Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 5970855)

no, because a scientific experiment doesn't require belief. It doesn't matter whether or not you believe in gravity, i can still watch an apple fall from a tree and see gravity. whether i believe in gravity or not, i can still see it in a scientific experiment over and over and over.

I can believe that the apple will fly up to heaven as hard as i want to believe, but it won't change the fact that apples will fall to the ground.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 5970856)

..that's not really a very good analogy though Alex..I'm not talking about something that can be 'seen' in terms of an apple falling downwards...so someone can argue that gravity doesn't exist but that apple will still fall downwards...

..anyway, there is one thing for certain here...we have a timezone difference and I have to get ready for work now..(I think I'm probably already late lol..)..so you have a great day/evening/night, Alex....

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 5970700)

Some people are way more perceptive than others, they can read your character and personality pretty quickly from all sorts of tell tale signs.....by listening , by observing their body language, tone of voice, eyes, expressions, lines in your hands etc etc those people that tend to be more observant and patient tend to read people better.....if theres no such thing as spirituality or joy then why the heck does the world need music and love? theres way more to life than the limited predictable narrow minded views of some people. but I draw the line at taking fortune tellers too seriously. I treat it as a bit of fun. I believe we choose our own destinies.