family day out. Parents and kids all over the gaff. Beer sold at the stadium, yet I didn't see anybody drunk. When would you see that on the British Isles?

Say what you like about the yanks - they know how to behave themselves. We've all lost the plot. And when people try to defend loutish behaviour as a joke, it makes me despair all the more.

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4906383)

I understand perfectly where you're coming from but that last sentence is where our opinions divide. I can see we're on the same page with everything until the BIB. lol

IMO they are not as annoyed as they're making out and are knowingly continuing the drama for the sake of drama.

If I believed for a second Karissa was genuine in her upset then I'd completely agree.

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4906394)

Fair enough lol we'll have to agree to disagree on that one then

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 4905914)

:worship: They could put me on the rack and stick burning matches down my finger nails and I still wouldnt apologise to the pair of jumped up *****s

Originally Posted by InOne (Post 4905915)

So you call drunkenly slobbering all over her and telling her she will forgive her an apology? :conf:

Originally Posted by 08marsh (Post 4906349)

Well, that's obviously one of Denise's many issues but also shows she didn't mean any malice behind it.

But, I have a very hard time believing Karissa is as offended as she's making out. That's probably the reason I have the opinion I do because the way she acted in the diary room and in tonight's highlights.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4906684)

Thank goodness then that not everyone has the same view as you. BB certainly did not feel her behaviour was acceptable - either to the housemate or the viewer. I happen to agree with them on this one.



That was less to do with a genuine apology at the time and more to do with Denise thinking she could get away with it, with her constant insistence "You'll forgive me in the morning". Really? Denise needs to learn not to assume she knows people in that house well enough to know what they will do or not (as she pointed out her very self to Nicola).

Originally Posted by JH95 (Post 4906691)

The first time she said 'You will forgive me tomorrow' was a question. Krisstina (I think) then replied 'Yeah, I will forgive you tomorrow but I'm pissed right now' to which Denise said 'ok, you'll forgive me tomorrow'. She didn't just assume she would be forgiven, she was asking a question.

Originally Posted by Semtex (Post 4906694)

If Denise had done that to me she'd have needed another trip to the dentist.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4906697)

I agree. She thinks it's 'all about her'. It's okay for her to think it was just a bit of fun, to hell what anyone else thought.

It's okay for her to bleat on that 'people just don't get me', when the truth is: she doesn't 'get other people'.

It's been going on since week 1 when she said to Michael, "Why don't you ask me about my life, about me".

It's about me, me, me with Denise.

Unfortunately I lived and grew up with someone who was far far worse than Denise - and believe me - alcoholics are the most selfish, self absorbed people in the world who blithely stumble through life not realising the havoc they wreck along the way - and they are experts on deflection and in rounding up pity, all the while focusing on themselves and how they feel only.

Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 4906686)

It matters not if there was no malice behind it. Denise's behaviour was unacceptable. That's the crux of it. It was unacceptable - as it has been throughout the show - and the level of unacceptable behaviour from her is increasing with every passing day.

Originally Posted by Daviemacscot (Post 4905995)

I have never seen such a self righteous pair of bitches in my life. Beauty comes from within and those two bimbos are deluded to think everyone "has a crush" on them or finds them attractive. They are ugly, ugly people. Go Denise and Frankie for demonstrating UK realism. BB needs to stop letting the Americans in the house, they have a totally warped sense of reality!!

Originally Posted by Daviemacscot (Post 4906084)

Heff has probably employed a team of telephonists to continuously phone in for "team America" and boost their careers. Plain and simple the ONLY way they could win this after the way they have made it clear this is a business venture and nothing more. They have made great viewing, no doubt. But they surely can't be allowed to win by the British public?!

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4906864)

Denise as nothing to apologize for, it's all the alcohol's fault, obviously

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 4906864)

Denise as nothing to apologize for, it's all the alcohol's fault, obviously

Originally Posted by Semtex (Post 4906747)

Don't fall out 08 & pyramid, I'm a mostly lurking FM.
Both of you, I can understand the perspective.
Because your both intelligent and passionate, but objective.
Not blindly following a certain HM just because, I hate that.

Originally Posted by Semtex (Post 4906747)

Don't fall out 08 & pyramid, I'm a mostly lurking FM.
Both of you, I can understand the perspective.
Because your both intelligent and passionate, but objective.
Not blindly following a certain HM just because, I hate that.

Originally Posted by tintedshadow (Post 4909767)

find it funny tbh a bunch of 20 or possibly younger members on here bashing a 50 something woman who likes a drink,shes far from a alci shes a grown woman she can drink what she wants without kids on here bitching when i garauntee most of you will be out on the lash on the weekend acting alot worst.. find it strange how people turn in to prudes when they watch big brother, suddenly people have to be whiter than white.. some strange judgemental people on this forum

Originally Posted by tintedshadow (Post 4909767)

find it funny tbh a bunch of 20 or possibly younger members on here bashing a 50 something woman who likes a drink,shes far from a alci shes a grown woman she can drink what she wants without kids on here bitching when i garauntee most of you will be out on the lash on the weekend acting alot worst.. find it strange how people turn in to prudes when they watch big brother, suddenly people have to be whiter than white.. some strange judgemental people on this forum

Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 4909806)

Who's saying she can't get sh!tfaced? It's because she turns into a dick when she's had a drink that's the problem. She gets in peoples faces, she makes threats, she exposes people.

The fact that she's the catalyst for most of the rows in the house says it all

For the record, i do get sh!tfaced sometimes but i'm not a 'bad drunk' causing drama, like Denise.